#231 Crossing The Streams Has Cold Feet (Bonus Ep60) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

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Jeff Dwoskin 0:29

Hey, oh, it is I Jeff Dwoskin, your host of classic conversations and your guide through this bonus episode of crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams? Well, it's where we answer the universal question. Hey, what should I binge watch next? We've come to the right place. We have over 110 hours of binge watching suggestions on our YouTube channel don't have that much time. Well, you're in luck because these bonus episodes beam three of those live segments from three various shows right to your ears right here right now. What more could you ask for? Hmm, you can check us out live weekly, Wednesdays at 9:30pm. Eastern Time join along in the conversation. But right now this bonus episode is coming at you from Live episode 7590 and 100. We have cold fie avatar to weigh the water and facing Nolan. We're gonna kick things off with regular guests and friend of the show Fred Carroll avatar way of the water and Zach Wiseman also jumps in there at the end to offer his take. Alright guys take it away. I'm interested in Avatar, the way the water avatar two also known as Avatar two. And Fred, as saw yesterday, he's going to talk to us about it. I want to know so I was getting those toys. Okay, MIT

Fredd Carroll 1:45

only Yeah, no spoilers. It's very short. Because for some reason, I might be the only person that Jeff gave a script to, because he's making me read stuff. And so I'll start by saying, so I'm a fan of great filmmakers. I'm just a big fan of them. And from Spielberg, Wes Anderson, Hitchcock, many others the Coen brothers not to be not to be confused with the Dwoskin brothers who have just who how to launch a podcast a product of Dwoskin media plan preparing launch your podcast today. Head over to John dwoskin.com For more information, okay, I don't know why he put that in his script, but he made me say that but I digress. So.

Speaker 3 2:29

So in a land where little these little blue creatures not called Smurfs fight for their freedom for their rights, their respect? Where Zoe's Allah Dano, or however the hell you say your name is way too much. She's excelled and reactive crying mess all the time. Even in fictional worlds, the children don't listen to their parents. But Mr. James Cameron, who brought us classic films such as aliens, not alien Aliens, Terminator True Lies. And oddly enough, the original title of that other movie was Hope Floats, but Jack does and because an uppity bitch sprawls out selfishly across the third class headboard and simply watches his beautiful frozen face sink to the ocean floor to save herself. But that was too much of a spoiler, they determined so timespan on Titanic because it was just more marketable, you know, to call it Titanic. So as a self proclaiming expert in film, I think his dedication to the craft is great, I enjoyed the film, it's a little, it's about an hour too long, it's going at like three hours, 20 minutes for this film, it's filled with depth, it's filled with true talent that the CGI of it is just beyond. It's a cinematic masterpiece. I don't know about the storyline so much. I'm gonna have to see it a second time to dig into it a little deeper. But it's what's interesting that I read about it is, although it's in the water, none of the actors are actually in the water. Something like 90% of the water is CGI. And you can't tell the only thing I noticed about it was no splashing on the screens, you know, on the camera lenses and stuff, which you see in the, you know, the old Jaws movies and stuff like that. Yeah, the whole thing. You know,

Ron Lippitt 4:20

porn directors are concerned about that. Yes. Right.

Speaker 3 4:23

Yeah. Very difficult, but without giving it away. I did enjoy it. I thought it I enjoyed it enough that it's you have to see it in a theater I think to get the full effect. Now. I did not see it in 3d. Because spoiler alert, I cannot see in 3d Just so you guys all know that I only see I have no depth perception. So I can't see in 3d Because I have a lazy left eye. So that's why I had to sit with all the old ladies and all the elderly people like Bob

Unknown Speaker 4:59

couldn't they just keep One thing you

Fredd Carroll 5:00

know, you know I've tried I've tried many times to get her out there lazy lazy Joe who's showing movies

Bob Phillips 5:15

in 3d I have no idea where that's happening

Jeff Dwoskin 5:18

3d Like house a wax a gear used to is that is that like I started here here have have a quarter you know first open mic was in 3d yeah here's a pen it's not like that. This is like a cinematic masterpiece you're in the world. It's your like literally in the world of Avatar right now I

Fredd Carroll 5:44

will say I will say the ending to it is extreme and it's dirty. But you see a lot of Titanic type stuff and you'll see it once you sit down and see the film you'll know what I'm talking about. It's everything but the band. It was to use the same set full of sumptuousness

Jeff Dwoskin 6:04

exact see it I gotta believe Zaxxon

Zack Wiseman 6:07

see the three times

Speaker 6 6:13

ago moving three times. Oh, I

Zack Wiseman 6:17

don't have a job.

Unknown Speaker 6:18

What did you think? No. Yeah, there's

Jeff Dwoskin 6:20

other things you could watch.

Zack Wiseman 6:23

Have you been to the theaters recently? It's only awkward tour.

Fredd Carroll 6:26

Yeah, did you? Did you like it Zach?

Zack Wiseman 6:29

Um, so you got most of it right compared to what i thought i It is a beautiful movie. It deserves to be seen in the theater. I don't know why it exists. I don't like no one really asked for this thing. Because there wasn't anything that they solved from movie one. They only kind of created more problems. So it is the first movie splashed with Titanic splashed with the Abyss splash with avatar one so it You're right. It's it's beautiful. But I will say that there is a lot of underwater acting because Kate Winslet actually just broke the record for longest underwater free diving thing. She just beat Tom Cruise.

Fredd Carroll 7:09

Not Kate Winslet. You mean? Yeah. No.

Zack Wiseman 7:12

She wasn't. She was. Yeah, she was the other tribes wife. She was the one like the pregnant woman that was right. And she actually was underwater free diving for over seven minutes on this movie. Tom Cruise's record.

Bob Phillips 7:26

So the press junket tells us right

Fredd Carroll 7:28

yeah, definitely, definitely. They were the training was there and I

Jeff Dwoskin 7:32

cruise in that because it was

Zack Wiseman 7:34

mission impossible for it was one where he was underwater and being like, sucked around while trying to grab something. It's a beautiful movie. It's not a great movie. It's a beautiful movie. Yeah. Well,

Jeff Dwoskin 7:46

what made you want to see it two more times?

Zack Wiseman 7:49

The first time you watch a movie, you're just being slapped by it. It's like what is this? Like? What am I seeing? Like what's happening? And there's just so much like exuberance and excitement and visual things just happening? The second time I watched a movie, it's like a break it down. Like what am I actually seeing? What are these characters going through? Like, what is what are they telling me out of this? And then the third time I see it, it's to make sure that my critiques are accurate, and I hated as much as I felt that I was, which is most movies. Yeah, yeah.

Ron Lippitt 8:17

Rodney Rodney Dangerfield in vet school with the triple Lindy? How long

Zack Wiseman 8:21

was he under for that? 20 seconds here.

Fredd Carroll 8:24

Yeah, he did. Okay, so. So that's it. That's my review for this. Make sure you head over to John dwoskin.com. Learn how to start your own podcast today.

Jeff Dwoskin 8:34

MC Manhattan. Did you see advertised? No, but I did see this wonderful ad for the Dwoskin brothers. Yes.

Fredd Carroll 8:42

Let's discuss.

Bob Phillips 8:42

May I just interject one point here. This This may be my sole contribution to the show because I was too lazy to watch anything. You remember I the last couple of weeks. I don't know what it was, but I was going off on Hollywood access and bullshit. And I read just yesterday that Edie Falco, she played Tony Soprano's wife. I sent this okay, this is this is just so it's like what do they think we are complete? Morons. Okay, so she says that she didn't even know that the movie hadn't come out already, though. She? Oh, she thought it was you know, she shot the movie four years ago. Right. And I don't know what character she plays. But she says she just thought it was never released or it must have bombed. And so all this new promotion for it. She's like, Oh, and her for her friend had to tell her that it's just being a realist. I'm like, You're so full of Shell way. Come on. You've been waiting for this because you got point. Oh, 1% of the back end of this, right. Yeah, that's what James Cameron gave you. And you're counting every cent of that. It's such horseshit. I get

Zack Wiseman 9:48

to fight this at all right just to be the devil's advocate on this because I feel like in a room full of white Angry Men, I gotta be the one it's like, you shouldn't be this angry. In all fairness, he was Filming three of the avatars back to back. Her role was supposed to be in part four, but it actually got moved up to part two to make sure that the storyline was accurate. So she was she didn't know she was actually in this movie.

Bob Phillips 10:11

You read all that? That's not what I read. That's what I read. Oh, well,

Jeff Dwoskin 10:15

I thought she was in Avatar three, which is 95%. Done and nine hours long and probably won't be released. And Zack, obviously that four times,

Zack Wiseman 10:25

actually, will I see everything. I even watch your shows a couple of times, just to find all the errors.

Bob Phillips 10:33

Welcome, come to Northville tomorrow night and see a live selling Bob. It's all errors. You'd be better off counting the things that work. I'm kidding.

Jeff Dwoskin 10:43

This is fun. All right. Thank you, Fred. That was avatar way of the water. Thank you. Zach Wiseman, as well. All right, up next, Brian Greene, another frequent guest and friend of the show is going to bring his British absurd comedy obsession to us once again with cold feet. Take it away, Brian. Speaking of cold feet, it's time to turn the show over to Brian grain.

Bryan Green 11:13

Well, he like after the Top Gun thing. Like, I don't even know why we're bothering talking about these other television shows. I feel like we all have to run out and watch Top Gun Maverick. Yeah. So My show is always to talk about my late late late night television studio binging habit, which is always some form of British or Australian sometimes absurd comedy television show. And so I tried to pick between the two I'm watching right now, which is Benidorm, or cold feet. Now, cold feet is unlike a lot of the other shows that I've talked about on this on crossing the streams in the sense that it is a comedy drama, it's a multicam comedy drama. And I think it's the British version of friends, if friends was actually watchable, and the real stakes had real stakes on the television show. It's about for couples, you know, that find each other in the first couple of episodes of the first season, they find each other and they become a group of friends who are going through love life, children, marriage, jobs, divorce, cheating, all this stuff that we really all of us would go through, there's no huge, you know, dramatic arcs that don't make a lot of sense. There's adoptions and abortions, and all this other stuff that's really handled very, in my opinion. Lafley. And there's, there's a storyline throughout the seasons, throughout the episodes throughout the seasons, and then throughout the entire series. And they have a early version, which was 1999 through 2005. And then they came back in 2016 through 2020. So they had this kind of young 30s version of themselves. And then they had this, you know, 40s, late 40s version, and they're all all the same actors came back for both series. And it's just a really good, I feel like it's a really good show to binge when you just want to kind of laugh a little bit, but then have, it's like this is us, if this is us actually was fun, had some funny moments in it. This is us wasn't such a shit show sometimes. And I really feel like it's closer to the truth of how we all live our lives than some of these other shows that capture our attention for a minute or two. It's strong writing, it's very well acted, in my opinion by all of the players, the main players, and they just showcase these four couples in Manchester. And so it's not an extraordinary television show. It's a really good television show. And I really like watching it. Because again, friends if there was real stakes, and it was actually a good show, right? It's there's a through line there, you can pay attention and you know, you know from series to series or Season to Season who's with who and in, in what's going on, it's kind of it's kind of my soap opera, so to speak, but it's really funny, it's well written. So it's really funny, and so well acted that there are moments where you tear up there are moments where you feel real emotions, or you could see yourself in that situation. Oh my gosh, who would have mind kid that are oh my gosh, what if my girlfriend, you know, ran off with the guy at the club or whatever. So I think between the acting and the writing, and this wasn't well received when it first came out, it was actually bashed by critics, but it's got an 8.7 now on Rotten Tomatoes, rotten tomatoes or Metacritic or something like that. And it's won over 20 awards, Comedy Awards BAFTA Award, you know, all the all the things that that these British television shows when so I think that if you're in for just a procedural, that's good and you can pay attention to and get involved in some characters that you feel like you're there are real stakes involved in it. Then give it a try. If you're into British television, which I just happen to be

Jeff Dwoskin 14:58

that's not I love how into British Television you are.

Bryan Green 15:01

I'm so into it. So I don't know what it is something about. It's I think it's just a lot better in some cases. Britain rakija

Tony Berardo 15:09

various got me into it years ago. Yeah, if not for him, I wouldn't even selected that. But his shows and I got down this rabbit hole of stuff in the UK. They're just funny. They're finally, there's the money.

Bryan Green 15:23

A lot of the stuff that I watch is very Monty Python, not in the I mean, that's like the gold standard. But it's ridiculous. Absurd comedy, right? It's sometimes physical. A lot of times they go off, they go off on tangents and the shows and you know, there's a five minute sidebar about whatever. This is not that the cold feet is not that it's a comedy drama with a third line, but I think they do it so much better. If I mean name and American television show that's not on comedy. That's not on Cartoon Network after 7pm that does the same thing. I don't think you can just,

Jeff Dwoskin 15:55

I just got a look from my wife. The same luck that Jada gave well, so I have to I have to defend friends.

Bryan Green 16:05

Sorry, Robin.

Tony Berardo 16:10

Someone's close enough to hit Yeah.

Bryan Green 16:12

We watched that friends special. My wife and I did because we i Everybody remembers liking friends. But go back and watch friend me and tell me that television show is at all good. It's not it's a really bad and really poorly written comedy show. In my opinion, go back and watch Seinfeld. You have to laugh a minute. Right? It's well written it stands the test of time. I think friends captured a moment. And everybody got into it because everybody else was into it. And is there a giggle here in there? Yes, there is. Are the real stakes involved? Almost never. You never actually I mean, that's my opinion. I never actually feel anything so we went and tried to rewatch it after this HBO comedy special that we both agreed was a good comment. You know, a good special a good follow up. And within the first three episodes, I was like, this is just shit. This is wrong.

Jeff Dwoskin 17:01

First season it was very, it's kind of like if you watch Sex in the City, and they're just markers character you're like, is anyone really that clever? You know, like, though the little clap as often as she was clever. The first season of friends. I felt like it got better. And then I remember stopping watching Friends originally when it was originally on. It was like mid late seasons, and then it kind of got better again. Yeah, I think the last couple of seasons cut when,

Tony Berardo 17:31

when Shandler started gaining weight is when it stopped being funny. And then you know, he started losing weight again, and then started winning.

Bryan Green 17:38

Yeah, got off the pain pills. It was not funny. But when he got back back on,

Jeff Dwoskin 17:43

whether that's fine if you watch the one where they get engaged, which the ad ends the season and then picks up the next day, picks up the exact, complete way complete.

Tony Berardo 17:54

But he's wearing the same shirt. They put in the same shirt. Like

Jeff Dwoskin 17:58

yeah, I feel bad because he was always one of my favorites. Actually. Yeah, just when you learn like someone goes through like that.

Tony Berardo 18:05

Oh, yeah. No, it is he went through a lot. And then even that special, you know, the especially talks about it. He looked bad.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:11

Yeah. Yeah. And Lamia just had to

Tony Berardo 18:15

bounce. So yeah, sure. Well, he's definitely on oxy for sure.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:18

You know, I tell you that his his books coming out and they say there's some bombshells in the book. So Ooh, he wrote a book so All right, tell your

Bryan Green 18:27

wife that there are episodes of friends that I like do you think are well written and funny, but in general, I just I don't

Jeff Dwoskin 18:33

think Jerry's back over

all right, thank you, Brian Green from the commercial break. Check out Brian on the commercial break. And of next from Live episode 90. Facing Nolan. Ryan Lippitt. Really brings it on strong for this review. Take it away run with it, then let's kick off with acing Nolan. Ironically the picture posters him not facing us. Okay, that's

Ron Lippitt 19:09

I think that was supposed to be that way. I think that was the irony of that of that photo. Nice job, boys. This is actually a movie I caught Yes. On my original method of catching movies, which is Delta Airlines. Thank you Delta. It served it up to me and they're in their new flicks genre on my flight out to Dallas, and just enough time to watch this thing. And I will tell you being a child of the 70s and 80s. And even into the 90s I was always fascinated by Nolan Ryan to me Nolan Ryan was always the ultimate competitor. And I know this is probably a review that Bob should be doing or even south because they tend to be the sports folks and I tend to be the world war two foreign film enthusiast, but I think me Well, well, certainly but your your sports seems to be centered on NASCAR and I guess NASCAR, but anyway, listen Nolan Ryan. I have always found fascinating and one of the things I always enjoyed when I was a kid watching about Nolan Ryan is he had this allure to him. And it wasn't just because of his fastball. It was this nastiness to this ultimate competitor, being able to do whatever is necessary to win games for himself and his teammates, combined with the fact that he was a wild pitcher, pitching to four radar guns. And they estimated that his original pitches when he was in his 20s, were up to 107 108 miles an hour. And he was hitting people with these pitches. So I, you know, I always thought it was just really cool. Every time Nolan Ryan took the mound, what's going to happen, I have no idea what's going to happen. And that's kind of where the story begins, as they take you through the history of Nolan Ryan, and the context of this of this film being many of the best hitters in the game, talking about what it's like to face this guy. And I thought that was a really interesting way that they approached the telling of the story. He came from a very small town in west Texas. Nobody had ever heard of this guy. He was not one of these high ranking recruits. He was drafted by the Mets in the 12th round of the 1965 Major League Baseball draft, which if you know, baseball, that's essentially you're taking a flyer, if you're pitching somebody, if you're picking somebody, somebody up in the 12th round you you're really expecting, you know, it might be like a complete flash possibility, otherwise, you kind of don't care. That's, that's how deep into the draft, this guy was picked. He had a history of wildness, of anger, of being one of these uncoachable kids that just had one of these magic arms that people didn't really know what to do it but they figured somewhere, somehow, someone was gonna get ahold of him and work with him in a way that could turn that arm into into something that's usable. He only had one pitch, which was his fastball. And people know that. In modern baseball, and especially in today's game, you got to have three pitches, usually four or five pitch to be a starter. Yeah, to be a starter, you gotta have three pitches. And that actually brings up a good point, Howard, because when he first came up into baseball, he was a reliever, he only pitched the end of games, and they didn't realize his talent. So but here's what's really interesting about Nolan Ryan is that when he was picked up by the Mets, he went he had a five or 4.3 era, which is which is not that great. He went six and nine in 1965 with the Marion Mets, which is part of the Appalachian League, which is like a way it's a third level down minor league team for the Mets. But then he got promoted to double A and then and then to single a were the Greenville Mets got ahold of him. And he was put in with this amazing old school pitching coach who basically reset everything in his game, reset, how he threw the ball reset, how he ended his pitches reset how he was prepared to receive the ball after get it after the ball was hits. And that year, he went 17 and two with the 2.5 era and struck out 272 People in 183 innings which is you know more than a strikeout and ending it's just it's just a crazy stat. And that pretty much propelled him into the major leagues where he you know, as I said, started with the Mets ended up going to the angels and then when the angels in him couldn't come to contract negotiations, when those didn't work out. He was able to move back to Texas, first with Houston and then ultimately with the Texas Rangers, but his career is really it's second to none in some of the most amazing stats. I would say there's never been another pitcher quite like Nolan Ryan. So check this out. Here's an example the dude through seven no hitters. Would you like to know what the most amount of no hitters for second place all time three. That's right, three. This guy this guy threw seven in his career including two in one year, which is just absolutely ridiculous. The next closest pitcher Sandy Cofax actually had four so either all the rest of them saw young Larry Cochran and Bob Feller, Justin Verlander. All had three three. Justin Verlander, still pitching but like I said he threw his first few new no hitters just in 1973 alone. And and that that is an amazing statistic. Here's another one. He threw 5700 strikeouts in his career. Would you like to guess what the next best strikeout is? It's got to be in 2000. Now it actually it was it was 4800. But that's by Randy Johnson, who under normal circumstances, Randy Johnson will be the all time absolute leader in strikeouts, but he would have had to have pitched 200 strikeouts a season for another four more For years, if he would even approach Nolan Ryan, and that that is just that just goes to show you how many strikeouts per year this guy had. It's not just that he threw amazing pitches, it's that people truly were afraid of him, they would step back, they would not have their normal strikes, they wouldn't get good at bats with Nolan Ryan, and they talked about this at length. He also led the league for career walks, which I think sounds like a bad stat. But it's actually a really good stat when you're a strikeout pitcher, because it means you're just a little bit wild if people don't know exactly what you're gonna get for you. And that that is a pretty amazing thing he pitched until he was 46 years old, which is another amazing stat. He has thrown more innings than any other player in history. And averaged, like I said, more than 200 strikeouts per season. So anyway, listen, he he is an absolute juggernaut of a player, the fact that he pitched in the 60s 70s 80s and 90s is another absolute ridiculous thing. His career ended very suddenly when he was in his upper 40s with his elbow popping, and he walked off. Literally,

Speaker 7 26:13

just I don't mean to laugh at his career, and it's suddenly after 30 years.

Ron Lippitt 26:18

Yeah, no, I mean, like, it wasn't it wasn't like this big grandiose of this is my final year. And you know, and you get to do the the the the Jeter tour where he goes to every stadium and waste his cap, he was early in the season, he threw a curveball, his elbow popped, he walked off the field and said, That's it, I'm done. And that was the end of his career and went on from there. But I listen, I found this documentary, a super interesting documentary, because of the way that they filmed it in terms of how many people they interviewed to talk about what it was like facing this guy, I really I tried to use kind of some of the lessons of Nolan Ryan, in some of the other contexts of the either business or personal life or things, you know, interpersonally or things like just about the the nature of sometimes it takes not being nice to be at the top of whatever it is you measure and be successful, particularly in business, I would say. And he talks a lot about that now that he does speeches all over the world, he talks about, nobody was his friend that he would go up there with this attitude of once he's on the mountain, you are his enemy, and he will do whatever it takes to win for himself and win for his team. And I really respect that. It's funny now looking at him now because he's a grandfather. He's a father, he he's the ultimate family man. He's gone back to living a very simple life on a ranch in Texas. So like none of these, these big things for big name pitchers like that. Were true about Nolan Ryan, he was very true to his upbringing, which is just that of a being a very simple, hardworking guy who expected the absolute best for himself. I think you guys will enjoy the documentary. It's a really, really good one. And I think you should check it out.

Howard Rosner 27:54

I had a good friend, Spencer Steele, who idolized Nolan Ryan and Spencer studied every aspect of himself a couple of things. I remember and I'm trying to find the video to on YouTube or somewhere to send out it's one of the greatest at bats of all time. It's known Ryan pitching against a guy named Vance law who was one of the law brothers that played for the Cubs and it was a three pitch strikeout that was just like it was like, sorry for pitch strikeout that it was like 98 100 102 mile an hour fastball that just missed and then a curveball that absolutely was like 78 miles an hour that started right at his head over and absolutely throws him my favorite baseball team other than being a Detroit are the 84 Tigers of all time I was a huge fan for some reason. I think it was the uniforms of the rainbow uniforms of the 80 and 81 Houston Astros Astros Yeah. Which that ad team featured Nolan Ryan, Jr. Richard who is a fire baller that threw ridiculously hard and passed away way too early as well. So as a huge fan didn't talk about the biggest mistake ever made in a baseball game Robin Ventura as a rookie for the Chicago White Sox decided to charge the miles so they get a toss absolutely handed to him. So

Ron Lippitt 29:13

they talk they talk What about in fact Reggie Jackson is interviewed about that. That Robin Ventura little known fact the team and Robin was with was at the time Yeah. Yeah, that there was there was a bounty that when Nolan not if when Nolan through one of their players if you got hit your church on the mound, and they all agreed the whole team beforehand. And Reggie Jackson, I think it was Reggie was talking about. Robin was the one that got hit. And he was the one that basically didn't want to go but he was essentially he if you watch the video closely, you can tell he his heart's not in it. He doesn't want to go but his team is absolutely expecting him to go and as you said our face he gets his face beat man. What One other thing I'll just say, here's a little fun little side note, one of the most famous sports pitchers pictures in history is Nolan Ryan with his split face and bloody uniform. And he refused to come out of the game his lip was cut completely through, you could see his teeth in between his lip and he refused to come out of the game and it's uniform is completely red with with blood, that uniform is the most sought after sports memorabilia in the world, really that for uniform that is it's the most paid for and sought after uniform in history. So I thought that was a really interesting little setup

Jeff Dwoskin 30:40

that goes through Nolan's head on is is elbow pops. I mean what's what happens to him mentally after that as he we're gonna watch the documentary.

Ron Lippitt 30:49

He talks about that Jeff in the documentary because it you know, he's he was on one year contracts at that point. He was clearly every year was going to be the last year of his career. Yeah, he talks about that. It's, you would think it would be devastating for him, but it wasn't he he's such a dude, it's so hard to explain it. But when his arm popped, and he just was like, That's it, man. That's good career. I have enjoyed it.

Howard Rosner 31:13

Nolan was he was a freak athlete, which a lot of people didn't realize. And, you know, I'm all of us being Detroiters. I'm a huge fan of Justin Verlander, still to this day, even though he's in Houston now as well. And what's different about him very, very similar to Nolan Ryan is not only a great arm and unbelievable talent, but their athleticism their lower body is what drives them. They had such fluid motions even though they were so extreme in what they were doing, that they they didn't have often the arm issues that take out a lot of guys because their lower bodies are so strong.

Ron Lippitt 31:49

So how are they actually talked about First off his workout regimen was ridiculous. Like he kept himself in amazing shape through his career. But the I think it was the either the angels or the Astros, I can't remember 21 of them got him into a like they put him in one of these green suits with all the sensors all over his body and had him throw, like for a couple hours to try and try and figure out how his throwing motion is so perfect, because he's considered to have the most perfect throwing motion in baseball history. So they were they were trying to map it out so they could be duplicated. And I thought that was super interesting. The bottom line is you can't duplicate it. You're born. You're born before you're born with. Yep,

Jeff Dwoskin 32:30

that's right. Awesome. I got strong lower back

Unknown Speaker 32:33

here and I'm gonna have to watch that run. That's definitely right up my alley.

Jeff Dwoskin 32:39

All right, Ryan that was facing Nolan Ryan coming to us from Live episode 90. But that's not all. We had avatar weigh the water from in Live episode 100 and cold feet from Live episode 75. Thanks to all our guests. And thanks to all of you. You got a lot of homework, I know it. Go hop in the couch, grab the remote cross your own streams, and we'll see you next time.

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