#255 A Bad Batch of Crossing The Streams (Bonus Ep68) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

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Jeff Dwoskin 0:29

Hey, oh, it is Jeff Dwoskin, your host of classic conversations and your guide through this bonus episode of crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams? Glad you asked. It's where we answer the universal question. I just finished binge watching something and now I gotta watch something else. We have come to the right place. This bonus episode is three segments from our weekly live show. On our YouTube channel. There's over 120 hours of binge watching suggestions for you to take and but right now you don't have to go anywhere. We're sending three of those suggestions right into your ears from Live episode 8296 and 111. The great imposter and me ESPN documentary. I'm Barry Bremen, the bad batch. And truth be told special guests Tony Berardo and Tim Segal join us today. We're gonna kick off with Tim and the Bad Batch from Live episode. 111 Take it away, Tim. Let's do the bad batch. That's me. Yeah, you Tim. Yeah,

Tim Beisiegel 1:37

yeah. So for those who don't know, I'm, I'm a huge Star Wars fan always have been a huge Star Wars fan. And so anytime there's anything new Star Wars, I'm excited to sit down and watch it like every Wednesday morning when Mandalorian and Bad Batch releases. I sit down in my living room with a cup of coffee and all the world is all quiet and watch my Star Wars. Watch my shows so that nobody can bother me. So yeah, I was very excited this morning was the season finale of season two for the bad batch. It was a dual episode release. So I won't get into many spoilers about that because it's the day of the release. But so this was created by Dave Filoni, who is who I firmly believe with Jon Favreau and his side are here to save Star Wars from imploding upon itself and continuously bad story writing. These guys are doing a really good job and the character build and all the things that they're doing. This, of course, is an animated series. And Dave Filoni was the guy that was basically doing Clone Wars, he's done Star Wars Rebels, a bunch of other things come up with some really cool creations and character creations and stories. One of the things that I liked most about the bad batch and I like about Star Wars Rebels and things in Clone Wars is that these animated series helped fill in the in betweens between the movies and help fix some of the plot holes and issues that some of the movies had. And you know, they call it it's called retconning. They come back in and they're like, Okay, well, this happened over here. But this happened over here. So we have to make these two things match. How do we do that? Well, we have this animated series over here that tells a really good story and helps explain why these things happen. And so that's what they did with with the Bad Batch bad bad was introduced in season seven of Clone Wars as clone for us. 99. And then they was later on sadly, they call themselves the Bad Batch because they were a batch of mistaken clones that turned out bad, I guess. But yeah, so what they started doing is they started adding background detail and everything. So episode, one of the bad batch even has ties to Star Wars Rebels. And then it kind of takes you in through there you meet a character from in episode one of season one that you meet later in Star Wars Rebels. And so it's very kind of cool. They're introducing a lot of things. Today's episodes of the bad batch has a really cool tie in to the movie Rogue One. And yeah, it's just very cool how they're doing this and how they're building it up. And the best thing for me is that I love Star Wars and I'll sit down and watch it like honestly, I'm on my like, I just finished my a three, eight or nine three watch of Star Wars Clone Wars the entire series, I finished watching Kenobi literally an hour ago, I was watching that again. It's Star Wars has always been my comfort, jam. And so being able to sit here and watch and see these all these new stories get created is very cool for me, especially because unlike some of the animated series, like Bad Batch, the episodes are quick intakes are 21 to 27 minutes long. And so it's something that I can squeeze in while I'm in the midst of doing something else. And I'm still able to get the gist of the story I'm still able to get the understanding of what's going on who they're trying to tie in this into or what they're what they're doing or you know what characters they're introducing and why and all those things. But for a Star Wars fan if you haven't you know then some Star Wars fans are like well, I'm not gonna watch cartoon That's for kids. I hate to break it to Skippy All Star Wars is made for kids. George Lucas himself has said so so just be a kid enjoy the show and enjoy the fact that they're fixing some of the biggest issues in Star Wars like using the rise of Skywalker somehow Palpatine returned gotta hate even saying that makes me nauseous anyway. Yeah. So that's a nerd. I am. I am. I'm a horrible nerd. It's the way it works.

Jeff Dwoskin 5:07

They're dealing with that. And Mandalorian also, aren't they?

Tim Beisiegel 5:09

Yeah, they are. And, and I think what's going to happen here and I have so many nerd theories that would make Fred's head spin about this, I think we're gonna start seeing some of these shows kind of blending in together, where because they're running parallel storylines, where they, but they have to, in order to be able to introduce this story to this story to make this show work. And so I think in season three of bad bachelor, you're gonna see some of that where you're gonna start seeing some introduction to some possibly some of the Mandalorian characters, and a few more of the few more of the Star Wars Rebels characters. So it's kind of exciting. So if you have a problem with animated shows, because you think they're for kids, think again, if you sit down to watch Star Wars, Clone Wars, please get past season one. Season two starts right off with like a beheading or to trust me it's not for kids season. Yeah, the bad bash

Jeff Dwoskin 5:57

said it was for kid.

Larry Roberts 5:59

Yeah. beheading. You know, I mean, kids a lot from beheadings.

Unknown Speaker 6:04

It's not blood and gore, beheadings. It's just you know, they show a body and there's like, no head. They're

Larry Roberts 6:08

just rolling the screen real quick. Yeah, pretty

Tim Beisiegel 6:12

much. It looks like a pumpkin rolling off to the side. It'll be fine. They've seen wares of Halloween. So anyway, but yeah, just sit down. Watch it. It's very enjoyable. I think each season of the bad batch has tween I think like 12 or 15 episodes, it's not a long watch. It's very easy. The longest Watch out of all of them. season one episode one I think was like an hour and 20 minutes because they were packing a lot into the story to build up while you needed to watch the Bad Batch on Disney plus, go check it out the only place you can get it right now.

Jeff Dwoskin 6:41

Which Star Wars cartoon was Bo Catan from?

Tim Beisiegel 6:44

She was in Clone Wars and then you'll see her again in Rebels.

Jeff Dwoskin 6:47

So that's a good example of animation. And so was was the guy in Mandalorian Season Two the kind of the gun shot guy, Cade.

Larry Roberts 6:58

Oh, what was his name?

Jeff Dwoskin 6:59

That weird alien? Yeah, it was a cool alien. It was kind of like a Clint Eastwood alien

Larry Roberts 7:04

was coming out of his campaign. Yeah, bang. There we go.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:07

Yeah, they're definitely merging. Yeah,

Tim Beisiegel 7:11

it was in both as well. Both both Clone Wars and rebels. And all of the Stormtroopers

Jeff Dwoskin 7:15

are Boba Fett. So they could bring in any of these clone war or people right? Because that's the actor,

Tim Beisiegel 7:23

right? Yeah. Right to Morrison. So yeah, if they brought if they bring in different characters, but all those are boys by Dee Bradley Baker. So if it's animated series, they you know, it was the animated version. They're gonna use Dee Bradley Baker. If it's live action they're gonna use tomorrow, Morrison.

Fredd Carroll 7:38

Tim, does your wife enjoy it?

Unknown Speaker 7:40

My wife likes

Fredd Carroll 7:43

just saying no, just saying.

Larry Roberts 7:45

No, you can't just It's okay. You're trying to

Tim Beisiegel 7:48

watch Indiana Jones together. She does not watch Star Wars all that much with me.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:52

Fair enough. So she lets you do it. That's what makes her an angel. Yeah.

Tim Beisiegel 7:57

She puts up with me that she's a saint. And

Fredd Carroll 7:59

you'll have plenty of time. If you're a Cubs fan, you'll have plenty of time to watch since they're gonna suck. There's

Tim Beisiegel 8:04

actually I'm only wearing a Cubs hat because the last time I was on here, Jeff accused me of trying to steal his look. So I put down my Detroit hat and I picked up my cubs hat. And I'm like, Well, I'm not stealing anybody's luck tonight. So Screw you, Jeff. No, I'm just kidding.

Jeff Dwoskin 8:19

It's funny because the only other baseball cap I have is a Cubs hat. That's the only other place I've seen baseball Wrigley Field in the bleachers. And there's really no other way to see baseball.

Unknown Speaker 8:32

I tried so hard and yet I still failed. All right.

Jeff Dwoskin 8:39

All right. Thank you, Tim. That was the bad batch. Up next truth be told friend of the show, Tony Berardo is going to take us through this podcast drama. Yes. To get a little into only murders in the building from Live episode. 82. Take it away, Tony. All right. Let's get to truth be told this is Tony Berard is going to take us through this one.

Tony Berardo 9:03

How's my mic? You good?

Jeff Dwoskin 9:04

Yeah, you sound much better now. Yeah, check one,

Unknown Speaker 9:06

two, check. One, two.

Tony Berardo 9:08

So truth be told. So truth be told, I'm gonna get into this. But I will say I was hesitant to watch this been on my watch list for quite some time. They're in season two. Now. I forget when they started filming. But I want to say it was like maybe 2018 or 2018. So we've been kind of one on one. But the wife wanted to really watch this. And I was not about it. Because didn't look interesting, until I actually read the synopsis and started diving into it. And apparently we ran out of other things to watch on Apple. So we're like, let's just let's give it a shot. Right. Has anybody seen this? By the

Jeff Dwoskin 9:38

way? No, no? Nope.

Tony Berardo 9:39

So you have Yeah, Jeff, you might be interested in this. I kind of liked it because it was all about this girl who runs a podcast, which is interesting, but I mean, the actual synopsis is the murderer that propelled a true crime podcast. Hey, my synopsis I don't know. What was that? I don't know. Sorry. Alright,

Larry Roberts 10:00

guilty. Rosin,

Tony Berardo 10:02

me language. Um, so she finds new evidence in this case that she drummed up. And spoiler alert, the person that was in prison that she did this case on this true crime is Aaron Paul. So if you're a breaking bad fan, you get to see him in prison. Finally, different shows breaking bad though, which is, it's kind of a mind F because you see him in prison. You're like, oh, for meth, he got put on a weight, different show. So it's confusing at first, but it was kind of cool to see because the entire again, premises, she's a podcaster. She's like, the most well known podcast from the world. She did this story. And she thinks 20 years later, all this new evidence started coming up, like a lot of crime is due right now. There's more technology and stuff. So it comes up and she's like, you know, I feel a little guilty. I think he was wrongfully accused. And then they go through these, you know, eight 910 episodes of her figuring out different things and leading her on, you know, a wild goose chase here and then a lot of shenanigans going on the acting I wasn't too impressed with and a lot of it I Octavia Spencer, I think is her name if I'm pronouncing it right. But she's a good actress, but it was a little you could tell was out of her comfort zone. And me I was so irritated the entire time. She was doing the podcast, because she's doing it lifetime as she's finding this new information. But the mic was like this far away the whole time. So I was like that right there. I'm like,

Bob Phillips 11:27

gosh, as a podcast would hurt. She wasn't using her default mic.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:33

Said she was Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 11:37

And then had him so fun to mute for 20 minutes.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:41

But I emphatically

Tony Berardo 11:43

but I mean, Rotten Tomatoes. Give. I think it's 31% I'm looking at now. And it's seven out of 10 66% of Google users like this shows to the ratings are not that good. But I personally, I'm liking it. It's in season two now. Now it has Kate Hudson, if I had to give it a cliff notes, I would say it's kind of like a high production value of SVU. And maybe blacklist, a little bit of blacklist in there. But I like how it looks kind of set in 2020. You could feel it. It's very different. It's all internet, social media. That type of thing is kind of driving these crimes and then able to solve it is all based off it so I'm enjoying it. I think it's worth the watch. It's on apple plus Have you got it on again. I'm in season two. I haven't finished it yet. Season two is definitely a little bit more squirrely, I'm digging it. They ramped up their budget a little bit. So it's looking pretty good. So yeah, what

Jeff Dwoskin 12:35

did you think about this show? Yeah, I

Larry Roberts 12:37

liked season one quite a bit. I mean, just because being a podcaster and watching another show about podcasting I mean to me it's kind of a only murderers in the building but a drama seems very similar concept there but just totally different genre.

Fredd Carroll 12:52

And this is becoming something now this podcasting because this that new movie vengeance That's out he's a podcaster. And I think we're gonna see a flood of this in the book world and movie world.

Tony Berardo 13:04

Yeah, we're on. I mean, even think this was based off a book, but it wasn't a book based on podcasting. And think they added that it might have been blogger or something and they changed it. So it's definitely making podcasting is making a shift to change things. So it's interesting. Yeah, that's probably a better way to put I didn't finish that on Hulu. I watched a little bit of it with Steve Martin and Martin Short. I just couldn't get into it. Selena

Jeff Dwoskin 13:26

I tried as well last week I may agree with Jeff I mean it's I love the show love the murders in the building is amazing,

Larry Roberts 13:34

too is am not really feeling Season Two as much but season one was greatness.

Tony Berardo 13:39

I gave it two episodes maybe I need to give it more I just it for me it was a little slow and I just I don't know

Bob Phillips 13:44

why why is it called only murders in the building. The whole thing is wrong from the jump

Jeff Dwoskin 13:50

because there's a line from the show where they they Wow, Grandpa

Unknown Speaker 13:53

Have you always been this crotchety or am I really

Jeff Dwoskin 14:00

Yeah. They live in a building and there's a murderer in the building. And then they want to do the podcast and one of them says something like well, I bet if we only do murders in the building

Fredd Carroll 14:13

so realistic because they're making money after Episode Two

Jeff Dwoskin 14:19

was their friend that sponsored it and they also ended up on my Jimmy Kimmel and one one minute which this is probably a good time to announce Larry and I's new True Crime podcasts that we're launching.

Larry Roberts 14:31

Yes. Murderers and crossing the streams. Only six of someone's going to die tonight.

Unknown Speaker 14:40

Hopefully it'll be me.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:43

All right. So truth be told watch it or don't watch it season one. It sounds like we love

Tony Berardo 14:48

if you got an apple plus I would say watch it. This is not I always like to judge streaming or shows based off of if I would actually buy the streaming service because of the show. I wouldn't buy apple plus because of the show. But I would definitely watch it if you have it for sure

Jeff Dwoskin 15:06

All right, thank you Tony. Plenty of podcast shows for you to catch up on and binge there. And our final segment for this bonus episode from Live episode 96 The great imposter and me a berry Bremen story with oh gee host Howard Rosner. Take it away. Rhys. I'm excited to hear about this one. Yeah. Barry Bremen the great impostor.

Howard Rosner 15:30

Yeah. So this is an ESPN 30 for 30. It's available streaming on ESPN, probably ESPN on demand as well. So Barry Bremen, the great imposter. So Barry is for those of us here in the northern suburbs of Detroit. He's really relevant to us because Barry fro was from a city called West Bloomfield, which is right around all of us. I knew Barry a little bit his oldest son, who is part of the documentary played baseball with my brother. So I knew Barry a little bit and everybody knew about Barry. It's really a documentary set in kind of, there's kind of three I don't want to say parts but three kind of themes do it in two major parts of the story. The first is the Barry Bremen story, which if you don't know, if I mentioned it, you may know just Oh yeah, that kind of thing. Very, in 1979 was with his buddies. That year at Pontiac Silverdome, the NBA All Star game was going to be played and his two buddies bet him that he couldn't get on the floor in the All Star game as a player. So working with his wife, he managed to get a Sacramento Kings Otis bird song, you're just the Sacramento Kings uniform. And he hid in a bathroom during halftime. And after halftime, his wife knocked on the door to let him know the players were coming out. And in this real Sacramento Kings uniform. He walked out onto the court into the warm up layup lines at halftime with NBA players. So he was eventually caught afterwards. I mean, it's it's hysterical. They have footage of the broadcast of Brent Musburger coming back from timeout saying there's a guy taking warm up that I don't know who that is. It's great that started a career of bigger and bigger that's and making it for him being an imposter at events. They had some background footage that had never been seen before. From a lot of these, a Dallas He went as a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader onto the sidelines of a Dallas Cowboys home game. He went into the outfield to shag flies for a Major League Baseball, all star game. He became friends with some of the players because they're like, I don't know who you are. But whatever they didn't care was an all star game, football games, hockey games, all kinds of things he got involved with the capper probably was, if you all remember this, he went up on stage to accept an Emmy for Betty Thomas from Hill Street Blues, who had won he walked up on stage and said, I'm so sorry, but he couldn't be here. But I accept this on her behalf and walked off stage and Betty, they showed Betty Thomas in the so they go to commercial. They arrest him obviously. And later. I know in interviews they had asked him why he stopped doing it as he was getting closer to 60 years old. And he said well, tasers and 911 kind of changed his mind. They don't say they don't check or ask anymore. They tase you, and then drag you off. So so that's really one part of the story that's very funny, and entertaining and great. And that's the story everybody knew. They talked about his relationship with his kids and how they all accepted this and how he was as a dad. And then the other kind of funny story. The second part that I kind of mentioned, is the dough is narrated by Jeremy shad, who's one of the big ESPN journalists and his dad Dick shop is one of the most famous sports journalists of all time, and amazing sports journalist, truly sincere, straightforward, different kind of old school sports journalist. Well, the day after the NBA All Star game that got him on the Today Show to which Dick shop was on doing sports stories. And he interviewed Barry, and after that he had buried became very close. They went on family vacations together, it's insinuated because both of them have since passed away. It's insinuated by Jeremy and talking to talking to Barry's wife interviewed for the documentary that Dick may have played a big part in helping get access to some of these sports events over the years. It was too easy for him to just find his way out in the field at the MLB All Star game. So it's definitely implicated that pickup so that was the second thing, but then kind of all of a sudden in the middle Love it, there's a transition of the whole story in life. And it becomes a storyline about these adult 40s 50s, who are talking about how they really started to discover as they grew older that they didn't look like act like feel like seemed like a natural part of being the offspring of their parents or their other siblings potentially. And they all really thought about that some, and a couple of them decided in the advent of 23andme, to go out on their own, and do their own genetic testing. And it all came back. And then some of them challenged their parents and their parents admitted that they were insemination babies, that their parents had gone to get gone to sperm banks to get the sperm because they couldn't produce naturally. So as doing a part of it, as you may or may not know, you can start to get qualifying information of where your DNA matches up with other people who have also gone on to use the service. And some of these people started connecting Oh, one woman became sort of the leader of the pack, it started with seven or eight. And they started talking in a private Facebook group. And they started putting information together. And they all shared a very similar story. They started doing some research and hired a private investigator and came to discover that the genetics and who else they connected to that it really had to be from one area which was the Detroit area, and they did a little bit more research. And they finally discovered based off of some information that it had to be from Barry Bremen. So they ended up approaching the they found some of the siblings, very kids, and they approached them with certified letters. And one of the certified letters, the first one made it to his daughter and son in law. And at the time the his wife happened to be there as well when this letter arrived, and the daughter was like, What's this mom, and the mom was just very straightforward and said, you know, your dad was so great. And we had struggled, they had struggled to have their middle son had cerebral palsy, they had struggled at other times with her having miscarriages. And she said, You know, one of your dad's best friends was a doctor who said, You're a great healthy, good looking athletic guy. Smart. What would you feel about making a little extra money? And he said, Sure. And really, you know, the mom said, one of the main reasons was we had struggled so much helping, you know, we Yes, we were making money. But really the main reason we did it was if we had the opportunity to help families going through the same type of struggles to create their own family that we had, we saw that as a blessing that we were able to give to somebody. So they come to discover that all these kids are related. But then the story goes further in depth, that there's supposed to be a limit on the number of times that one bank can use the same sample. But what they didn't say was that bank could then sell that sample to other banks, who would then be held to the same standard, but they could then sell it to another bank. It comes now to be where at this day, there are potentially between 75 and 90 kids, there's 36 At least confirmed but they think between 75 and 90 that may have been conceived using his sperm. Wow. Wow. Amazing. It's an amazing story. It's a great fun watch again, it starts as a fun sports story and then just twist an entirely different direction. But then they you know they show the family kind of his actual children getting together with some of these half children that they didn't know about and it's it's really good it's a it's kind of a weird, crazy story that becomes kind of a heartwarming story. And he was so devoted to his family and his wife and his children that it's kind of cool to see how they embrace that he was really their donor father and it's it's a great fun hour watch hour and a half watch. I recommend it pick it up

Jeff Dwoskin 24:22

all right, that was a great imposter and me definitely go check that out. That's a great documentary. You got lots of homework you got that one truth be told, we're gonna throw in all the murders in the building if you haven't seen that yet. And the bad batch for all you Star Wars fans out there so much for you to do. I don't want to keep you any longer. Go hop on the couch, find your cozy spot, grab your own remote, cross your own streams, and we'll see you next time.

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