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#139 The Crossing The Streams That Made Us (Bonus Ep23) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

Need TV binge suggestions? You’ve come to the right place.

We’ve got you covered. Crossing the Streams originated on this podcast in episodes 8 and 15. My idea was to record friends freely discussing TV shows (and movies) they binge on one of the many, many streaming services we all subscribe to.

Jeff Dwoskin is joined by Howard Rosner, Ron Lippitt, Bob Philips, and Sal Demilio are your co-hosts and we’re joined weekly by special guests.

The assignment? We each come to the show with a TV binge suggestion. It might be a series, movie, or documentary but we’ll give you the scoop so you can decide for yourself whether or not to dive in.

In this bonus episode we discuss a few great binge suggestions:

  • Untold: Dancing with the Devil (from live ep 66)
  • Kingdom (from live ep 10)
  • The Movies That Made Us (from live ep 1646

Each segment is pulled from a show and shared as is in all its LIVE goodness.

Full past live episodes: https://www.youtube.com/c/thejeffdwoskinshow/null

Also, you can join us live every week at 9:30 PM ET on YouTube

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CTS Announcer 0:01

Looking for your next TV show or movie to binge? Well buckle up, grab the remote and settle into your couch for this special edition of crossing the streams. We're here to help you tune in and get the most out of those 50 monthly streaming channels you're currently paying for. So without any further ado, here's your host of crossing the streams. Jeff Dwoskin

Jeff Dwoskin 0:30

Hey, Oh, it's great to have you back. Once again, bonus episode of Classic conversations. We're doing it crossing the stream style. That's right. What is crossing the streams? Jeff? Great question. Glad you asked. crossing the streams is a live show that I do with my pals, Howard, Ron, Bob and Sal every Wednesday 9:30pm Eastern time we're live go to our YouTube channel link in the show notes follow along comment along talk with us. What we do is we answer that universal question what should I be watching next? What should I be watching? What is everyone else talking about? Every week we talk about a bunch of great shows or movies that you can stream and binge on the YouTube channel right now we've got over 75 hours of recommendations just waiting for you. So what's this podcast bonus episode? Well, I pulled some of the highlights from the live shows like this episode as highlights from Episode 1046 and 66 crossing the gamut got regular friend to the show Jess Paul talking about Kingdom got sowards Emilio we got Saudi Emilio breaking his rom com trend and talking about untold deal with the devil. A great boxing documentary and Howard Rosner is going to take us through one of the best series on Netflix, the movies that made us so you can tune in every Wednesday, you can check out the YouTube channel or you can just wait right here in the classic conversations feed and I will just send bonus episodes to your ears that you can take in and then go and watch the shows that we talk about speaking of shows and talking about shows, let's get right to it. That's why you're here. It's why we're all here. Let's kick things off from Episode 46 Howard Rosner is going to take us through the movies that made us take it away Rhys, one of my favorite series we're going to cover the movies that made us on Netflix so the movies that made us this is we could we could probably spend an entire episode Yeah, yeah. covered again in future episodes but a Jurassic Park shirt for this

Howard Rosner 2:41

fantastic guys. Hi, my top five records from high fidelity. So the movies that made us is it's great. It is such bubblegum you know, pleasant to watch, but really informative television so if you haven't seen it what it is is now three seasons on Netflix each episode focusing on the making of a different movie that was a cultural icon so just really quick the list of the movies that have episodes so far Dirty Dancing home alone, Ghostbusters diehard Back to the Future Pretty Woman Jurassic Park Forrest Gump Halloween Friday, the 13th Nightmare on Elm Street, Robocop aliens coming to America Nightmare Before Christmas and elf and they're all great.

Jeff Dwoskin 3:26

Let's pause for a minute. And we're back.

Howard Rosner 3:28

I mean, every episode I've seen is fantastic. So like I said, aside from be really informative, and getting pretty good interviews of a lot of the people that were heavily involved in making those movies, the one thing that I love is they don't make them overly serious. They do an incredible editing job with the graphics also where they use movie lines from characters in that specific movie or that actor in a previous movie that just like answers a question or accentuates a question. And I love it. It's so upbeat because of that. But the stories and the information that they provide is fantastic. Like a lot of it is stuff that I never knew before. So I don't want to get too far afield in any of the episodes but just a couple of things that came up in some of the episodes that I really liked. So there were a few things in the Ghostbusters episode that were just incredible. I never knew that Dan and Eric Rhodes family was so big generations back into the occult, and that's where he got the idea Ackroyd to start writing the script that you'd had for a long time and he had written the script. I was amazed by this. He had written the script for the original three Ghostbusters to be him Belushi and Eddie Murphy. Think about that would have been pretty amazing. So they talked about that, obviously. You know, Eddie Murphy had become just a superstar Belushi had passed away. They brought in Harold Ramis and there wasn't a four character they brought that carried they brought the Winston Zeddemore character in later and then the so but the homage to Belushi that's in the movie as it is now is they demanded that Slimer look like Belushi so that was they took a lot of facial features. So that was interesting, pretty woman I thought was amazing that it was really written almost as a serious movie. The original script like all serious and the end was not a fairy tale Princess ending that was amazing. I loved one of the facts from Forrest Gump was that Tom Hanks didn't have that accent down when they started initial filming for the movie. And the way that he developed that accent, which really he was just doing a southern accent the way he developed the accent was the kid that played young Forrest his accent, which wasn't an act that accent was just literally his accent, his accent, his tone, his cadence, they said that's it. And Tom Hanks just started studying the kid doing his scenes and picked it up that way. And that's what stuck for for us is accident law. Die Hard was a couple of amazing things that I didn't know number one being that the first choice to play jazz McLean and die hard because Die Hard was loosely based on a book and from years earlier, the first choice to play John McClane, but he was clearly tool was Frank Sinatra. Frank frickin Sinatra.

Ron Lippitt 6:34

He must have been seven years old at that point. It might have been.

Howard Rosner 6:40

Yeah, so it was Sinatra. And they're like now and then they ran down the list at the time of every action star, Clint Eastwood Schwarzenegger, Burt Reynolds, every action style you could think of Bruce was just a diehard, like, there's no way there's no way he can carry a big budget action movie, but they stuck with it. The other thing that I thought was absolutely incredible from a movie making standpoint was the shot that they did with Hans falling at the end. Spoiler alert, sorry, they filmed that they actually dropped Alan Rickman, 40 feet, and he wanted to do it himself, not a stuntman. So they had him in a harness with the rope and they let him drop into a foam pit. They're like, I don't know how this is gonna go. But then he demanded to do it. But the thing was, they told him, we're gonna go 321 Go, and then we'll let you go. That's what they told him. The head stunt coordinator told everybody else we're dropping him on one. So they did. So the look of terror on his face was sure, terror because they dropped him on one. And he's like, Oh, I'm like, that's incredible. That's one of the most iconic shots of the last 30 plus years of film. And it happened just because they lied to him. And then the other thing was, elf was, you know, the, the way the movie came together was a writer who had written this script, couldn't get anybody to go for it. And he finally got some low level assistant producer working for some studios to take a meeting with him. And they I took a meeting. And he's like, I can't find anybody. Nobody wants it. I don't know who we can attach to this guy's like, I'm gonna find somebody. And he knew of a basketball game that Will Ferrell agent played in. And he went on a Saturday morning to play in this bass pickup basketball game, and he pitched the agent and they attach will to it. And that's how Will Ferrell got attached to it. So it was pretty cool. And then they talked about John Fabbro. The way that Fabbro got attached was because they had gone to watch will with some of the filming for old school as they were trying to pre produce it. And Vince Vaughn said, you know, why don't you talk to fabric that sounds like something he would like and Fabbro came into a meeting and said that he wrote on a blackboard he said there's three things that I want the story to be and if you can agree to those three things. I mean, one was he wanted to do the stop the stop animation, like the famous Christmas movies like Rudolph and he wanted to do it in that style. They're like great, we love that. The second was that he wanted it to be a true heartwarming family story. And then the third thing was he wrote I want this to be a an all time holiday classic. Which just incredible foresight

Jeff Dwoskin 9:38

is is the interesting thing about elf David Baron Baum wrote the script Fabbro directed it at as narrow was Santa Claus. It's the most Jewish and it's it's the best it's

Howard Rosner 9:52

yeah, yes, sir Obama said that he didn't really write the movie as a pure Christmas movie. He wrote it as a A father and son coming together and he wrote it after his dad had passed away. So it was it was surely it was cathartic for him. And he talks about it at the at the end of the episode. So I love this stories. There

Jeff Dwoskin 10:15

isn't a time I don't walk into a room and I'll just go, I'm seeing I love you.

Howard Rosner 10:23

We, my wife and I all the time, say to each other. Bye, buddy. Good luck. Bye.

Sal Demilio 10:30

Thanks, Mr. narwhal, Roz. I got a question. So, each episode takes a look at one movie.

Howard Rosner 10:38

Okay, yeah, yeah. And it takes a look at it from conceptualization through release. Pretty much cool. You know, Jurassic Park, you know, Jurassic Park episode, Jurassic Park. I mean, a lot of people obviously know this. But um, Jurassic Park changed movie making forever. And it was really one guy who realistically changed moviemaking forever. It was the guy who was on the team that was charged with doing what was supposed to be the animatronic dinosaurs. And was partially and he he's the like, we might be able to do this with computers. And his bosses were like, No, we're not doing it's not there's no way and he on his own, took months, designing the T Rex running and computers, and finally put it on a disk and they took it to screening with Spielberg in the studio and George Lucas. And they're like holy should be where they said Spielberg, his head almost exploded. And they're like, holy shit, that's it. And that, that that guy doing that literally changed CGI for movie making forever. The

Jeff Dwoskin 11:41

thing about this entire series is they maybe have like in Jurassic Park, which is why I'm wearing my dress, but I did have Sam Elliott. I think like he might be like the only real big name that actually got Gary Sinise for Forrest Gump. Yeah, yeah. But so but the cool thing about that is, is it's the other people it's the the lower level folks are the folks we don't know about. Right have the best stories like Pretty Woman, The Pretty Woman one is spectacular. Like they went to the schlocky as movie making company in the world to get this made. Because every and that's the funny thing about all these movies that made us is almost every one of them didn't almost didn't get made. It's like the they sat around for years. Like, I don't remember which one it was, might have been pretty woman where they almost had the deal. And then the first day it gets it was one of the movies where then it gets shelved. And then the person goes to another studio where the person happened to bring it up. And now that person who loved it the other studios at this studio, so it kind of comes back to life. And it's just a series of like stories about all these things.

Ron Lippitt 12:47

It is amazing. I so and I'm new to this series, Howard, but I just caught the last two, I just watched the Halloween and Friday the 13th episodes and I love exactly the little production things that you didn't realize. I love all the stories like that. So this show chronicling little things that are trivial is a fascinating way to analyze shows. As an example Halloween. I think I mentioned to you Halloween spent a third of their $100,000 budget here that again, the entire budget for the movie was $100,000. And they spent a third of the budget on a single camera. That was their pan of vision study shots, which was brand new at the time. The people that made that movie were like losing their mind that they they had no money to spend on actors or sets or houses or anything because they spent all the money on this camera. And boy did it paint pay off. It was the first movie that

Howard Rosner 13:38

it's still making movies. Yeah. Yeah. Like barely, barely making more TV shows. Yeah, like Forrest Gump. They almost shelved it because as they were pre in pre production Rain Man, one, you know was up for Oscars. And they're like, nobody's gonna want to see another savant movie. You know? So they almost shelved it because of that. They're like, they got their fill of savant suschem It

Jeff Dwoskin 14:03

was only because someone liked the book, which is a crappy book. It's which has nothing to do with really what they turned it into. It's like it's so interesting. All right, that was the movies that made us Thank you. Howard Rosner can check out the full episode episode 46 on the YouTube channel if you started to dive into that show on Netflix just clear your whole week because you're just you're not gonna want to stop all right up next rom com fans of Saudi familia be damned because Saudis going all in with untold deal with the devil but this is a great one. Enjoy. Take it away. So let's go with untold deal with the devil.

Unknown Speaker 14:45

All right, come on. All right. All right. Well, I

Sal Demilio 14:48

threw you guys for a loop I threw in a boxing documentary along with my partner here Bob. Light disguised it he didn't I know I love that two of them, but Anyway, this this documentary and it's the untold series. Like Jeff said, I've done think I've done all of them except the malleus one, I think Rozner did that one. But basically this is the story of a professional women's boxer, Christy Martin.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:16

Let's pause for a minute. And we're back.

Sal Demilio 15:19

She actually became the the winningest women's boxer in the history of the sport and basically her it just goes through her basically her life really, really good footage and other documentary this untold the whole series. I think there's five or six of them, all of them have really, really good footage and I think that's very important, obviously in the documentary. So it's a lot of footage, which is really cool of her boxing, but basically she's from West Virginia and she's, it's kind of funny, they a lot of the footages of the fights. They would call her a Coal Miner's Daughter of the boxing industry is how she started her boxing career. She's again Coal Miner's Daughter and West Virginia, tough kid grew up in like a tough neighborhood when she was young. It's kind of funny how she started boxing. I think Bob will appreciate this. She, there was like this fair in town. And there was 1000s of people and they were boxing. They're like, just in the neighborhoods boxing. And she's like, Mommy, I want to do that. And she's like, What are you crazy. And she goes in there, and the mother sees that the winners get $200 for each fight that they can win over the weekend, she wins three fights, makes the family $600. And that's how her boxing career got started. She started kind of going into gyms and everything, and just just just getting better at boxing. This is very important because it's a lot of also shows a little bit of LGBTQ situations that are going on in this country from back then even till today. But she started having a relationship with a another female basketball player on her high school team. And that kind of fizzled out after high school or boxing became very, very important. And that relationship kind of dwindled. And she started boxing, she started getting very good at boxing, she got a manager named Jim Martin became her trainer. And he was one of the best in the business of a very good price writer himself. And anyway, really good coach and took her to another level. And then Don King got involved in this was kind of funny when she and this is all on footage, but you're not hearing them actually talk with the head, literally video of Don King sitting behind a desk. And it's kind of funny, the narrator said, when the contract was on the table, this Jim Martin, who was managing Christi, said, Well, we have to take that contract home with us. And Don King said, Well, how much do you guys make it now? And Jim goes, while we're making $200, and fight, he goes, Well, that goes that contrary thing leaving that desk, and that contract is gonna make you more than $200. And it made them millionaires actually, Don King made them millionaires. He put them on under cards with Mike Tyson. I didn't even know this. I mean, I've been watching box.

Unknown Speaker 18:01

Yeah, she was she was one of the first Yeah, I really

Sal Demilio 18:05

didn't know about her, to be honest with you. But anyway, she had a very, very illustrious career. She ended up fighting Ali's daughter and that was actually one of her while she ended up going like 49 and nine, but it was one of her first early losses. But anyway, she became a very, very successful boxer. But on the other hand, she also had a tough time because she ended up marrying her manager, and he ended up abusing her and it was just and just a horrible marriage and actually got to the point where, you know, there was almost an attempted murder involved by him. We ended up doing jail time on this and it just kind of tells you the whole story of her not only your boxing career, but her sexuality and her and obviously her abuse, she got into drugs. They just started doing cocaine together her and Jim, very, very troubled. Girl but obviously just an amazing boxer. And I tell you, this documentary takes you on a journey of her life and it was worth a whole hour and 17 minutes. She turns her life around at the end and is actually ended up it's kind of funny she kind of ended up marrying the high school girl the girl that she dated in high school because obviously she found her sexuality that marriage didn't last and then she ended up actually getting together at the end with one of the girls she fought years earlier in the ring actually another very good writer and no it's a great story she's in she's in the coaching herself now. Really cool. So she did all the talk shows all that stuff. She was a really big name in the sport and unfortunately I just didn't follow women's boxing but that was a great documentary. I highly recommend

Bob Phillips 19:48

it great summary so she was she was the she was the to boxing with the runaways were to rock and roll back in 76 and seven, she you know, she just came out of nowhere and She was so far in a way better than anybody else. You know, she made some money but not the kind of money that remember Ronda Rousey. You know, she

Sal Demilio 20:08

Yeah, you're right. She was before that, but yeah, well, she was doing okay for herself and some of the footages they showed him her whole. Yeah. Ours. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 20:15

she was a good boxer. She could kick the shit out of all five of us. There's no question.

Sal Demilio 20:19

Oh, my God, she was tough. I mean, in the footage of her boxing is just just so amazing. Just highlights reels of her.

Unknown Speaker 20:26

I was. I was wonder too, if if she was the inspiration behind Million Dollar Baby. I mean, the Clint Eastwood movie.

Sal Demilio 20:34

It really could be man who could be that? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Because her big flights were at 9697. That was just about when that movie was around, I believe. Yeah, that was not long after. Yeah, that's good point, Bob. That's great. Because maybe what

Jeff Dwoskin 20:50

Mike White knows.

Mike White 20:54

I remember that Million Dollar Baby, I want to say was based on a book that was written by was it a referee or a corner, man. But he was telling a lot of his some of the stuff that he had seen. And I want to say that I heard an interview with him on NPR was one of those like, where you hear the interview? And then a few years later, this movie comes out and you're like, I think I've heard that story. Wherever I heard Yeah, for

Sal Demilio 21:20

Yeah, yeah. And oh, one more thing

Jeff Dwoskin 21:22

about that. I just Googled, it's out in Katy Dallas Lillian.

Sal Demilio 21:26

Okay. That's right. One more thing about that documentary I've been well, obviously, Rocky is one of my favorite movies of all time, and I've been watching it my whole life. I've one of the best boxing kind of scenes I've ever seen on film or anything, was when she broke her hand in a fight. She was about to win the fight. It was two minutes away from her winning this really, really big fight and she was actually fighting with a broken hand. You can see her kind of dangling it in the well in the ring. And the frickin ref called the fight with like a minute to go. No. And you have her in the corner. He's holding her wrist and she's going with her mouth like closest so she's like, let me finish this let us just sweat going down and found like oh my god, it's like one of the best boxing scenes I've ever seen. And it was real footage. But yeah, it was awesome. It's it's worth that's worth watching it right there.

Unknown Speaker 22:19

Good. I'm gonna watch it. I'm watching it tomorrow, buddy. I'd never seen that one

Jeff Dwoskin 22:25

hour right how awesome is Sal the untold series seem to all be really really good. That one definitely seems awesome. That was Mike White in there as well from the projection booth. Mike's been on the show a couple of times. His podcast and projection booth was just named one of the best pop culture podcasts so kudos to Mike White up next someone else who's got a lot going on just Paul frequent guests to the show but this this one goes all the way back to Episode 10 Way back when we were just crossing the stream babies This is kingdom so if you like zombie Korean Game of Thrones type shows. Whoa. And for a treat. Take it away Jess. Her next amazing show ladies and gentlemen. Oh, Kingdom Jess is gonna spill. It's gonna spill on this. Okay, Netflix.

Jess Paul 23:20

We're going all the way across a couple of ponds to funeral Korea and the one place in time where you'd never think that there would be a zombie outbreak. It is so much fun. It is so unique. So basically, we start where does that story start? We learned pretty quickly that the king has died or might have died he's sick he might die but he is still holding on he's still holding on and again this is futile Cletus Korea so about like medieval times I'm getting medieval times is very broad because I couldn't tell you I tried to look it up and like the dynasty lasted like 1000 years so I'm not sure when this takes place. Exactly. But man one thing that I learned about this like I'll get to the zombies in a second because they are fierce but I realized watching the show i Okay i watching the show with my friend Zoe we're doing Netflix night we're doing it this Saturday again and we've been watching two series will will open with misfits which I talked about a couple episodes ago if you guys were there. So we'll open with misfits because it's funnier it's really weird to watch misfits after all the blood and gore and political drama that is Kingdom than watch the zombies so so for one thing I realized about this show when I first watched it and I felt so stupid that I could not tell you what any other country was doing besides like British Europe in like medieval I didn't know what anyone looked like. Can you guys like think about it like what? What did they wear? Did they have kingdoms like, you know, so yeah, I mean, futile. So like, you know, there's lots of there's basically the poor in the dirt. And then there's these kings, and we'll get to the zombies in a second. But one thing that I was really drawn to and this just says so much about me like, I didn't even know the Superbowl happened this week until they said it the next day who won and I didn't even know who was in it. So, so yeah, I'm pretty out of touch. But when I saw you know, some of these costumes that were in this show, that was like, even more exciting than like some of the blood and guts and running running zombies like speedy zombies that were in this like, could you even imagine what they wore back then? Can I share my screen on this? No, probably not. Right? Yeah, I think I can Can I Can I just know

Unknown Speaker 25:48

if you do I do. First if you

Knork Expert 25:51

want to ask what what is the what is the vocal the audio like on that show? Do they

Jess Paul 25:58

read it? Yeah, because it is it is Korean so I noticed

Knork Expert 26:01

I'm looking now and I see they actually film this right in Seoul Korea, so they're speaking they're speaking Korean through the whole thing

Jess Paul 26:09

you're speaking Korean it is a Korean show that Netflix is sharing with the rest you know the world and so you do have to read but to be honest, there's not there's a lot of time where you don't have to read anything because you know fighting zombies because there are some some of the best choreography if you are in action if you're in a horror action imagine Korea like and the the prince The protagonist is the prince who was supposed to take the kingdom basically he's being pushed out he's kind of like John the John Snow a feudal Kurita career right here like he he's you know, not wanted but he might have you know, an actual place in the throne. But since like the the father is still alive. He's being kept alive by zombie magic in a very interesting route, which Oh, god, oh, I actually just found out not going to spoil it for you guys if you want to see it. But like the last episode, I watched, I think, I think we got one more until the we are on the finale that we're on the finale, we found out we

Jeff Dwoskin 27:05

just go through all the stages.

Jess Paul 27:10

But basically, I had just found out in the episodes like what the the zombie outbreak has come from, because Okay, I'll tell you a little bit of the plot in the beginning, everybody's infected because somebody that fetal Korea, everybody's very poor. And they they have meat introduced into this one village, and might be a person might be a person who has bit by the King who might be the first zombie in this talk, because they're trying to keep them alive again by zombie magic. So this entire village is then just infected to the degree and this is fun. Again, I'm not going to give away too much of the plot. But what they do find this, should I this is a really fun part. Okay, what I this is, like I said, like I said, I'm working through it out loud. It's a podcast, I need it. You need you work, you work out your thoughts out loud, because I'm trying to think if I should tell you guys certain Go ahead. Let me let me let me tell you one of the coolest things about so these zombies they they believe in the beginning. They don't know why they're coming alive at night. And that is kind of one of the gimmicks that that made oh so close, it happens that the bodies kind of collapse and fall apart when they think it's the sunlight because they only start moving in the night. What you find out though, is that it's it's heat and they're going into winter so it it really intensifies about every two episodes like the stakes get higher things look more impossible like you literally watch the protagonist almost get eaten running from these zombies to get through these gates for like two minutes straight. You're like oh my god, he almost got eight like five guys. So

Knork Expert 28:54

So is it very dark? Is it a dark show to watch? Not dark, emotionally dark on the screen? It appears to be

Jess Paul 29:02

it's got a lot of politics behind it. You know how like Game of Thrones they're all They're spoken talking to each other for like ever, you know, everybody's having different conversations scene after scene. It's very much like that. And then you have the brutal zombie action and let me tell you about these frickin extras. Or I don't even know what you would call them and and me and Zoey were watching other Korean zombie films because it's a it's a big thing over there. They love them I'm sure that they love so many things that we also love because we're all human beings but it is it is a pretty

Jeff Dwoskin 29:30

big crowd the world together. This is like that peace moment.

Jess Paul 29:36

But yeah, so whoever the like when you see a zombie extra and a Korean zombie film they are putting in the work. I don't even know if you could call them extras if they're all stunt people but there's hundreds like there were shots where there's hundreds just people walking around, like falling over each other like these are props these people are like making their bodies into incredibly fun to watch props. Just Sleep like because there's dead

Ron Lippitt 30:01

there's just Do you know was the show produced by Netflix or was it purchased by Netflix but and it was already?

Jess Paul 30:08

I'm assuming it was purchase? Yeah.

Ron Lippitt 30:10

Okay, that sounds crazy. i By the way, I think Fred was asking like visually is it visually dark?

Knork Expert 30:15

Yeah, that's what I was getting at visually. Oh yeah,

Jess Paul 30:20

I mean it's in the night but I mean, it's lit as well as any other any other are

Ron Lippitt 30:26

all the complaints that Game of Thrones about?

Knork Expert 30:27

Well I'll tell you that the Asian level of cinematography oh my god has become such a so to screenwriting side of it that I study a lot is so simplistic they because they're, they're trying to sell it to an American. Yeah, this is where the money is, you know, we all know that this is where you want to make your film and the cinematography of it has become grown because of that, because the director is taking over. And the screenwriter isn't as a existent. It's not all about him.

Jess Paul 30:59

That's funny that you say that about about how they did it, because I do feel like I grasped it, even though it was it was very Game of Thrones, and in the way that like, in this, I always had a problem. I didn't finish Game of Thrones, but one of the problems I had, which a lot of people had was keeping tabs on who's who there's so many characters introduced, and they're all political, or like part of the Kingdom hierarchy for the most part, except for like a couple, like a nurse and stuff so so it's like, they're all ahead of their chief of something, they're king or like, whatever, whatever, they're different, you know, like, whatever those statuses were and, and so, you know, just to know that like, you know, the, how the zombies work and how what the threats are like that's what we needed to know and basically the goal is pretty clear that the prince protagonist he's like the he's at the forefront of the poster their key rightfully deserves the throne both like within the status that he is because they're trying to keep his father alive and they're not they're being deceptive, but oh god look at these costumes. Oh, here we can Oh, geez. So these hats they're like mesh I'm like how are they making these clothes back then? I love watching all of these costumes they're fantastic. Talk about you know cinematography and a set you know that is it is very fun to watch. It's it's gorgeous. It really is like a zombie game of thrones from Korea like really? So if you if you like any of those things then please go read

Jeff Dwoskin 32:25

this just easy Ryan was on the fence. But you got me Jess. Good All right, that was just Paul and kingdom. Super fun. What a great show. Huh? You like zombies? You like boxing? Do you like movies, the show had it all probably one of the greatest shows ever. So definitely put on your checklist Kingdom untold deal with the devil and the movies that made us you got a lot of homework. So what I recommend is grab the remote, find your favorite spot on the couch, cross your own streams, and we'll see it next time.

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