#362 Sam Kwasman – From Dancing to Duck Voices

Jeff Dwoskin 0:00

Oh my god, we got a special guest on the show today. I am so excited from the Tom and Jerry show. You've loved him in mouse party, fighting the museum, X marks the thump and ladies and gentlemen, little Quacker, welcome to the show. It's

so good to have you. I love you. I've watched every episode. I gotta know what's it like working with Tom and Jerry? Oh,

Little Quacker 0:28

thank you. All right, ladies and

Jeff Dwoskin 0:35

gentlemen, that's awesome. The real guest spoiler is actor, dancer, voice master. Sam quasman, welcome to the show, Sam, how you doing? Hi,

Sam Kwasman 0:46

thank you. Thank you very much. Hey, it's great to be here. Hey, try the veal.

Jeff Dwoskin 0:50

Hey, try the veal.

Sam Kwasman 0:54

If you're waitresses,

Jeff Dwoskin 0:56

so you are little Quacker on the Tom and Jerry show. How'd you get in

Sam Kwasman 1:00

the voices? Well, funny you should ask I was I joined at 19 years of age. I turned pro as a dancer for Anna white in a show called Disney on parade way back in the day. And she had just won the Academy Award for choreographing the movie Oliver. She also did Music Man bye bye, birdie. And this was a big thrill to work with the top choreographer of her time. It was a call show called Disney on parade. I became a lead dancer, and lo and behold, they need a duck voice to do Donald Duck live 10 to 14 shows a week. So I wound up doing the voice of Donald Duck for the show, and I did it for their for the Disney unit, Snow White unit, Three Caballeros unit, all the way for three or four units up until it closed today. You see it as Disney on Ice, but it was originally a dance show, and what they skated, we ran, we called ourselves holiday in wood. My best partner in the show was a guy called Patrick Swayze. He started in the show as well,

Jeff Dwoskin 2:02

right? Who later went on to get mad when people would put babies in corners?

Sam Kwasman 2:06

Yeah, he was a great guy, and did a great Donald Duck, by the way. Oh, so, yes, I, I perfected the voice, and of course, he could do it in Spanish. I wound up doing What's My Line in radio shows around the country promoting Disney on parade. Well, I danced in the show, and I did the next unit and the next unit until it folded. I went over to the studio and I started doing their records and their toys, up until they decided to have a an official Donald Duck, one guy doing Donald Duck, and they took out Mickey Donald goofy, brought in three new guys. That's pretty much basically what they did. Then many years later, I get a call out of the blue from the executive producer, director of Tom and Jerry. He says, You still do a good duck I go, yeah. Who are you? He was the animation supervisor at Disney, and remembered me after 25 years, and I went in and did a little Quacker, and I got the job, and they auditioned 3000 people for that little duck, by the way, how about that? 3000 voice actors? So that's quite a it's like winning the lottery.

Jeff Dwoskin 3:12

Hey, you are one in 3000 you can legit walk around going like, Hey, I'm like, one in 3000 which is better than one in a million. Better. Odds with Sam?

Sam Kwasman 3:22

Immediately, I went out immediately, bought a lottery ticket and didn't win, but it was nice to try. You know what? I mean? That

Jeff Dwoskin 3:29

is so cool, so good. It's Is there a subtle difference between the voices? Or Yes, yes,

Sam Kwasman 3:34

Donald Duck is a deeper voice, and he's angry, and any little thing will take him off. Doesn't get mad at so much of people who does get jealous, but it's like he's in situations where he can't open a window and he has a quick temper. So it's like, whereas little Quacker is a higher pitch voice and he's very innocent, you have to play the innocence. Oh, oh, see, you see the difference?

Jeff Dwoskin 4:07

Yes, I do. It's, it's, I do. I do see the difference. And then, yeah, but it's hard to tell ducks apart. Let's just be honest, it's tough, yeah,

Sam Kwasman 4:18

but it's really the acting. It's not so much the voice. I mean, there are people who do the voice. It's the acting. You have to make them sing, dance. Oh, no, I'm seeing act, you know, happy, sad, angry, jealous, upset, alone. Oh, you know, things like that. You know. Give them a make them, you know, give them a range, an emotional range. No,

Jeff Dwoskin 4:43

absolutely, I totally get it. So do I mean, you're awesome at it. So thank you. Is it, it's all done from your house. Is that the beauty of voice acting? You don't have to to be in the studios. Can you do everything kind of remote? Yeah, you

Sam Kwasman 4:57

can, but I prefer to go in. Oh. The director and the producer and the writers are on monitors, and I walk into a studio here in Burbank, and I prefer to do it at a studio, because their equipment is better. They've got an engineer there, that kind of thing, rather than just do it from home, where I can physically, I mean, visually, see them, and at home, I just have a little microphone in a studio. It's just the quality and everything's better if you do it in one of the professional Studios in Burbank. So cool. It's probably more Yeah, and it's more fun, yes, yeah. And you go in one at a time, I never see anybody else, none of the other actors, and you go in and you do your thing. You're an actor, you know, acting, yes, that's acting. Very

Jeff Dwoskin 5:50

cool, very cool. So you've also, you've done Donald Duck on Robot Chicken, which is pretty, pretty awesome. So yes, Seth Green Robot Chicken, yes, is brilliant in general, and you've done that a few times.

Sam Kwasman 6:03

Yes, yes. I also was the narrator on the Mad Max episode segment where these, this whole family is is running away in a station wagon from the holidays, and they're afraid of the holidays, that they'll catch up with them, because they don't want to believe in the holidays. So it's a Mad Max road trip that was fun. Did another episode of Robot Chicken, where I'm, I'm the Road Runner, and he's, he and the Wiley Coyote have a thing going, as you know, and it's the Road Runner and his secret to what he does to the Wiley Coyote guy. And then I played a an exorcist priest, and that was a lot of fun. Yeah, where I'm getting spit up on, you know, a lot. So,

Jeff Dwoskin 6:50

no, that's great. It's a fun it's definitely a fun show. This the stop motion in the whole approach to it is, is brilliant. And plus, it's like, he uses all the toys that we grew up with. It's so it's okay. And so you did one where you were with Mickey Mouse in a bar, yes,

Sam Kwasman 7:07

yes, Mickey and Donna little bar picking up chicks. And it's 30 seconds long. I think it's the funniest thing. It just, I thought it was just a classic. It was one of my favorites. You know, he doesn't want to date a woman that looks just like him in a dress, you know, Minnie Mouse.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:26

Yeah, here we can do it right now. I'll be Mickey okay.

Sam Kwasman 7:30

Yeah, you try that.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:34

Yeah. See, I tried and I couldn't do it. You just, I just wanted to showcase to everyone how talented you are, I couldn't even, Hey, I can't do it. I wanted to do it. In my head, I can do it. And in my head, I did it, but it didn't come out. So that's the brilliance of I felt it. I felt you felt it. Yeah, no, but that's cool. I love that's a great robot. Check insulation. Now these are, like, any issues with, like getting sued, or like you being Donald Duck, or them even doing Donald Duck and doing, well, I haven't done

Sam Kwasman 8:05

Donald I'm no longer. I never, you know, I just did their records and toys, and I did that Disney show, and I haven't been Donald Duck for what, 30 years. I

Jeff Dwoskin 8:14

mean Robot Chicken. I

Sam Kwasman 8:16

mean Robot Chicken. Oh, well, I think there's a thing called freedom of speech, and you're talking about parody. So it's comedy. Get sued, I guess. No, not you. I don't, yeah, I mean, no, I don't think anyone's, I don't know that anyone's come after Seth or Robot Chicken that I know of heard of anything. And we just did it. We just did another one. So

Jeff Dwoskin 8:40

I guess I guess it would be parody. You're right, you're right. Yeah, cool. That's cool. So you're you've done your Oh, I did want to ask you one other question, Patrick Swayze, did you stay in touch with Patrick Swayze? Or one day where you're sitting there going, oh, wait a minute. I used watching ghost or Dirty Dancing and being like, Wait a minute. I used to work with that guy? Yeah,

Sam Kwasman 9:01

I did that once. I was watching him on a big screen in a movie. I forget what it was, Roadhouse or something, and I'd worked with Sam Elliot and lifeguard his first movie. And I look up and I go, I think that's buddy Swayze. I think that's Patrick. I mean, she says Patrick, Swayze. I didn't know his name was Patrick. We always called him buddy. That was his nickname. So, you know, we, we hung out. But after the show, I really, you know, didn't see him much. He did the show here, called Chicago in LA at the Pantages Theater. It's a musical, a bob Fauci musical. And I went backstage to say hello. We had a mini reunion. When they get that big and they become big stars like, you know, it's hard to stay in touch. Oh,

Jeff Dwoskin 9:42

I can imagine. But it was probably fun, just like, look up at the screen and go, Wait a minute.

Sam Kwasman 9:48

And of course, that when I first saw him backstage, like, are you still doing good duck? Get his duck for me. That's so funny.

Jeff Dwoskin 9:55

So you've been in a million TV shows, but I do you. You. Worked with Jerry Seinfeld in two ways, right? Letters from a nut? Yes. Tell me about that. Yes.

Sam Kwasman 10:06

It's a stage play. Letters from a nut, written by the brilliant Barry martyr, who is Jerry Seinfeld's head writer. And it's based on the books from the 1990s about these crazy letters that he wrote to these corporations, and they answer him because they don't know if, if they're being tested by the company, if the guy's really a nut. So it's called Letters from a nut. And he writes letters to like a hotel, a big hotel chain. He goes, Listen, you know, I'm allergic to your ice machine. I need to bring my own ice machine. Would that be okay? Something like that. And they write back, oh, yes, you know, we'll accommodate you, no problem. So he writes back, and goes, Great. It weighs 2000 pounds. I'll need a forklift to get it in the room. In

Jeff Dwoskin 10:50

the room, yeah,

Sam Kwasman 10:53

they still try to accommodate them. You know, it's what anything for a buck. I guess it's very funny.

Jeff Dwoskin 10:58

It is funny. And then you also are on comedians with cars, at least a couple, a few episodes as a product placement guy. And I watched, and that's a literal description. You were the product placement placement out there in the Acura, was it? Yeah, it's just literally that that's funny, and then yeah, pretends it was annoying or something.

Sam Kwasman 11:22

And we did it. We did it one take with four cameras. Again, Barry recommended me, and Jerry said, Get him. He could do everything. So he got me and and we went through it with Barry. And Barry gave me some great suggestions. And at the end, we roll up the window on him, you know, I roll up the one. And it was a great tag. I thought it

Jeff Dwoskin 11:40

was funny, yeah, yes, or is in and out as it was. It was definitely funny.

Sam Kwasman 11:47

Yeah, that's what Jerry wanted. He wanted funny.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:49

That's what he wanted. Yeah, Jerry likes that, yeah. Then he

Sam Kwasman 11:53

went to Netflix and didn't need a product placement guy anymore. So obviously, what happened?

Jeff Dwoskin 11:57

Yeah, Netflix, he didn't need your

Sam Kwasman 12:01

commercials, but he, you know, he said things like, you know, Barry said, don't worry, you know, we'll find something else for you to do. So, you know, they're just very, he's very generous, very kind, and I'm thrilled to work with him. Just thrilled. It's just flattering. He's just the number one comic in the world. I think,

Jeff Dwoskin 12:17

yeah, he's unbelievable. He does a lot of good stuff. So that's fine. Well, I hope they work you back in, because it's a funny show. It's a great show. It's a good little interview show, the coffee and the B roll. And that comedians, coffee is the greatest B roll, I think, ever, when they cut to when they cut to that coffee pouring. Well,

Sam Kwasman 12:38

COVID hit, and that stopped everything so, sure, and I just luckily, animation has not really been affected as badly it did impact us. But animations was the key continue working, because, you know, we didn't have to, you know, interact with another actor. You just went into a studio and recorded your voice, they could animate from home. So

Jeff Dwoskin 13:04

that's right, in the new pandemic, in the new pandemic world, everything is animated. That is being said, everything's animated now it's, everything's it's like, it's going to be like, the whole world comes to Sam. It's like, we just need voices, you know, like,

Sam Kwasman 13:19

Thank God, yeah. It's like, Sam gargling, right there. That was very good.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:22

That was me. That was not Sam. Thank you. Footnote,

Sam Kwasman 13:31

there goes. My career

Jeff Dwoskin 13:35

wasn't that bad. I could be mini Quacker.

Sam Kwasman 13:42

Yeah, Quacker, with a sore throat, thank you, yeah. What's wrong? Quacker,

Jeff Dwoskin 13:50

yeah, it's hard to talk. The more you try to imitate you, is you realize how talented you

Sam Kwasman 13:57

are. Oh, well, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank

Jeff Dwoskin 13:59

you. All right, so you, oh, let's talk about Lou Grant, I'm not going into the stuff you were on, but, like, sure, sure. So. Ed Asner, okay, so.

Sam Kwasman 14:09

Ed Asner, Ed and I have been friends for what, 50 years, 4050 years, something like that. 40 years I was choreographing a musical called Guys and Dolls, and he was the star. I became friends with him. He'd only won one or two Emmys at that time, so we became friends, and I thought he was a great actor, and he was really down to earth. And no airs about him, no ego. It was really about the work, which is what I learned. It's about the work. Don't you leave your ego at the door. You were there to work. You know, every time he'd win an Emmy I'd write him or call him and say, What? Like, there are no other actors. He's got, like, he won seven Emmys. He's the the world's Emmy winning male actor, television actor. So he's about 90. Now he's 90, and went to his birthday party and. I had just done The Bob Newhart Show, and I guess, start on Bob Newhart and and I played a ventriloquist, and it was nominated for an Emmy and all that the episode, Bob says to this day, it's his favorite episode. So I tell Ed, I'm complaining to Ed, I never get to do drama. All I do is comedy. I'm at the Comedy Store doing stand up comedy. I'm doing sitcoms where I do situation comedy. He goes, Well, you want to be a jerk. I'll put you on. Lou Grant, so I got to play a jerk. Luke grant, thanks to Ed. So then I tell Ed, I can't thank him enough for doing this, you know, years later, and he goes, I don't remember. It's funny. So we have a thing called Lunch with every three or four months, we get together and have lunch with Ed, with all these actors and, you know, directors and writers. So that's Lou Grant. I played a pharmacist who cut the price charged twice. I'm sorry, cut the drugs and charge twice the price. There you

Jeff Dwoskin 15:55

go. He's son of a bitch. Yes, I am, yes,

Sam Kwasman 15:58

yeah, things have gone up.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:03

I love Luke grant. He was amazing. And up, great. Yes, they're doing his voice. But he just had to do his voice. He just said yes. And make us all cry in the beginning, and

Sam Kwasman 16:13

it made him look like him, yeah. And it was a beautiful, beautiful cartoon, animated cartoon. And you know, now I think the younger generation knows who he is. And I think that's a that's great, because he's a fine, fine actor. And you know, you always want to be around people who are better than you. You want to be around talent. Love people with talent. That's why I'm here talking to you, Jeff and and I'm just thrilled because it's every time you see him work, or every time you, you know, talk to him, you learn, you learn, you learn something like he

Jeff Dwoskin 16:50

was, he was Santa Claus and elf, great, yep, and he was just on Season One of dead to me.

Sam Kwasman 16:57

Yes, I didn't, yes. I just, I saw him on that yes, so he's definitely,

Jeff Dwoskin 17:02

he's, he finds he's, keeps sticking around. Oh, okay, so I didn't want to gloss over Bob Newhart. I was going to bring it up. Oh, okay. I just, you didn't give it enough to because I so I watched the clip, and, yeah, go to Sam's website, and we'll talk about the website later. Well, I'll be in the show notes, but you have to this clip, it's a long clip too. It's like 10 minutes or so, but like, it is so funny. I can see why he would think this was his favorite episode and why it was Emmy. Emmy nominated it. You are so funny with that ventriloquist and it's just like, it's, it's, it, is it? Seriously? Why I was watching it? Yeah, sometimes you watch this, the older stuff, and it's, it was funny for the time. You know what? I mean? Like, maybe this was, this could have been just not, I mean, it was like, it was like, time comedy for the ages. It was, that is one of the funniest segments I've ever seen ever, and I kind of remembered it, but, you know, but it would have been a long time ago I had seen it, but it was a joy to re watch it. I gotta tell you, it was,

Sam Kwasman 18:03

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Well, Lloyd Garver wrote it. I I tell you what they did variety. Back then, there were no there was no internet, you know, there's no cell phone. I mean, no cell phones, no computers. You know that you could talk to people on or anything. And they put it, they would put ads in variety for auditions. So they were looking for a ventriloquist. Well, back in that day, I was working at the Comedy Store, and I did a dummy act where the dummy fell apart, and I blindfolded him and make him guess what people are holding up in the audience. And they you get it wrong, the dummy would get it wrong. So I gotta tell you, I called up because at that time, sitcom writers were coming into the Comedy Store and stealing our jokes, and the next week, you'd see your act on a sitcom. So I thought, well, they're they're advertising for an actor is a ventriloquist, and the dummy wants to leave his act and does well. I'm thinking, well, this is my act. So I called them up. There was a phone number. I called up CVS, and I get the casting director. I go, you know, I read your ad, and I'm at the Comedy Store doing this comedy bit with a dummy, and it sounds like you're doing my act, or someone saw my hat. And she says, Well, come on in and show us. So I come in and I show my little six minute bit, and I get the job. I mean, it was like, okay, all because I called him up on my own. You know, that's pretty good. And, yeah, we did it. And then here it is, many years later, decades later, and he, Bob turns 90, is now 91 but last year they did a retrospect about The Bob Newhart Show. And Bob Newhart, so the Wall Street Journal does the top 10 of every season. I come out number two with my performance with Bob for that for that season. I don't know what number one was, but number two, I was number two with my performance. Then Conan in the Hollywood Reporter, they asked all these celebrities, would you like about Bob Newhart? He goes, Well, I. A kid, and I'm watching the Bob doing is the ventriloquist on, and he was so funny. You know, I wanted to become a comedian. I wanted to get into comedy. So I'm responsible now for Conan's career comedy. I think it was really Bob. He was looking and then he interviews Bob. And Bob goes, Oh, that's my favorite episode. Is when I did this interview with a ventriloquist. So now that's that's what they talked about only decades later, after the fact. So it was so funny that the producers offered me a semi regular on the series, but Bob quit. So that was the end of the show, unfortunately, and that was the end of it. So that's how careers are made and and destroyed,

Jeff Dwoskin 20:44

maybe not destroyed, which is not, yeah, blossomed, yeah.

Sam Kwasman 20:48

So that that was a roadblock. So you move on.

Jeff Dwoskin 20:52

You should have done a spin off web series. Now you can do

Sam Kwasman 20:57

it there. Yeah? That'd be great. So that's what I played. I played a depressed ventriloquist who believes his dummy is real and wants to go out as a star. Lloyd Garver then became executive producer, director, executive producer of family ties. And I ran into him at Paramount Studios when I was auditioning for something, and he goes, Hey, I was just thinking about you. Come on in. I gotta think I got a part for you and family ties. So he put me on family ties and he wrote the my original episode. So I'm very grateful to Lloyd garland. That's awesome.

Jeff Dwoskin 21:30

Go ahead. Who did you get to work with on family ties, like who was in your scenes? Oh, well,

Sam Kwasman 21:35

I give the dummy. Excuse me, the dummy gives, gives Meredith Baxter Bernie advice on how to perform. Okay, you know, he says something like, If you believe in yourself, they'll believe in you. Don't be worried about the audience. So on the wrong opening act in that one, yeah, that was great. And they were all consummate actors. They were all great. Michael Gross, a fantastic actor, great, great to meet him. And of course, you know, Michael Shay Fox was terrific. Really enjoyed him. He was very again, down to earth, no, many of these people have they were very, no ego, no ego trips. They were there to do the work. And I think those are the best people.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:25

That's awesome. That's all, yeah, that was a great show. I that was, that was part of the whole can't miss lineup. It was, it was definitely one of my favorites. Very cool. So you, you worked with Lucille Ball?

Sam Kwasman 22:39

Yes, yes. Again, I was a dancer back then. I did Disney on parade for Anna white, and Anna White was choreographing Maine with Lucille Ball. So I went for the audition, and he had to do, I don't know if you know anything about dance or ballet, but it's double attitude turns. You had to do double attitude turns. She was very, very adamant about that. So I go in for the audition, and there's Lucy at the audition. She's watching them, you know, audition the dancers. And I go, Hi Anna, it's my turn to audition. And she goes, Oh, Sam. This is Sam. Lucy. This is Sam. I discovered him as the voice of Donald Duck for this Disney show. Do Donald deck for Lucy. So I do Donald deck for Lucy, and Lucy goes, that's very good, but she was great. She used to talk to me on the set. So I got the job, and I'm on set on location up in Santa Clarita at the Warner ranch, and we're supposed to jump over hedges. That's me jumping over hedges and doing all the heavy work. I'd go over and talk to Lucy, and I'd say, you know, you know, I like the Three Stooges. And she goes, bad props. They almost killed me. And then she told me a story about how they almost killed her. Had this fine powder in front of a fan, and she's powdering her face, and they turned the fan on, and she goes and the fan, all the powder goes in her mouth and her nose, her eyes, her ears. And she's in the hospital for three days. And she was very serious. She's almost died. I couldn't breathe when I blinked. You know, it was like sandpaper. And, I mean, it was, you know, all you had to do was say hello to her. And but she was a very serious woman. She wasn't funny off stage, but very serious. But you could talk to her, and that was great. I even talked to Bob, Bob Preston. Robert Preston, you had to say, you gotta call him Bob. So I'm on the set, and I go over to Bob Preston and go, Bob, you know, I thought you were wonderful in the music, man. And he goes, he always had a little cigarette. He goes, You know, I've done more than that kid. I go, Oh God, geez. You know, what did I do? He's just trying to give him a compliment. But, yeah, he had this huge career at MGM Studios as an actor, doing all these movies that is so

Jeff Dwoskin 24:59

cool. Yeah. That must have been great working with Lucy. She's one of my faves. One of my faves. She was great

Sam Kwasman 25:05

to work with. We were sitting around waiting to go all back on to work, and she would hand out Hershey bars chocolate to get our energy up to do. And she's looking at me. She goes, here, here, take it, take it. And I go, What? What? Oh, okay, she took me by surprise. Did you do, sweetie? It

Jeff Dwoskin 25:25

sounds like it sounds amazing. Sounds amazing. So talk to me about your stand up comedy career. Want to hear

Sam Kwasman 25:31

about? Oh, well, I went over to the Comedy Store while I was doing everything else, dancing and acting and all that, and I got into the Comedy Store as a regular at the original room. And then I decided, well, you know, this could be really good. I could get some work out of this. And so I started writing jokes about my family and being a high school experiences because I was very young, and I did my little ventriloquist act, and I did a bunch of cartoon voices. I did a whole bunch of them, and it got me a lot of work. Matter of fact, I could make more money as a stand up than it could as an actor. So stuck with it for a long time. You know, I just wish I was funnier or my material was better. That was the hardest part. But I didn't get to work with Robin Williams. We did medical Shakespeare together. He would get up and say, look, the moon like a testicle hangs low in the sky, and I go to Zion Frederick, not of 1000 feces come to talk to you a box upon your coccyx sucker. Medical. Shakespeare, yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 26:34

that's cool. You got to work with Robin Williams and Lucille. Michael J Fox and Patrick Swayze, yeah, you have had quite a career.

Speaker 1 26:45

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

Jeff Dwoskin 26:50

Did you ever get to meet Mel Blanc back in the day? Yes,

Sam Kwasman 26:53

yes, I went to the MO blank School of voices. He had a voiceover class, a voice teach, teaching you to do voices. So I had was doing Donald Duck at the time records and toys and things, and his son introduced us, and he goes, you know, Donald Duck, me Daffy Duck, Daffy Duck. So I did Donald he did Daffy. And he goes, it's great. You can do somebody else's voice, but I made my career on original voices, so you should concentrate on that. And he was right to do original voices. So he was right and he was wrong, because when he passed, it took six, 710, guys to replace him at Warner Brothers and I just did Looney Tunes over there with a bunch of actors who one guy does Daffy, one guy does Porky, and one guy does Elmer Fudd, and one guy and, you know, it was all Mel Blanc did all that.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:46

Oh, yeah, he was amazing. He was amazing. Yeah, quite a lot.

Sam Kwasman 27:50

So he gave me great advice.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:54

That's very cool. Yeah, so I was looking at your feed, your Gary Larson fan,

Sam Kwasman 28:01

yeah, yeah, yeah. I just started that.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:05

I love the first I have, the entire, you know, the binder. They publish all of them together. Oh, my

Sam Kwasman 28:13

God, I used to, I used to have that book. I'm sure it's in the garage somewhere. Just a big fan of fun, funny, you know comedy, you know, I've got friends who are on dry bar comedy Now, Bob zany, you should check him out. Fantastic. I

Jeff Dwoskin 28:27

love it. Great. I worked with Bob zany in 2011 it's some random city in Michigan. It's a good dry bar special. What do you got next? What do you got next? What's coming up? Well,

Sam Kwasman 28:40

I've been writing on Tom and Jerry and I just sold another story about some flamingos, flock of flamingos, and I had sold another one called quackers lucky penny that we just did. And so I've been writing, and I'm enjoying that. I'm hoping to do another movie.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:59

So how can people keep up with you on the socials? Well, I'm

Sam Kwasman 29:03

on Sam k3 thousand.com www, go to my website and and I'm on Facebook, you know, give me a ring.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:13

I'll put all those in the show notes so that everyone can kind of keep up with Sam. Yeah. And little quackers Say yes. Say goodbye as little quackers. Thank you little Quacker and Thank you Sam, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank