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#153 Operation Crossing The Streams (Bonus Ep25) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

Need TV binge suggestions? You’ve come to the right place. We’ve got you covered.

In this bonus episode we discuss a few great binge suggestions:

  • Operation Varsity Blues (from live ep 16)
  • This is Us (from live ep 67)
  • Bikram: Yogi, Guru, Predator (from live ep 68)

Crossing the Streams originated on this podcast in episodes 8 and 15. My idea was to record friends freely discussing TV shows (and movies) they binge on one of the many, many streaming services we all subscribe to.

Jeff Dwoskin is joined by Howard Rosner, Ron Lippitt, Bob Philips, and Sal Demilio are your co-hosts and we’re joined weekly by special guests.

The assignment? We each come to the show with a TV binge suggestion. It might be a series, movie, or documentary but we’ll give you the scoop so you can decide for yourself whether or not to dive in.

Each segment is pulled from a show and shared as is in all its LIVE goodness. Full past live episodes: https://www.youtube.com/c/thejeffdwoskinshow/null

Also, you can join us live every week at 9:30 PM ET on YouTube  

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CTS Announcer 0:01

Looking for your next TV show or movie to binge? Well buckle up, grab the remote and settle into your couch for this special edition of crossing the streams. We're here to help you tune in and get the most out of those 50 monthly streaming channels you're currently paying for. So without any further ado, here's your host of crossing the streams. Jeff Dwoskin.

Jeff Dwoskin 0:30

Oh, it is Hi, Jeff Dwoskin your host from classic conversations welcoming you to a bonus episode in the feed where we feature best of segments from our live show crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams? It answers a universal question. What should I be binge watching next? I just finished something and now I need something else we hear Yeah. And that's why we're here. Head over to our YouTube channel. Follow us there. You'll get notified you can watch us live every Wednesday 9:30pm Eastern time. You can comment along as we review TV series and movies that you can binge watch on one of the million services you probably are paying for right now on YouTube right now is over 80 hours of TV binge watching suggestions. You can watch whole episodes of crossing the streams. This bonus episodes pulled segments from three various shows. We just go right deep right into it. Today. We're talking about Vic rom Yogi guru predator. This is us and operation varsity blues. The conversations are fine. It's like if you're hanging out with your friends and talking at a party or at work or dinner. You know, it's that kind of chatter. We're not experts. We just spend a lot of time watching TV and love talking about it. So we're here to share with you. Let's get right into it, shall we? Let's kick it off with Vikram yogi. Guru predator. Ron live is going to take us through this show on Netflix. Take it away, Ron. You know what? I want to jump right into that one. Let's talk about bircham Yogi guru predator tideway. Lay. Let's

Ron Lippitt 2:08

let me let me take it first off it is legitimately it's it's become bankrupt, right? So, so I don't imagine you guys are heavy yoga practitioners. I don't wanna make any judgments or any generalizations. But you guys taking yoga before

Jeff Horste 2:23

I have taken it? Yes, I did it once. Yeah, suddenly escorted out

Ron Lippitt 2:27

before COVID. I actually started getting into it. Now I'm going to talk a little bit about Bikram because Bikram does represent a very specific channel within the yoga universe. But I think that you know that the yoga world is so developed at this point, it's so ingrained in in Western culture, and particularly American culture, that the very idea that yoga wasn't even around in the 70s until this guy, that grim Choudry, who I'm going to talk about, brought it to our shores to Hollywood, California back in the 70s. But it just seems so odd to me today to the idea that we didn't have yoga before that because it's everywhere. Now you can go to any shopping mall, any area of the country where they don't, it's out yoga, but I'll tell you what they're not touting they're not touting Bikram Yoga because now the word big room, which I always thought in my pea sized brain just meant hot and I think a lot of people when they hear the term Bikram yoga assume that means hot yoga, no becomes the guy's name and Bikram. Choudhry is the guy as I said it started in Hollywood, California in the mid mid 70s. And so let me just tell you a little bit about this, this dude came to the United States as a guru of a certain style of yoga that came from a dude in India and NBC Ghosh and he essentially stole all of VC Gosha has developed yoga training which at the time was considered to be extreme and kind of fringe type of lifestyle stuff and brought it brought it here and packaged it and that's what this guy was good at. He was good at packaging these things up for American you know, Western audiences and what he found was kind of a perfect storm in LA leave it to La because there's all these people that are willing to look for that next great lifestyle shift to that next great opportunity to find some lifestyle advantage and they found in this guy and so he created this the style of yoga that was in 41 degrees Celsius rooms, which I always just was Celsius I double it and add 30 Right 41 makes 82 makes 112 112 degrees right that's that's a friggin hot like I don't know if you've done many things and under degree plus weather for much longer than a couple minutes but but these are hour long or 90 minute long sessions and this guy is killing you. And not only is he killing you, but he's ripping on you like not just physically like he's telling you what a fat so you are he's telling you what a loser you are. He's telling you that you you came from nothing you're going to If nothing, everything that that you bring to this room brings everybody down and you're not leaving this room until you become somebody new and then he would bend you into position that would cause injury and then he would stand on top of your back while you're in some type of weird prone position just to prove that he could. And this thing

Jeff Dwoskin 5:18

sounds like family dinner at the lipids.

Ron Lippitt 5:21

This thing's catchy God, people are like there. Give me more. Tell us more about this briggen yoga, he's beating the crap out of people and insulting them and they're paying him insane amounts of money in LA and before you know it, people are asking him to franchise and thus begins the story of the Bic room world because he's now charging 1000s and 1000s of dollars for people to become disciples of the Bikram yoga and in doing so the ability to open up franchises all over the United States, which is exactly what happened. I mean, this thing spread like wildfire throughout the United States. I didn't know anything about yoga, and even I had heard of Bikram yoga. It was everywhere. But we're here. But here's the deal is that in order to become a big room, like certified yogi, you had to go through his course you had to pay insane amounts of money. And the here's the catch, he had to sign off on you personally. And this is where a lot of as it turns out, and the Netflix documentary and I should pause here just to let you know, this is a documentary on Netflix, so I can't remember exactly how many episodes it is but it's multiple episodes. It's it's a very fast moving and very worthwhile discovery of who Bikram was what the process was what led to his incarceration and ultimately what led to the trial of Vikram yoga and then eventually what became of Bikram yoga, which is to say that the whole thing disintegrated and that's not ruining anything. That's just that's why you don't see Bikram yoga anymore. When folks we're ready to certify as guru, typically young, attractive women, he would frequently as alleged in the Netflix documentary, bring them to his hotel room or bring him to his office or bring them to his house and there, he would molest them. He would molest them sometimes multiple times. In one case, he raped a woman with the woman's husband and children in the next room. He stole money, he cajoled money, he extorted people, he forced people into situations that they weren't comfortable with. And just it turns out that as the case against them started to build, like it became like an avalanche of accusations of all the terrible things that this guy was doing while building his empire. And not just rape and, and kidnapping and but also like extortion and financial crimes, and you know, all these terrible things that are starting to come to light. Here's the amazing epilogue to the story. And that is, he denies it all. He refuses to face the courts here in the United States. He no one knows where he is. He supposedly was in Mexico City, then he was in India, but he's not here. No one knows where he is. He has millions and millions and many, many, probably 10s of millions of dollars, if not more socked away from this. And to date, he has never faced a single charge, not a single charge from any of this. So dude, the dudes gone. And all that's left is just this wreckage of Bikram yoga that is strewn across the United States. And so there is no more big room, all of the all of those studios, all those certifications are gone the the concept of hot yoga, which to be fair, he did introduce to American audiences, it still exists, and it's thriving here in the US, but the name Vic Roma shall not be spoken ever again. And that is the story that comes from Netflix, I think they do an excellent job. It's a well done documentary. It is interesting, having just taken yoga myself, I know how easy it is to be exposed to a situation where wounded people are seeking more from their Yogi's and I get how, again, how people could be exploited in that situation, I totally understand it. And it just does bring up an underlying theme here in the US, which is there are a number of stories that are coming to light about lifestyle choices that are fraught with crimes, opportunities to exploit people, not just with yoga, but with, you know, all kinds of different paths to so called enlightenment. And I think this is just one terrible story associated with probably a lot of similar stories and all kinds of different ways a number of efforts. So episodes back I talked about the Nexium self help group that turned into a flat out cult felt felt like a similar vibe story to this, although I didn't hear about so much extortion and financial crimes. It is a similar theme. So I am starting to be more sensitive to the fact that a lot of these lifestyle channels that are available to us can be fraught with opportunities to be exploited. So I'll just throw that out there as a warning for all our viewers don't be exploited. Be very careful. And also be careful with how yoga you can get sick. So I'll pause there. It's a good watch. I enjoyed it. And I hope you guys check it out

Sal Demilio 10:07

what you said during your review that he just took off or whatever, like, where did he go? You take a bunch of money overseas or something? Yeah,

Ron Lippitt 10:15

yeah, that's the suggestion. They don't know where he is. Okay.

Sal Demilio 10:19

There's no more hot right?

Ron Lippitt 10:23

Well, I'll tell you if you're not gonna watch the whole thing. What is interesting to watch is it seems just abusing these people because the guy is being such a narcissist that he was videotaping himself right? There's a million videotapes of him leading these classes in California and he just loved to show on video all the ways to so called better people by abusing them Pinky at the time, he thought that that was helping to market the style, but it's now looking at it through this this lens. It's not so attractive.

Jeff Dwoskin 10:55

You recommend it?

Ron Lippitt 10:57

I do recommend it. It's interesting. And I think I think you I think it's a definitely a worthy watch. I know yoga might be your thing. But I don't know that yoga is really what the story is. I think it's about all of our the potential to be exploited in seeking new things in our lives.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:17

All right straight from Episode 68 of crossing the streams Ron Libet masterfully taken us through the downward dog of Bikram Yogi guru predator. Check that out on Netflix and next episode 67 Jeff Horst and Esther Nevarez guests of the show are taking us through this is us take it away Jeff and Esther. Alright, cool. So let's get to another one. Let's this is let's get to a tear jerker of all shows. Oh, this is now in its 400 season. Jeff, take it away last

Esther Nevarez 11:55

season, no less.

Jeff Horste 11:56

Yeah, this last season. This is a tear jerker show. This is a show that when people watch it, and they say they don't cry, then you don't, you can't trust them. You can't trust people that their body isn't producing an emotion that millions of dollars is put into this program to make you you're broken. If you don't cry watching this, especially the first season, it's almost every single episode for the first couple of seasons. And it's about Jack and Rebecca, husband and wife. It's about their love story at first to where it's kind of hard to not spoil it without just describing

Esther Nevarez 12:36

just can we spoil the pilot

Jeff Dwoskin 12:38

I think because I mean it's been it's been

Esther Nevarez 12:40

around permanently you can spoil your camera the pilot so how it ended

Jeff Horste 12:46

I remembered the pilot you might have to help me out with this. I remember the pilot being just was what hooked us on the show because it seemed like it was about separate stories. And then it all came together and then you found out that that they were a family that was the family they play with time a lot. They do a good job in the future they do a good job of showing the past and the future and then showing how people become who they grow up to be and it's very interesting that remind me the pilot just take okay,

Esther Nevarez 13:17

sorry, Rebecca and Jack have three children they have triplets but one of them dies the one of the triplets dies so they ended up adopting a baby who comes in that same day that they had the same day kids so they have three infants at the same time but in the pilot they're showing the adult lives of and you don't know that the past is the past because they don't really tell you yeah the very end you realize of the pilot you realize that you were watching their parents you think you're just watching another couple of people do it now that when they go back and forth you always know what time it is they changed like the coloring and

Jeff Dwoskin 13:57

Jack is Mandy Moore and Milo are ugly

Jeff Horste 14:02

and they did a very good job with Mandy Moore. I was very surprised at the at the casting and just the acting of it all because of having to make them look older. And it being believable. I believe that Mandy Moore is an older woman when I'm watching it. She does a really good job of making me feel like she's an older I don't know how old she is in the in the last season. But so so the story really stems around the passing of Jack you find out early on. It's what's interesting to me about this as us is that they do a lot of things in reverse and they still make it interesting. They're like alright, so Jack's gonna die. And then so the whole first season you're like, is it I think today's the day the episode he dies and you're like alright, no No buts. Not all right, he's today's episode. What is this guy gonna die? To get over with how does he die? And so they do a lot of showing the future of like these two people get together. And then we find out how that comes to be. And I feel like I don't know how that works for me, but I'm still in suspense. I'm interested in how how it comes to be the casting of it, I really think is amazing, because I don't know how, whose job it is to find children that you believe will grow up to look like this adult version of somebody else. But the whole time I'm like, this is different. This is insane. This is insane. They got they put they added the same freckle on one of theirs, their eyeballs, just just she's got an eyeball friend. So they gave as a young kid, they're like put on this eyeball freckle contact or something. I don't know they do it. But it does. There's so many characters that they add that it's hard for me to give too much in depth to any of them specifically, but it really is a shows about their family, and just how much the passing of their father, because it really stems around the three of them, the two brothers and sister and it shows just how much his passing affected affects their their lives as they go. They grow older,

Esther Nevarez 16:09

and they do a lot of parallels. Like they'll have a theme like, Okay, this is all of them having a hard time being a dad or something. And so they'll show like in the past, somebody's having whatever this hard time is with the debt and like they'll have that same problem in like three different timelines. But it's not obvious where they're where it seems forced, it just seems like natural, but then you'll go oh, wait, they were just having this kind of conversation. And now these people in this timeline are having this kind of conversation. It's cool.

Jeff Horste 16:40

They set up so much backstory to all of these characters, that during the pandemic, during the protests, when they added that aspect to the show, part of you just thinking of them from a writing standpoint, you're like, Did you rewrite how much of the show did you have to rewrite because you weren't planning on having to give people masks and talk about the industry? And you know, there's so many aspects of it that I'm like, how much of this did you have to redo but it doesn't feel forced somehow because they gave enough depth into the characters beforehand that it just seems like it's not like they were like, just now today we're going to talk about race because Randall the one that's adopted, he's black, and they talked enough about his background and how what made him feel different that when they brought it back later on, it felt appropriate without it being like a forced plot that you think some shows are like alright, a bad thing happened in the news. We got to we got to act like we care how do we just force this in here and title the episode? We're good people like they didn't

Esther Nevarez 17:40

sometimes they'll have episodes that aren't about any they had one It wasn't about any characters. It was just just a side story.

Jeff Horste 17:47

I mean, at the end, I thought they were going to tie it to somebody that was like related to somebody and make it and they're like this is based on a true story of

Esther Nevarez 17:56

it was so I've never seen that. I've never seen that. But these do go from side character sometimes and go to the past and like show them wasn't it about

Jeff Horste 18:05

like somebody who invented something for video games wasn't it? Like with like a weird Yeah, I forget what it was

Esther Nevarez 18:14

but yeah, it just do a good job.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:15

i When you were talking earlier Jared just posted this comment. It's exactly what I was thinking you're talking about that is he going to die and losing his arm and Hot Tub Time Machine. So the reason I never watched this is us and Ivor I remember specifically choosing not to watch it is I remember the promos, and I was like this just looks like one of those shows it's just going to manipulate me to try and cry and feel emotion and feel it it's it's good to cry Jeff Well, it's not that there's there's there's there's there's storytelling that kind of just gets you there. But it just felt like this. This was engineered to make you cry. Yeah, this is gonna everything's gonna twist and turn you and how real can that feel? You know? I mean you still cry in it and they're your singers. Yeah, I'm hearing good I'm hearing good things I'm hearing good thing how

Ron Lippitt 19:15

many how many sauces? This is a show yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 19:17

there's like 99 episodes.

Esther Nevarez 19:20

I want to say this the six or seven? The last one first

Ron Lippitt 19:24

for those of us who haven't even begun it sounds like such an overwhelming investment to get started on it.

Jeff Horste 19:32

But yeah, I guess it's also different of opinions for what people are interested in television meat to me I think that we should force people to cry so they didn't grow up and become serial killers. That's what Dre should be. Alright is never making them cry watching television. No, that's a DreamWorks is for you know, they handle that. Pixar does that they're ready crying in like a kid way. You know what I mean? Or, I'd like seeing adults go through sad things. and be a human being and you're

Jeff Dwoskin 20:01

right the cast is amazing I mean crazy mad Sterling K brown Justin Hartley hashtag my green arrow

Esther Nevarez 20:09

and they they're not perfect they show them flaws but you still like but they still make them likable and that makes it just more realistic so there's not see their perspective firsthand.

Jeff Horste 20:19

They do a good job of even if they make a decision that I disagree with of like I don't think they should have did that I they build the characters up enough to I'm like, I see why you did that. Like I see the I see where everybody's coming from there. I don't think there was ever a moment where I'm like that's nobody would ever do that. That's insane. Yeah,

Esther Nevarez 20:35

even the dad he's like looked at as like oh, he was the best and he's the pedestal and everybody wants to be like he was a drunk and he was like he had problems

Jeff Horste 20:44

they view him as being perfect but they still show his flaws.

Jeff Dwoskin 20:47

So you're all in you're all in on this as I'm all

Esther Nevarez 20:50

this one of the only shows that we actually keep up with we just had a show last night or we would have watched

Jeff Dwoskin 20:55

this stream of work can you watch previous seasons Hulu Hulu Hulu All right cool. Awesome. Great job guys. We are speaking Alright, so I guess basically if you need a cry, this is us is for you. Thanks Jeff and Esther check out past episodes and catch up with all of this is us on Hulu by the way, Hulu Netflix they don't pay us we just mentioned it so you can find it easier. All right up next all the way back from Episode 16 operation varsity blues. Bob was supposed to take the lead on this he had technical issues had to bail I jumped in we'd all seen it. It was a hot movie at the time. But if you haven't seen it, you got to check it out. Take it away me. So if anyone hasn't noticed Well, I had complete technical difficulties last week, but yet managed to stay on the whole time yet managed to deal with customer support on one computer and completely managing a completely live show on the fly and the other one Bob is no longer here. Bob though, however, was taking the lead on Operation varsity blues for some reason everyone who watches this thing's it's called the admissions scandal college scandal because I think on actually Netflix that's what they call it. I don't think they call it by the name of the actual movie. Operation varsity blues. I did watch his movie. So I'll run shotgun on it and then thinks outside as well. And I saw it as well. Okay, so we all saw it. So I'll give it and then we'll kind of talk about it because this

Sal Demilio 22:33

can I see what the name should have been for this. It shouldn't have been operation varsity, but there was no varsity athletes. It should have been. It should have been operation freshmen have no talent balloon. That's what it should have been called. Go ahead, Jeff. I had to get that joke in.

Ron Lippitt 22:47

It should be rolling is not a sport.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:50

Whoa. Hey, we're getting emails now. Rowing rower. We didn't get with letters last week. We're not getting well I resist I apologize for the roaming. So as as most people know, because of their love for Aunt Becky from Full House, there was something that went on not too long ago, actually, where it became very clear that there were many, many very rich white families mostly, I think mostly it was all rich white people, right? It basically buying their way into prestigious colleges. And so what this movie does is a documentary it's about an hour 40 minutes or so like that. So it is one of those HBO shows that does actually just use the time and doesn't turn this into five hours of MC millions. So sorry, Howard. I know you'd like that one. So I shorter just a quick background is there's this person named Rick singer Rick singer has a background he used to coach for college sports. When he left that job. The knowledge that he had was that he recognized that there was this quote unquote side door way to get people into colleges, that side door being get them approved and then doesn't have to go specifically through the admissions process. It goes through the coaches onto these lesser known sports teams. So we're not talking about putting someone on a football team. We're talking about water volleyball, we're talking what else is it? What's the what is the paddling one?

Ron Lippitt 24:33

One of them sailing,

Jeff Dwoskin 24:34

sailing, right? So these smaller checkers no I don't know, checker competitive chess. And so it's called a side door because the reality is there's also what's called the back door the back door is the end still exists to this day and will probably always exists is my rich dad donates. Like this happened to Jared Kushner Jared Kushner his father donates $2.5 million is Don't quote me on the exact amount but millions upon millions of dollars to Harvard. And suddenly he's admitted, right without the grades that of anyone or anything, or test scores of someone who should have been admitted. This also went to the point where they would send these people to certain test locations, SAP locations and get them to first they would the children, the students would go get evaluated and be evaluated having a disorder or something that made them allow for extra time on their tests. This is something actually that a lot of people do in every city going to get their kids extra time where suddenly they have a disorder that they didn't have prior. That means you can have seven hours on the LSAT instead of four, or it's taken over two days, etc. So they would then have those people go to this location where then a paid off the person administering the test, who would then redo the answers on the test. And literally because they were smart enough. And by smart enough, it's very clear that it meaning like any 40 year old should be able to pass a test match for a 17 year old. So you know, to get them the scores that they would need to get into school. And then they would doctor photos. So they would take sales face and put them on an actual water polo person's body and then submit that through the water polo team and make a very large donation to get them to be approved by the coaches as a member of that team. And so the famous thing is Lori Loughlin daughter, who that whole thing kind of blew up in her face because this her daughter was Olivia Jade who had this huge influence her career like huge the take one of the takeaways I took is Wow, they're bad parents, they should have just let her be what she was going to be I mean, she was accomplishing more than and the scandal not only most of the time, just so everyone knows the kids didn't even know this stuff was going on. And so, you know, they basically ruined her entire career the daughter's career by forcing them in anyway, so But the premise of the movie is fascinating, the sense Matthew Modine stars as Rick singer, and this isn't like most of those cheesy movies and documentaries where they do these ridiculous reenactments, they it's actually really, really well acted. And they use the exact wire transfer scripts. I say that assuming it's true wire tap scripts, yeah, that they do. So it's all the actual dialogue is going back and forth. And when you watch it, it's just it's absolutely fascinating, and just how some people were manipulated and got screwed, and all that kind of stuff. And the interesting thing is this Rick Snyder, singer, Guy was such a good salesperson, he's still free. He's still running and doing whatever because his deal was until everyone else got prosecuted. He didn't. He's sitting there is a free person. So it could be so while Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman and all those people were in jail, and other people spent, you know, five weeks, five months in jail, he's still freeze a bird. And so all this all this gets cleared out. And there's probably a good half dozen people that could take years to get through the legal system.

Sal Demilio 28:04

Yeah, one of the things I liked about it, Jeff was seeing the students that did not get in to the schools, they would show like zoom videos of those students not getting in and crying because they couldn't get in. I thought that was kind of a little added thing to So also what I was thinking of, obviously, like you said, Jeff, they had to use sports that really didn't make a lot of money. But I was thinking like, can you imagine how many how many of these so called athletes that could have hid if they could have used like the USC football team because there's like Saturday, guys that Alyssa, you're gonna hit the two daughters and, you know, Brent Musburger gonna win a USC has two female field goal kickers on the backup team. I mean, you could have hit so many of these really money if you couldn't use the football team, but obviously you can't those football teams make all the money. So those sports do exist, like rowing and all that, but I thought Modine did a great job in it. Obviously, he's a very well respected actor. I thought it was really good. You did a good job of reviewing it, but I don't know. Ron, I think you said you saw it as well.

Ron Lippitt 29:06

I did. I did I always remark on these schemes like this. Do you ever notice they always go south nap because somebody caught on to the scheme and the Feds get investigated? It's something secondary always happens unrelated to the events that suddenly puts the the Feds onto the onto the sense of what's actually going on. And that's exactly what happened here.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:28

Right some some guy got arrested and then said well, I can give you information on Rick singer if you if you let me go. That's exactly right. But the funny thing, the funny thing is Ron, that's how a lot of things happen. Like you can have murderers they get pulled over for a traffic ticket. And that's how they catch them. I mean, it's it's happens a while

Sal Demilio 29:46

I got a question for you guys, though, when they when Rick singer would be on the phone with some of these parents and they would like be doubting it a little bit like, you know, he would say, Oh, we've been doing this for 24 years. Was that just a line that he was using, or was it really going on for 24 years? I think. Did you guys catch

Jeff Dwoskin 30:04

that? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either. Yeah,

Zack Wiseman 30:07

it seemed like he was lying about a lot of stuff. So I would assume. Here's my question. I liked it. I thought it was actually really cool. I liked the version and the usage of the playbacks. But my question is, throughout the whole thing, what was he using? Was he, okay, I'm assuming he made money, but what was he doing with his money because they said multiple times, he would get up at four in the morning, he just go to work, and he would travel and he'd work and he would work and then he would work and then he would work but they never showed him spending or doing anything. The only thing they

Ron Lippitt 30:38

showed Zack is that they had a ridiculous car what was it that's

Unknown Speaker 30:41

like a Tesla that's what's in a Tesla

Sal Demilio 30:46

house was enormous to his

Jeff Dwoskin 30:47

house yeah, he seems to be just the guy that like I think there's certain people that just they like winning that thing so it's like it's not even about you know, he had the nice car he had he could fly around he probably was first class everywhere he went all that kind of stuff. It is great though I'd everyone should watch it. It's it was a great, it's a great deep dive into understanding the scandal and everything that kind of went on and just the scam that happened.

Ron Lippitt 31:11

I'll just say one of the things that before we move on is that it's because Yale and Stanford are featured in this but but I also found it super interesting that a lot of the schools that were wrapped up in this are not like what you'd consider to be elite schools. Well,

Jeff Dwoskin 31:26

the other interesting thing is is they blame the schools we we reconvince Casey Ryan plot so success size you know just basically kind of the the greatest thing the biggest scam is is that you have the only way to get a good education is to go to Harvard or one of these Ivy League schools you know, and so it's like and then that creates this demand and then it creates all these things that you know and all these backdoor deals and all that kind of stuff. All right operation varsity blues. Check it out. We all love that one. I think that one's a must see. Also, this is us Bikram yogi, Guru predator, Episode 1667, and 68. All featured, check out the full episodes and 80 plus more on our YouTube channel, follow us on YouTube and get alerted when we go live every Wednesday at 9:30pm. Eastern Time. We'd love to have you chat along with us. So you got homework, check out those shows. Go find your favorite spot on the couch, grab the remote, cross your own streams, and I'll see you next time.

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