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#83 Crossing the Streams Returns (Bonus episode 1)

Need TV binge suggestions? You’ve come to the right place. We’ve got you covered.

Crossing the Streams originated on this podcast in episodes 8 and 15. My idea was to record friends freely discussing TV shows (and movies) they binge on one of the many, many streaming services we all subscribe to.

Jeff Dwoskin, Howard Rosner, Ron Lippitt, Bob Philips, and Sal Demilio are your co-hosts and we’re joined weekly by special guests. The assignment? We each come to the show with a TV binge suggestion. It might be a series, movie, or documentary but we’ll give you the scoop so you can decide for yourself whether or not to dive in.

In this episode we discuss:

  • I think you should leave with Tim Robinson (and Detroiters) (from live ep 32)
  • Nine Perfect Strangers (from live ep 42)
  • McCartney 3 2 1 (from live ep 34)

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CTS Announcer 0:01

Looking for your next TV show or movie to binge? Well buckle up, grab the remote and settle into your couch for this special edition of crossing the streams. We're here to help you tune in and get the most out of those 50 monthly streaming channels you're currently paying for. So without any further ado, here's your host of crossing the streams. Jeff Dwoskin

Jeff Dwoskin 0:31

Hey, everybody, it's Jeff Dwoskin. So excited to be here. I'm always getting letters and emails and tax and skywriting saying, Jeff, we love the podcast can't get enough of the podcast, but you only do the podcast once a week in between that we need to fill the time nay the void that exists when there isn't a new podcast from you to listen to. So here I am to fill that void. Many of you know every Wednesday I do a live show called crossing the streams to me and a bunch of my pals we get together and we talk about TV shows you should be watching crossing the streams originated on this very podcast episodes eight and 15 of live from Detroit, the Jeff Dwoskin show featured myself and my two good friends Ron lipid and Howard Rosner, we thought wouldn't it be fun just to get together and just record friends talking about shows that they love with hopes that the people listening would also take interest? Love those shows as well and check them out. Also, there's so many options out there. Everyone needs suggestions every day, um, somewhere or on Facebook and I see people saying, what should I be watching? I need a new show to watch. We went live almost a year ago invited my good pals, Bob Phillips and sounds Emilio to hilarious comedians to join me on the live show. We taped every episode you can check all the Live episodes out in their entirety on YouTube. But this special podcast this is made special for you. I hand picked three segments from the live show throughout the past year and I'm going to replay them in all their live goodness for you. So now via podcast, you just need your ears. You just need to tune in to get amazing TV watching suggestions. I know you're welcome. The first TV show we're gonna cover is from crossing the streams regular Howard Rosner fan favorite of the show Rosner is going to be talking about I think you should leave with Tim Robinson. Howard also discusses Tim Robertson's amazing show Detroiters like any live show. Everything starts out one way talking about the TV show and you never know where the conversations gonna go. You'll hear Howard's voice you'll hear other people's voices, it becomes a whole discussion. You may even hear us referring to people that are commenting on the show from the audience. It's live. It's fun. And here is I think you should leave it Tim Robinson as lead by TV watching afficionado Howard Rosner let's move on. We got a Tim Robinson love. Yeah, let's start with I think you can leave I think you should Well, actually,

I'm gonna I'm gonna go back and start with Detroiters. Yeah, I'm gonna turn teanaway And then I'll come back to the front part. Yeah. So I was preparing to do I think you can leave for this show. It reminded me so I think you can leave is a show by Tim Robinson. It's a sketch comedy show. And it reminded me why I fell in love with Tim Robbins comedy. In the first place was the show that was on a couple years ago. Two seasons called Detroiters. You can get it now on Comedy Central. It was the Comedy Central show, or Paramount plus Detroiters especially funny for those of us who live in here in Detroit because every show had ridiculously local references that were from our childhood. Ron Jeff and I just amazing references. But even without the references. I went back and started watching old Detroiters episodes the last couple of days. It's absolutely hysterical. Tim Robinson is an amazing writer. And then Sam Richardson, who was in Detroiters with him played Richard splat on Veep was the DJ guy in the office in office Christmas party. He was absolutely hysterical. He's starting to show up in more and more and more things because his delivery is superb. He's this quiet, soft, but intelligently funny delivery. That's amazing. Detroiters is an exceptional show. It's it is laugh out loud funny, and the two of them play off of each other so well. So I went back and watch the trailers and then I finished watching the new season. The second season of I think he can leave. Well, one of the most

writers of bunch of my friends were in just writers who are comics that did acting. So it was always It's fun to see them. It was filmed all around Detroit. I've never been more upset. I think when a show didn't get re picked up is when Comedy Central did not pick up Detroiters. Yeah. Like, I don't know what they were thinking. I mean, it was it was seriously one of their best shows. I always wondered why people outside of Detroit me.

Yeah, yeah, there's just just for as an example of kind of some of the humor. There's an episode, the title of the episode from the first season is named more Crim. Which it's a great episode in and of itself, more Krim was the news anchor from the 90s and early 2000s, that I'm the number one network local network here in Detroit. And they paint him as a guy that they have to go find in a pool hall or like a dirty pool hall bar to try and get him to do some stuff for him. It's just in a hysterical episode, in and of itself, but then even funnier, because it's so the like, they paint his character the opposite. Another episode, they they it's an episode called Rick mo horns, something in Dearborn, a city in Detroit, Rick Warren, the ex pistons great, who's a friend of mine that I worked with for a number of years. And, and they're making fun and making of a used car guy that we all grew up with his commercials. They Mel far superstar, and they're basically making fun of it. But it's again, it's just funny in and of itself. It's a great show. It's super well written. And the delivery of both those guys is great. Again, you flash to the new show, I think you can leave it sketch comedy. It's a little anthology sketch comedy, in that a lot of the sketches kind of even come back in future episodes as references. It's a lot of workplace jokes that are that are great. It's just, it's to me I think it's the best tape sketch comedy shows since Chappelle Show. It's not it's not on the level. I don't think it's on the left Chappelle Show might be the best sketch comedy show ever. You know, but this is, it's pretty smart. It's it's a great, you know, it's a great. There's so many memorable characters in the show. There's one guy who, you know, he like one one sketch where he's at a party, and it goes to hold the baby, and the baby cries when he holds it. And he goes in, he starts talking about how the baby must know that he used to be a piece of shit. But not anymore. And the whole kit fits gets to the point where everybody's going. We all know you used to be a piece of shit, but not anymore. The whole episode goes that direction. There's another one. That's a fake commercial for a movie or trailer for a movie, starring named crash more, this crotchety detective and the guy who plays the actor who plays scratch more is Santa Claus. And then they do, you know, panel show. And they go to ask him, How does it affect his work with Christmas, and he starts to take off his microphone and leave the interview. Because I was I made it very clear, I don't want to discuss Christmas. And it's just a brilliant show. Tim Robinson's a great writer. He was one of the few, I guess, that he was a featured player on Saturday Night Live. And he dropped from doing that to going to be a writer. And there's very few people that have gone that route. It's kind of been the other route. So he's, he's a brilliant writer. It's a great watch, and easy watch. I highly recommend,

they never really found a spot for him on Saturday live. He. So when you think of the name of the show, I think you should leave. It's the type of humor that this show is. That's how you feel about the main character in any one of these sketches. The shows are like 15 to 17 minutes each. And there's usually about, say three sketches in each one. So if you think about the guy at a party or something, and you're like, Oh, I just wish this guy would leave. That's the care. Every care main character and every one of these skits. Tim Robinson is very generous in the sense that it's not always him. That's the focus. He does let other people sometimes take leads or there's one where we're okay, I'll tell you this is from first season so if you haven't seen second season, there's a crash in a building a hot dog car crashes into a building. No, everyone, the whole crowd is standing around. No one will take responsibility for who crashed this hot dog Qmobile into this building, right. Tim Robinson is wearing a hot dog costume.

but the whole time he's playing it straight like who did this We got to find out who did this. Right? It's always like he will he refuses to take accountability or responsibility, but he's wearing a hot dog costume. Because that's, it's it is really, really funny. And even if like you're like, some of them don't hit right. Do I guarantee if you watch enough of the episodes, there'll be some where you laugh so hard. There's one scene in that one skit in the first season. I don't know that I've ever laughed so hard. It is scared. It was so funny. And the second season, there's one where the guy eats this hamburger of someone else's plate. And he's like, you're gonna tell, aren't you? We're never going to tell this story. You're going to tell. I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to film you say you want to kill the president? Why? Yes. And no one will ever see this video, as long as this story never leaks.

There's a lot like I said, there's a lot of workplace ones. There's one where he's sitting in his office eating lunch, and somebody comes in and says, Hey, Bob's got to leave on a flight. So we're moving the meeting up. And he's like, You can't do that. You can't move lunch. You can't just move lunch. So they're sitting in the meeting now in this boardroom, and he's wearing a suit. And you can see that he's got his hot dog in his sleeve. And he's winning over like, taking points for that. And again, it's a just wait, it's an example of a guy that you're like, I just wish you would leave. So a great watch. Like Jeff said, they're not even like we another thing we talked about is 30 minutes sitcoms, or 22 minutes when they stream they're even shorter than that. You can binge for the entire you could do two seasons in a night easily.

Great giant. It's like an hour after the third season.

Yeah, it's it's really funny. The fake commercials are great, and it's it's a great show, and Detroiters if you can. You know, the easiest thing to find Detroiters if you have an Apple TV just hit your series that Detroiters pops right up. It's an excellent show. So he Tim Robbins is really funny. I hope he goes on to do bigger and better things. But yeah, highly recommend. Highly recommended.

Alright, I hope you enjoyed that. That was from Episode 32. Howard Rosner, his review of I think you should leave and Detroiters up next, Ron LePay is going to take us through nine perfect strangers. This is from Episode 42 of crossing the streams. You'll also hear some of the guest stars from that episode, Tony Berardo and Jeffrey Calhoun chiming in with their opinions of the show as well enjoy Ron libbets review of nine Perfect Strangers

Ron Lippitt 12:50

minds nine perfect strangers. And it's interesting it shows here in the in the promo that you have from Prime Video, but actually it's on Hulu now. That is weird. So I'm not sure how that exactly happened. You know, I'll be honest, I am not a huge Nicole Kidman fan. I did. I did like the others and beyond because I do like scary flicks CRP, I know you, you're into that as well. And I thought the others was well done. But other than other than that there, I can't think of many films that she's done Nicole Kidman that that I really get excited about. And I was particularly that Deza thunder who she looked good. I mean, but come on, you know so you know when I heard about this show and heard that she she was portraying a Russian so now she's she's Nicole Kidman now with a Russian accent. I was really dubious about the effectiveness of of her acting ability in this role. And I'll just say I was wrong. I was wrong. She She is excellent in this role. She for those of you who don't know the storyline, Nicole Kidman runs a self help camp that basically that people go to it's not necessarily like for for drug addiction or whatnot. It's for people to kind of go find themselves. But what you find out early in the story is that she has a very unorthodox way of managing her clients. She pairs together her clients in a very specific chemistry designed to extract all kinds of outcomes that you hadn't expected on the front end of this and that's why the title of the of the show nine Perfect Strangers is just that she puts nine perfect people together and designs outcomes. Like I said you wouldn't expect second to this. I just will say the talents of Melissa McCarthy news, no balance. She's executive producer of this show. I don't know how her and and Nicole Kidman got together but I'll just say this. She is so freaking talented. And she is such an excellent actor in everything she does. And her role as a as a screenwriter is excellent in the show and she's very believable as a wounded person seeking seeking health through this process. And I just have to say she's the star of this show as great as Nicole Kidman is as Marsha The Star Russian, Melissa McCarthy and her character just really steals the show. And I will just say one other thing. I was never a big body kind of alley fan. I didn't know much about him. Frankly, it wasn't that I was against them or didn't. I just didn't know much about him. He is also excellent in this show, and very believable. And I will tell you that there is a relationship that develops in terms of the characters between Tati can evaluate and Melissa McCarthy and their interplay between the two of them, is worth the price of admission for this show. So I'm only I'm six episodes in it's it's, I believe, nine episodes for the first season. I am super enjoying this right now. It's a little dark. It's a little freaky. There's some, there's some, you know, kind of secondary elements to the storyline, which are a little out there. But the overall story of nine people coming to heal themselves. Under the guidance of Marsha, the Russian is a fan tastic storyline and I highly recommend it on Hulu. These are typically 45 to 60 minute episodes. They run by really quickly is there it's it's easy to binge. They have been dropping one episode per week. But now like I said, I think they're I think they're through all nine now. So you can you can probably binge it now. And I've really enjoyed it. It kind of took me by surprise.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:20

Let's let's go deeper. Cuz I know Tony actually wanted to talk about this one as well. And I've seen there's eight episodes and Tony, Tony, you've seen all eight.

he wins. If you don't, it's not a big deal. The that's why we're all here. Yeah, it's it's meant to give different opinions. I've watched the first four episodes.

Tony Berardo 16:38

Well, let's put it this way. When Jeff was like, Hey, Tony, you want to come on this week? I was like, Yeah, I know what I'm talking about perfect strangers. Ah, my first thing and he's like,

Ron Lippitt 16:47

can't do we should both talk about I mean, that's we could that's the thing that I

Jeff Dwoskin 16:51

just wanted him to have enough time on here. You get it without the car. Yeah.

Tony Berardo 16:54

But the reason why I'm excited to talk about this, and I'm glad it's being discussed is I was I agree 100% Everything you just said wrong. 110%. Probably very similar to like, Lassa with with Apple like I would pay. In fact, I would even dare to say if this was a movie, if this was a two and a half, three hour movie, even though it's eight episodes longer, but I would pay to go to the movie theater and watch this thing. And I don't do that a lot. Yeah, but I thought it was incredible because I was with you the same way. Nicole Kidman, I sold the series she did with Reese Witherspoon before this on HBO. Little Big Things live on a big lies. Yeah. And that was really good too. And it kind of reminded me a lot of it just the dark, ominous little bit of comedy, but it was, you know, a lot of character building a lot of twists and turns. And what I even was more impressed with this is that it kind of takes it takes a I don't want to say there's clinics out there that are exactly like Matias because there's not one there's a lot of clinics in the country right now that are testing. I don't want to go too much into it. Yeah, that are testing this type of practice. Yes. That to me was even more intriguing. Because when I heard she was doing that, I was like, Oh, yes. Hold on.

Ron Lippitt 18:03

I'm glad you didn't give it away. Because I don't I didn't want to give that away. Because I think that's it. No, no spoilers, but I agree with everything you just said.

Tony Berardo 18:12

Yeah, it's a huge part. And again, I agree with you the the character building between a lot of different characters throughout is incredible. But it's um, it's a very surprising show, because there is a lot of humor. But it's more dark than anything. Yeah. But I think by the time you will, I watched all of them in three days. I waited until last week, and I watched them all. And then this week was the final one, I think. So yeah, I did them all. And I was super impressed with it. I don't even need to do another season, even though they may or may not have set it up for it. But I just thought overall was probably one of the best shows that I've seen in quite some time. And

Ron Lippitt 18:49

I'm really glad to hear you say that, you know, and I and I shouldn't have I should have mentioned Michael Shannon to plays to the character Napoleon. And he's i For those of you who don't know Michael Shannon, I mean, he is a terrific actor. I first got him in the Leonardo DiCaprio movie, Revolutionary Road, Revolutionary Road. So it's called. Yeah, you know, and he played he's my mind stole that movie with one. One epic scene with Leonardo DiCaprio. So as soon as I saw him in this show, I was like, this is a serious actor, this guy

Jeff Dwoskin 19:21

that he's Zod from.

Geoffrey D Calhoun 19:24

Yeah, yeah. Well, and he was also special to

Tony Berardo 19:28

wal k Empire if he was in Boardwalk Empire.

Ron Lippitt 19:30

That's exactly it's funny

Jeff Dwoskin 19:31

thing of him is. He's kind of a goofy dad. He's a kind

Ron Lippitt 19:36

of dad. He's talking about him in the Iceman was he was he in the Iceman,

Tony Berardo 19:40

I span two which was incredible. I didn't see it story. Yeah. And a true story, obviously. But he's just yeah, he's a very well rounded actor and man to see him change through every character to see them change. Melissa McCarthy I agree that she's she stole the show. I couldn't. I can't imagine because now every time I've seen her the last few movies she's been on like us. You ruined Ghostbusters. Like that only thing I can think of. But in this I have a totally new respect for her, not screenwriter and

Ron Lippitt 20:08

she she's just so incredibly talented and I frankly she's so talented that I was worried she would overpower the rest of the cast. But she doesn't. And I think she does. She fits in perfectly.

Jeff Dwoskin 20:19

I have a couple couple observations. One is I was gonna mention Bobby kind of L two, it seems in every episode, while the acting is solid throughout the day deliver monologues that are just frickin ridiculous. Like at the end of Episode Three Michael Shannon does one pillar about it. You know just about his family and break through that he has absolutely unbelievable. It's just like, you can't believe it, because the character up to that point, Bobby cannibal and I believe it's Episode Four kind of has a revelation. And it's like, you're like, oh my god, Melissa McCartney. They do her kind of upfront. And I agree. She's so good. It's funny how comedic actors can tend to be almost better dramatic actors. Sometimes when you think about like Robin Williams, Jim, like Rob Williams. Yeah. Any of those that when they do serious sometimes it's it's better than any serious actor. And so that's, that's always fun. But the interesting thing, though, to me the big winner, if there's a winner of nine Perfect Strangers, it's Manny and I'm going to just siento who was from the good place? Yeah, who I in my brain had just had in my head that he was just some, like, just some idiot because that's the character that he plays on the place brilliantly. But in this one, he does not have that tone of voice. No, we're looking dude. And I'm like, alright, this guy's gonna get like, tons of rolls now. This was the best movie you could have made? I don't even I'm like, Oh, you are not a one. No guy. This is your you can definitely do other things. This guy. It's the Bradley Cooper Wedding Singer, our wedding crashers moments. That's right. I never said before, like, Oh, this guy can do it. This guy's a little better than we thought he was. He goes other can open up to other I

Geoffrey D Calhoun 22:06

am. I actu ally really enjoyed. I'm gonna butt in here. Yeah, I watched it. I caught the whole show. Luke Evans was fantastic as almost the show's antagonist. Yeah. And he brought a really nice critical eye to what she was doing. And then the challenge there was Can she win him over, which I thought was a really great way of driving conflict and engaging in the show. And then I actually really liked Sumaira weaving she's, she's her careers really blowing up. And to see her play, this type of character is unusual. And so kind of playing as that. That shallow tick tock girl that is doing everything for the likes and posts and then realizes how empty her life is, is awesome. I mean, I think that's why this show really hits people is because they have so many different archetypes of people and their struggles, that they're able to kind of play out those universal truths that can grab you in a different way than it will grab me. And we can see a little bit of ourselves inside of these characters and thus we become invested. Because if we can watch them survive the traumas they've been through, then it provides us hope as well as from the viewer. So it can be a very cathartic experience.

Ron Lippitt 23:27

Can I ask a question? Did you sense any from summer weaving? Any of just a little Annie Murphy from shits Creek a little bit? Oh, she was tall. Yeah, okay. That was my only criticism, I guess.

Geoffrey D Calhoun 23:42

Sure.

Jeff Dwoskin 23:42

She's beautiful. I don't know if any Murphy was if it's fair, they'd say it was Annie Murphy. I don't know that Annie Murphy. Did it first either. That's true. Yeah, that type of character. Do love it's fine. I'm glad you I love Jeff. Jeff brings a great writing point of view to the to the conversation. I did love. I'm glad you mentioned it. Luke Evans relationship friendship with Graceman Pat Patton.

Geoffrey D Calhoun 24:12

Zoey. Yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 24:14

I like her strong relationship. It was it was really cool. Tiffany Boone by the way, was killer in the hunters with isn't that what it was called? With Gino? That's the hunters one she was foxy

Tony Berardo 24:29

she was the last thing I will say about nine Perfect Strangers is this was I can't think of another series where every episode I laughed. I was shocked and I got Misty in every episode, person. And that doesn't happen a lot where you know you actually feel for these characters. Like you said Jeffrey, where was sometimes just like the Muslim, Melissa McCarthy, one in particular was like, That one really got me but that monologue got me each time and it was and it's crazy because they're only 45 minute episodes, whatever. But You know it's in the course of 10 days I think they were at this retreat so write them grow into push it and eight episodes. All those characters is incredible writing so it's very impressive.

Jeff Dwoskin 25:13

Cool All right, that was a solid recommendation from Ron lipid and gang nine Perfect Strangers catch the full episode that included that review episode 42 of crossing the streams. Catch it on YouTube. Up next, we have McCartney 321. on Hulu with all the chitter chatter about get back on Disney plus, thought I'd take us back to Episode 34 Where I discussed McCartney 321. Okay, so hey, so I watched this show called McCartney 321. on Hulu. It's a Hulu original. Did any of you guys haven't watched this? I did not. So what this show is, this is literally kind of just six episodes. It could have been like one giant three hour kind of thing. But they cleverly and smartly broke it down into like 30 minute chunks, which to me makes something so much easier to watch. So for those who don't know, Paul McCartney, who was in this band, in the late 60s, called the Mongols right, beetle, they base it on the monkeys. And so Paul McCartney, obviously one of the biggest names in music, and just the Beatles being one of the biggest bands of all time, it's a conversation with him. And Rick Rubin, Rick Rubin, has been called one of the most, you know, important producers, music producers in the past one years, was named once one of the most influential people in the world. So he was a co president of Columbia Records, he co founded Def Jam Records, right. And he's like, he was known for kind of doing one of Johnny cashes. Like, I'm usually known for a million things. He's done a million things, but like, he's worked with almost every major artists in the world. He did one of my favorite Neil Diamond things, he had a way of working with the musicians to kind of get them down to like their, their core sound he's just a machine with, with how to do it. So it's basically just a conversation between him and Paul McCartney, most of the conversation there, this mix board. And so what they're talking about is the songs. But like the minutiae detail in the songs of which I have to admit, I don't, I don't appreciate as much as I'm sure a lot of people would like, for example, one time I went into an appliance store to buy speakers, you know, like, listen, these are the $500 speakers. I mean, these are the ones you can you can just get for free, because we just throw them out. Mm hmm. Yeah, I can't tell the difference.

Guys, just just to give you an idea, I mean, just a baseline, but to your team here. Yeah. So there was sitting there and they'd be talking about like, how he would play the bass or vagina wasn't just about him. It was John Lennon and Ringo and their influences, but they had the they were sitting there for a lot of it at the mix board, he'd take away all the sound, or you take away all the instruments, it would just be the music, we would just he'd played change how different things came together. And Paul would talk about the stories of how they would mix things together and how they were going for certain sounds and how they would come in and sort of like this one type of song and like, change it right in the middle, and all that kind of stuff. So it's the each episode sort of has like its own little theme. The first episode is sort of like just the early days and going through some of the stories and I do have to say, I've watched a lot of things over the years on the Beatles. And I there was only a couple of stories that I felt were like repeats, you know, I mean, where oh, I've heard this story before, you did tell the story, which I didn't know the story. I knew the fact of when Eric Clapton came in for a While My Guitar Gently Weeps, because George Harrison had written that. And George Harrison originally wasn't a writer for The Beatles, but he grew to be a writer, and arguably grew to be one of the probably the best writers in music. And so but he knew he needed aircraft. And he probably didn't realize he was stealing his wife, but he knew he needed air cut to come in. So he was he brought him in to do the guitar, because it was the music was more important than what he he could have done it. Right. And so there's this telling stories like that, even though I don't think he's credited. He might be credited on the album, I'm not sure. But then they talked about just there's a whole episode just on a musical influences and sort of the innovations that they had. Because the Beatles were known for like doing like just some crazy stuff that no one else had done with the sounds and mixing and it was the first time I ever heard Paul McCartney and I'm sure he has I'm not saying but like, say PHS name. He told I think it was in episode three or four where he they talked about Ringo Ringo I have to admit didn't realize was the oldest Beatle He's older than all of them didn't realize that he was the most mature musician of them all. And by just happenstance, P best as a shop one day, they get Ringo Starr to come in. And the way Paul was talking about Ringo Starr playing behind him, George and John was it was like, all of a sudden, boom, this made the band like it was like, Ringo was what elevated them to the stet. So what they knew they could be, then that's, that's one of the reasons they're like, We got to get this guy is making part of our band. And it's funny because I never, I don't know how you guys already growing up with the Beatles. It was always John and Paul, then kind of George. And then Ringo was just a fun drummer, who you really, you always thought he was just saying before. But it's from hearing Paul tell this story, it was fascinating to hear him talk about it, how Ringo was like this, you know, just rock when it came to what eventually became what we all know. And love is the Beatles, you know, then it kind of talks about George Martin and his impact on the band, and how much influence he had if they considered him the fifth Beatle in terms of how putting the music together. And a lot of the different things that they did it was George Martin that came to him and said for yesterday, let's put let's put the strings on it. But you know, that said that they were totally against that at first. And he always said that it was like the hazy year that they had this this real relationship and connection that was very kind of special and kind of made the magic there. We do cover a lot of John's stuff and some George songs too. So it's not just a deep dive on Paul's stuff when they do like they talk about the the might die or some of his solo stuff. They do kind of go into that as well just in terms of McCartney, but they always kind of come back to the Beatles. And then yeah, and then you know there's it talks a lot about about his his relationship with John Lennon and how he how Paul McCartney became the basis the the bass player for the band, not originally they were all guitar players, but the other two wouldn't do it. So he did and then ultimately became one of the best bass players like ever. And the funny thing is the guy Paul McCartney can't read music like they would he would play it and someone else would write it down. He's still to this day. Read music and or write it. It's it's fascinating because he can play every single instrument. He can do you know, when he did the original McCartney album, after the Beatles broke up, he did everything. He played every album, engineered the whole album, put everything together, and then named it McCartney because John Lennon named his Lennon

they don't they don't talk about it now. But if you go back to that original McCartney album, there's a picture of two Beatles having sex on it. You know, basically, basically, if the Beatles type thing

Sal Demilio 32:54

when they're when they're at the mixing board. did Paul say we need more cowbell that he said

Jeff Dwoskin 33:01

got a fever. So, yeah, this is I haven't seen it. But I know that I'm gonna mention this to my wife and I and my wife is a Beatles fanatic. Just so just, you know, a few years ago, I was fortunate enough with my wife to do a Beatles a private Beatles tour of Liverpool with an expert. And we were able to go to all these great locations and get the inside stories. So we went on Penny Lane. We stood in the roundabout. We went into the barber shop just and he walked us through the lyrical writing Eleanor Rigby, Eleanor Rigby, his grave, where they used to hang out across the street from the school where John and Paul met. And that's where they would go to smoke and hang out. And you know, he would just say all the lonely people were all these random graves. It was the coolest thing. And then of course, I proposed to my wife in John Lennon's childhood bedroom that he grew up in so so I'm gonna have to watch the show for sure. Jeff, that's awesome. It you made me think of it, maybe it's something I'll review down the road. But another one. It sounds similar with him and Rick Rubin to an iMac to remember the name but one of my favorite music documentaries is Jimmy Page, the edge from YouTube and Jack White, the three of them sitting there playing guitar and talking about playing guitar, and then talking about some of the key parts, have some of their songs and they're each trying to learn how to properly play the others. I love stuff like that because you get really into to how they it was how these iconic songs were created. Like, you know, it's it's really cool to see that

Sal Demilio 34:49

they're all you guys got James Corden car karaoke with Paul McCartney. Did

Jeff Dwoskin 34:53

you see that? That I did. So we were there. We were in Liverpool. Like Two months after that was aired on James Corden show. Also, for example, Paul McCartney's childhood house that he walked through with James Corden, the woman, the woman who was there in the house, because it's part of the net, it's a national museum. Basically, she was the person who was there when we went and visited the house. We actually talked to her about that. She had been there for years doing that and had never met him. And then him and James Corden just show up one day to a barber shop. The barber shop that they go into is right on Penny Lane. We were there for that too. Yeah, it's pretty pretty cool.

All right. That was McCartney, three to one between that nine perfect strangers. I think you should leave in Detroit. So you've got a lot of homework, a lot of TV binge watching to dive into remember, you can watch all the episodes of crossing the streams on YouTube. Just search out the Jeff Dwoskin show, subscribe to our channel. Tweet me at Jeff Dwoskin show let me know how you like this bonus episode. Can't wait to hear your feedback. I'm looking forward to bring you more bonus crossing the stream episodes and until then go cross some of your own streams. And by that I mean turn on the TV and watch watch all the stuff we suggested. And I'll see you next time.

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