#295 Crossing the Streams Trusts No One (Bonus Ep84) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

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Jeff Dwoskin 0:30

Hey, oh, it is I Jeff Dwoskin, your host of classic conversations and your guide through this bonus episode of crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams is where we answer the universal question. What should I be binge watching next? I just watched something. And now I gotta watch something else. Well, you've come to the right place because we have over 133 hours of binge watching suggestions on our YouTube channel. But you're in luck because we're about to beam the RE segments from three of those shows right into your ears are right now. And you don't even have to go anywhere. That's right. What is crossing the streams is myself and my co hosts and gas sharing shows that we think you should be binge watching sometimes avoiding in this episode from Live episode 69 Trust No One Live episode 94 The Goldbergs and live episode 100 violent night for all you looking for a Christmas selection. Let's kick things off with trust no one from Live episode 69. Ron Libet. Take it away.

Bob Phillips 1:35

deep and dark this week. Trust

Jeff Dwoskin 1:39

no one. All right. For the crypto King. I will say I watched this as well.

Ron Lippitt 1:45

Did you did you fit it? You finished it right?

Jeff Dwoskin 1:47

Yes, I'm very specific review that I will get right after yours.

Ron Lippitt 1:51

How many of you guys to mess around with crypto? Have you guys played around with it? I mean,

Bob Phillips 1:56

I've won and lost a little bit through Venmo

Ron Lippitt 1:58

I dabble. I dabble in it. I've not done that when he's guy that is committed any substantial portion of my mother, but I'm having fun with it. And and you know, we'll just say there is an element of crypto that you're sending money to these exchanges you've never heard of before. And you don't know where the money's going you don't know who's seeing it, you don't know if it's real, your money goes and that's you see it leave your bank account, which you know, all you really see if you think about is just a representation of how many coins you might have on some kind of exchange. And the rest is frankly just left to trust.

Jeff Dwoskin 2:30

You mean like the banks and stock market

Ron Lippitt 2:32

banks and the stock? Well,

Jeff Dwoskin 2:37

there's Baby Baby connection.

Ron Lippitt 2:40

You know, it was only a matter of time until a story like this was going to come up where a major crypto trading platform just disintegrates before your eyes, and all the money is gone and wrapped around. This is the story that's profiled in the Netflix documentary trust no one thought for the crypto King. This gentleman His name is Jerry cotton. He is a Canadian who ran there at the time the largest cryptocurrency platform in Canada. And it was a thriving business for the longest time until the day died. And he died get this with the electronic keys dying with him to the entire plant. Ah, so depending on who is giving you the profile is anywhere from between 160 and $250 million in crypto assets gone it within moments. And his wife has no idea how he ran the business has no idea how to get into his computer can't get to the keys. His business partner is is discovered to be a slime ball with a pest and other types of crimes of malfeasance and other things. He can't apparently get into the computer or doesn't know where the keys are, and the guy's dead. And that's where the stories should end. Except a number of different folks who lost their money get together and become kind of pseudo sleuths themselves to propose an alternative possibility. And that is the guy's not dead. The guy fake faked his own death. And he is on a beach somewhere with $200 million of their money. And the wife was in on it and business partner was in on it. And there's no doubt and you know, through a series of things that are not all that coincidental. They just absolutely believe this guy never did die. And that's where the story really begins. And I wish I would love to be able to tell you and Jeff I'm interested in your opinion. I would love to be able to tell you this is the setup to a really thought provoking really interesting documentary. But what ends up happening in this in the production of the documentary despite the fact they they got so much good tree mature Real to work from is that they leave the health of this of this production to these really poorly produced conversations with these amateurs trying to get to the bottom of of what's going on, in this case, a lot of conversations that are brought to the surface through Reddit, a lot of text texts between the people that lost their money, there's no real hard, you know, journalism going on with this.

Bob Phillips 5:28

How did people lose their money in this? I thought this guy, whether he's dead or not, really, how did he take advantage of

Ron Lippitt 5:37

one of the cases that they were particularly that was one of the more compelling aspects of it was this guy profiled about he was trading money and wanted to avoid a tax element of it. So he used the platform that this guy ran just for the briefest of moments, he put his cash into the platform, and then was going to pull up with Bitcoin out of platform all in one transaction, and put his cash into the platform, and then started clicking, clicking clicking where $100,000 Right $400,000 And, and eat nothing coming out of it. And it keeps getting, you know, Windows coming up saying, you know, that this is still being processed. And this is we

Bob Phillips 6:23

will let you know, when we when we you know, you know what this reminds me of? I'm sorry to interrupt but this, this, this, this thing that this vision I have in my head, is that scene in Ghost, where Tony Goldwyn is trying to access he's trying to get that money out. And, and Patrick Swayze, as the ghosts behind him gone. And ain't there, dude.

Ron Lippitt 6:42

Yeah, so I'm here to tell you, I'm disappointed in the documentary. It's an it's a super interesting story. And that's my disappointment is they took something that I think that was really, really interesting. And they didn't do enough with it once they got into the harder journalism. Finally, towards the end of the of the documentary, what are these investigative journalists? What did go to where this guy supposedly died, and actually figured out the actual hospital and the doctor that cared for him. And as you know, I don't think it's wrecking anything did determine, actually, in fact, the guy did die. But the money's still gone. And the wife is still around. And seemingly, they're not sure what's going on with her whether she has access to the money or not, because she's not talking. And the slimy business partner still around. It just doesn't, it just doesn't come fully around to giving you a sense of the caper. And that's what you really want throughout the day. You want to capture it. Go ahead. I'll pause here. Because Jeff saw it. I'm interested in his opinion. So

Jeff Dwoskin 7:48

this would have been my review. Had you not seen it? I would have been like, hi, I saw trust no one the hunt for the crypto King? It could have been an email. Yeah, that's my entire review. Netflix has a now pattern of taking non stories and turning them into an hour and 3040 minute story. Where at the very end, the last five minutes you realize oh, there really was no story. That's right. I just dragged me along for an hour 45 minutes

Ron Lippitt 8:23

Jeff is entirely that

Bob Phillips 8:24

is the that is the what do you what do you want to call it? The the end result of the idiom that content is king, which is say keep providing content? We don't give a shit where it goes. Just keep providing us with?

Jeff Dwoskin 8:39

Do you remember? Do you remember shows like dancing? Yes. Do you remember? So? We'll get to that we'll get there. Do you remember? Do you remember shows? Like that's incredible or just anything? New news, right? Even a news? No. This is only our search up. This is only good for five minutes? Yeah, there's gonna be a segment like this like Unsolved Mysteries where they do a 10 minute thing or you know that the pattern of events here is that you realize all this was was just a Ponzi scheme was just just they just screwed the guy it's this has nothing to do with Bitcoin. This has really nothing to do with crypto, except this is how this guy screwed these people was happened to be through that media. I was gonna say it's headline reading, right? Doing Bernie Madoff hour. 45 minutes. We're all they do is show you cash. Yep. is going on here. What's going on? Moving cash around. Like do you remember? Do you remember the vanishing of the Cecil Hotel with the Elisa Lam? The girl that went there she was in then she disappears and Shinzo watertank Oh, yeah, that was that one. And this does a real disservice to people who are actually detectives, right? These people. You can't Go online and solve a murder. I'm sorry, you just you can't I don't care what you think certain things you can't do. And they tried to make it seem like these these website warriors, website detectors are valid in any way. And they're not they make it worse actually.

Ron Lippitt 10:16

Well, let me I know I'm running out of time, but I just let me just say one last thing. And that is this that, you know, when the the Bernie Madoff comparison is a good one, right? But here's the thing is, like, I'm not a hedge fund guy, I was never gonna be part of a hedge fund. I'm not that rich and never gonna be that rich. It didn't. It was an interesting keeper. But it didn't really, it didn't really resonate with me personally. Whereas the crypto thing, it's so many people are just dabbling in crypto. And we're all asking ourselves the same thing. Is it really safe? Are these exchanges actually safe? Are they you know, are we ever going to see any? Any of this money? Really? I mean, you can't help but ask that if you dabble at all. And so just on that basis alone, I thought the documentary was going to was going to answer that question for us. And it didn't at all, Jeff, exactly. To your point. It really just is a bad story of a bad dude who just stole everybody's money. And that's and that's it. And

Bob Phillips 11:10

crypto was the backdrop. It had nothing to do it was just a sexy word to throw around. That's exactly. Well,

Tony Berardo 11:16

and not to drag this on. But there's a documentary also called Bad vegan, which is pretty good. Yeah, I've heard it's called Bad vegan, and she owned a vegan restaurant. The rest of it has nothing to do with it. But you know, it was really good. And except, yeah, so, I mean, you know, that's the trend now, man, you know what I mean? Like, click it. So every time I flex,

Howard Rosner 11:43

every time I think about Bitcoin, it reminds me of the scene where DiCaprio and Wolf of Wall Street is doing selling the penny stock. And he's talking about air harrow time. They're doing cutting edge technology and they flash and there's a little sign on their garage. That's cutting edge technology. Yeah.

Jeff Dwoskin 12:05

All right, that was trust. Now one if you're interested in interesting story, definitely check it out. But now it's a little bloated. In the story, you are the review, you know. All right. Up next, Christine Blackburn, friend of the show host of story worthy and my life in three songs joins us to talk about The Goldbergs on Live episode 94 Take it away, Christine. All right, let's cover the Goldberg way. Yay,

Christine Blackburn 12:31

the Goldberg sistine, you know, I've been a fan of The Goldbergs since it started, which is back in 2013. So it's been on the air for quite a while it just got renewed for its 10th season. And it just started about three weeks ago, the 10th season, but the first say five or six seasons specifically, you know, we're just really, really good very, very clean comedy in terms of not clean. I don't mean clean, clean, but more like clean like modern family just shot perfectly great writers, great directors, just a quality show. And you know, having like George Segal was on it and Wendy McLendon Covey who's amazing. And Jeff Garlin, it was just a really good cast and it was based off of it is based off of Adam Goldman. Adam Goldman. Yeah, right. Yeah. And Goldberg thank you this mic. My kid just said something. It is after Adam Goldberger, based on you know, his life growing up in Philadelphia, and Jewish family. The only thing different in the series is I think that there's a while there is there's two boys and one girl and then the actual family and they're all three boys. Anyway, the point is Wendy McLendon Covey, she's the anchor, right? I mean, she is just such a wonderful actress. You guys know her from Reno, 911. And bridesmaids, you know, it's just a really well written show. And because I grew up in the 80s, obviously, I find it extremely funny. You know, it's as if you were watching The Wonder Years, and you're in your 70s, or whatever that era, you know, that era was from the 60s. So I guess now those folks are in nurse, whatever the point is, you know, it's narrated by Patton, Oswald, and he plays the youngest kid, Adam Goldberg. And it's just really, it's really smart. Back to front, and then in a lot of the earlier seasons, it really did have a lot of even heart to it, if you can imagine. Have you heard of that? Jeff Dwoskin Hart, have you heard of that?

Jeff Dwoskin 14:29

I've heard of heart.

Christine Blackburn 14:31

Not the band, but I mean, you know, like, like, XRT. Like, you'd actually watch it with your kid and be like, you know, why, you know, like the right song or whatever. And it's very well thought out, and so, it's been great. But then last year, I'm sure you guys heard that Jeff Garlin you know, one of the main cast members was fired, you know, for being a jackass to his cast mates essentially, not his classmates but for people on set. And so he would just be very personal and mean to people like just like, like pas you know, or like a lighting guy, or this one woman specifically for some reason he didn't like her and he was just, you know, really off color humor like not funny and not like ever ingest just like a mean dude, you know. So you know, it's kind of like one of those things that went down into PR and, and they just fired him. And I really admired that. I'll be honest with you, because yeah, I've been on set myself not in a sitcom. But I've been on set and yeah, one bad apple with one person with a bad attitude, or one person who's just trying to rip people down or just who's mean can really screw up everybody. And I think that that's basically what he did for a long time. And when that was going on, I felt I felt bad for Wendy because I know Wendy not real well, but I've known her for several years. And I know she's trying to do a really good thing there along with Troy genteel, who plays one of her sons and Shawn Cimbrone, who plays Adam Goldberg character anyway. So basically, the point is, he gets fired. Okay, great. Now here we come back anyway seen season 10 They got picked up anyway, which was great, great, but now they gotta start. So what's gonna happen? Right, so you know, here's spoiler alert, you know, they basically, they basically just fast forward an entire year, or like nine months and say that Murray died, you know, but there was so like, oh, you know, I still can't take off this shirt because it reminds me of, you know, of dad or whatever. I don't know. I don't know. So they tried to quickly fill the holes in and say that he passed on and so but they only did it like three or four sentences and then boom, he's gone. And he's just gone. So that was a little odd. But everybody knew what happened. And really, we didn't care because he didn't really add much to the show honestly, wasn't even that great of a character. But anyway, so now we start season 10 There's been about four or five on I don't know, man, it's a little tricky, the seasons getting a little rocky, but my point is, I'm a big fan. I adore Wendy McLendon Covey and she should definitely be up for an Emmy. If not win an Emmy. Even though Jeff Garlin got kicked off, and then the guy who played her father George Segal passed away. You know, I still think even with all of those difficulties, they still are trying to hold it together. And so now you know, like I said, the dad is gone. And now one of one of the moms children. You know, the girl Erica is having a baby. She had a baby anyway, it just they moved ahead very quickly in time, which is okay, but they better pick it up. That's my point. No, I'm kidding. It's a great show. Do you guys watch it?

Jeff Dwoskin 17:47

I haven't watched it. I started I watched it a little bit because I had Mindy Sterling on my show. So I love her. Yeah, that was cherry picking some episodes. And I have a question for you. Yeah, do J Zack or Larry, do you watch The Goldbergs? I have not, I'm sorry. But

Christine Blackburn 18:03

if you have kids, it's a really good show to watch with your kids. My kids are 30 and 27. So that's even more perfect.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:12

I'm, I'm Jewish and the shows I watched. We're very we're very heavy Jewish, which I loved. Right? Yeah, that does that play? Well, for the non Jews? You

Christine Blackburn 18:21

think it shouldn't matter? I mean, it's humorous humor, Mindy Sterling, because like I said, there's been a shake up with a cast. She's been on more and more actually. And I think she might even be considered a main character now. She's a great actress, and really talented. So I heard her on your show, Jeff. Really good was super good.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:42

Thank you. Thank you. So it's impressive. Just so I mean, how many shows make it 10 seasons? Right? I

Christine Blackburn 18:49

mean, more. And I mean, it's it's so wonderful. Definitely

Jeff Dwoskin 18:53

puts it into a category all it sound. That's awesome. All right, so a full ladies, get on it. I'm all over as soon as we get off here. I'm fired it up. You don't know what Hanukkah is after watching The Goldbergs? I know. I know what guilt is I played? You played your idol. Twice. Even Jews don't pledge right all the guilt so I had to play the dreidel. The

Christine Blackburn 19:21

other thing that's interesting about The Goldbergs is you know, it's takes place in Philadelphia. So they do a lot of references, you know, while I was and some of the department stores the time like Gimbels and horns and that's pretty funny to go over stuff like that. It's fun. It's kind of fun.

Jeff Dwoskin 19:41

All right, check out The Goldbergs all 10 seasons are now available. Thank you Christine. Now we have one last holiday treat for you. McMahon hadden, frequent guests and friend of the show joins us to talk about violent night this is from Live episode 100 How how how take it away MC let's go all Sansa with violent Nice.

Speaker 1 20:09

Wow. Oh yeah. When I tell you if you're looking for an insane absurd time with a little Christmas to it, you need to check out violent night David harbor stepping up putting the code on after Tim Allen died I think I think that's yeah No I actually really enjoyed this movie it is I knew going into it it's going to be pure absurdity you know, violent night Come on. So city setting into it and watching it I was like alright, I'm just gonna take this to the violence that it is and that's it and I came out happy in the end. I'll tell you that much. Story is not great. Acting is very all over the place.

Bob Phillips 20:48

Beverly D'Angelo sucks. Doesn't she

sucks. I mean, she's really bad at this, but the movie is good. Go ahead. Sorry.

Mick Manhattan 21:01

I I'm not gonna disagree. She really laid it on thick with all bitchiness to her character. But you know, whatever. I mean, everybody kind of sucked in that in that room right there. David harbor was the only one and the little girl were the only ones that seem to really put it together. But ya know, I love the movie. I thought it was great. I watched it twice now. Not three times. I will check my criticism. Probably later this evening with the third watch did streaming yet? Yeah, it's you can rent it was Casey with you. Casey was not with me. Okay. I thought it was

Jeff Dwoskin 21:35

a die hard on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 21:37

Yeah, he gets stuck. He gets stuck in a house like this rich people's house to drop off the presents and it gets overtaken John Leguizamo plays like basically Hans Gruber with his whole team, they show up to steal money in the house, like 300 million or something like that. Yeah. So they never

Jeff Dwoskin 21:56

understand though the motivation of the criminals.

Speaker 1 22:00

Money by cartel, they set it up pretty good. I gotta say this beard off. Like, try it to get out of your character for a minute.

Mick Manhattan 22:11

Yeah, put it down here. I got a mustache. I can make this work. So it really starts off pretty good. Like they get rid of the reindeer. So he's stuck there. He's stuck in a house. And he's kind of magic list at the moment that he's losing his spirit. But through it, it becomes sort of like a home alone type of situation to just made a lot more fun than just a diehard element. Is

Jeff Dwoskin 22:30

it a Christmas movie? Of course. Everyone argues Yeah, I

Bob Phillips 22:36

would say absolutely.

Unknown Speaker 22:36

It's Santa Fe.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:41

You so you love this movie to Bob.

Bob Phillips 22:42

I loved it. I and Mick I felt the same way. Just it was going to be an hour and a half or two hours of absurdity. And it was, but what I didn't think of was and I'm not going to say what it is. But his origin. Where Santa came from that scene was like, what that would come from, and it made perfect sense. In the end.

Speaker 1 23:04

I love I also loved it too, because I'm like, that would be a great element to Santa. And a big spoiler for a movie like this.

Bob Phillips 23:13

I don't know. I just thought it was cool. I love that part of

Unknown Speaker 23:16

the movie. Yeah, I'd actually want to say what it was. It doesn't you know, it

Bob Phillips 23:19

doesn't explain anything that happens. You know, it's just a more it's almost like it's like a 32nd scene, isn't it? Yeah, so

Speaker 1 23:25

basically, I'll spoil it. Spoiler alert, lose all your views right now. But so he's a Viking he was a Viking. He was like Nicolas the red or something like that. And they don't really explain how he became Santa Claus. But like, that's where he started and that's where his violence comes from.

Bob Phillips 23:41

Yeah, he's like Thor. He's got that sculpt.

Jeff Dwoskin 23:47

All right. Well, sounds good. I don't think Jack be watching this with his wife. But I do you want to watch this movie? This movie. Looks great. I love I love David arbour.

Bob Phillips 23:58

He's great in this

Jeff Dwoskin 24:03

all right, violent night looks like a holiday winner. Do you got that? The Goldbergs and 5050 and trust no one that's up to you. But either way you got a lot of homework. I'm gonna let you go. Go hop on the couch, find your cozy spot, grab your remote cross your own streams, and I will see you next time.

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