#327 Behind the Scenes with Dan Bakkedahl star of Dinner with the Parents

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All right, Hazel, thank you so much for that amazing introduction. You get this show going each and every week and this week was no exception. Welcome everybody to Episode 327 of classic conversations as always, I am your host Jeff Dwoskin. Great to have you back for what's sure to be an episode full of family fun Dan Bakkedahl is here that's right star have dinner with the parents currently on freebie you also loved him and legit Veep Life in Pieces and a million other things. And that amazing conversation is coming up in just a few seconds. And in nice few seconds. Last week mark Skippy price. Join me That's right Skippy from family ties. He was on the road pulled over and we chatted, you're gonna love it. And you're also going to love my conversation with Dan Bakkedahl. We dive into his time in Second City, The Daily Show and his brand new TV series dinner with the parents. This is actually my third dinner with the parents interview. Michaela Watkins was here John Beckerman was here check those out as well but right now enjoy my conversation with Dan Bakkedahl. All right, everything now is being taped. All right. I'll do Oh, here we go. Quick Intro All right, everyone. I am excited to introduce you to my next guest. He has started in life and pieces Veep legit seen him on The Daily Show The Goldbergs. Oh my God everywhere. He's currently starring at dinner with the parents on free TV. Welcome to the show. Dan Bakkedahl. Hello. Yes,

Dan Bakkedahl 2:02

man. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. I I love that. Anytime someone runs down a list of the shows that I've done, I don't care. But when they say legit, my ears perk up. I'm actually wearing my legit swag right now. You can't see it. It's the season one giveaway. Anyway. Thank you for having me.

Jeff Dwoskin 2:21

Tell me about Jim Jett, working with Jim Jefferies. He's a brilliant comedian, though

Dan Bakkedahl 2:25

it was so great. I spoke with Jim yesterday. You know, we've maintained a really close friendship the three main characters he and I and DJ Qualls have all remained pretty close over the years since Jim was great. You know, I mean, he's, he's used to being a solo performer. So there's that one thing that you got to remember which is like no, this is how he sees it. So this is how it needs to be done. And he wasn't always in charge of that, which I think was frustrating for him, but I thought he was great to work with a lot of fun. Never a dull moment on onset with

Jeff Dwoskin 2:57

that part of like a lot of shows with like, when I look at your IMDB a lot of times you look at someone's IMDb there is like one shot one to one Joe and then there's like a series and then like but Yeah, and like it was a guest spot but I mean the Goldberg 17 Oh, it's made for love. Yeah, like that holes. Made

Dan Bakkedahl 3:13

for love. I was a regular on that show. Yeah, The Goldbergs was one that God I had legit had just gotten canceled. And I was devastated. What am I going to do? And my agent said, Well, we got an offer for The Goldbergs and I was like, How do I fit on The Goldbergs? I didn't see myself that way. I saw myself as what I was doing on legit, which was kind of like a frumpy loser, not like an uptight history teacher or science teacher or math teacher depending on the season, which was always great so that I could still be teaching Adam. Anyway, it just it looked like it was just going to be an episode that was cool. It was one of the most lovely places to work. Wendy McLendon Covey, the woman who played Beverly Goldberg couldn't have made it a more welcoming environment if she tried and Sean Giambrone who I did most of my work with, who played Adam was incredible and now he's on the on solar opposites. I hear him swearing all the time on solar opposites and I'm like so strange to me to hear Adam Goldberg swearing Great

Jeff Dwoskin 4:09

show the goal but he's been one of the few shows of recent to go that kind of distance

Dan Bakkedahl 4:14

10 years 10 years and not because it got the kind of viewership that the Big Bang got. It's not like it was a huge viewership. It was just, it was just so well done. Every episode they found a way to bring that I always laid on Modern Family, but I suppose it existed long before them but like this silly, it's ridiculous. It's idiotic. And then they hit you with pulling on the heartstrings. And you go, Oh, I love these people.

Jeff Dwoskin 4:40

That's that's good storytelling. Yeah, no kidding. I mean, it'll be one of those shows that we'll just keep rediscovering that's it's a nice time to live in a world where you can just rediscover all these old shows or events that you've kind of just missed. No kidding. So I want to actually I wanted to kick off because I Was I love this scene and Barry were you get popped in the head like and I just wanted to ask you about that it's just like one episode and you just go down I mean shot in the head. Yep,

Dan Bakkedahl 5:12

well I gotta say I have had a long history of getting shot in the head punching ahead bottle broken over my head got my fingers cut off got shot in the foot. I mean I want to make like a super tape on YouTube of just the images of me getting hit punched slap shot and so forth. That's the second time I got shot in the head in the heat I got shot in the head as well I've been shot in the face on made for love but shot strat squaring the head that guy's dead there's no doubt about it. I think they enjoy killing me or people enjoy watching guys like me get hurt I think is

Jeff Dwoskin 5:50

what is it with these casting agents they're they're like we got Oh no, I gotta take this guy out. I

Dan Bakkedahl 5:55

but I also leave I lean into it too you know like I'm like canopy you know canopy in the face can I go down like boom like a sack of rocks instead of like you know canopy like he just dropped me but that scene here's what I'll say. Bill Hader directed that episode starting that episode, you know, obviously wrote bunch, obviously he's producing blah, blah, blah, right? Hanging out in between takes like, it's not like I know, Bill real well, but we both started in New York at the same time I was on The Daily Show. He was on SNL and we all had friends in common John lots Jason Sudeikis. They were like our bridges. And Bill managed to hang out shoot the shit at the on the set to while he's directing it and then go in there and shoot those scenes that are incredibly taxing because he's sweating profusely. He's hiding. He's hyperventilating, all that kind of stuff. We were done by lunch, and it looks great. And how many people die guy in the ceiling. The security guard. Five federal agent in that room dies everybody but Barry dies. Yeah, so like eight people die. That usually means it's going to take seven hours for a person to die. And I don't know how they did it. But they did it beautifully. And they did it really efficiently and everyone around me other than I think David can remember his last name but one of the other ball guys in there. Everyone else was a stunt performer, some actor, you know their acts too, but they were doing stunts. So yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 7:14

everyone got shot, and then Fred Armisen fingers blew off, too. Yes, yes. I can go back in time, Dan. When did you know you were hilarious and wanted to be an actor and improv and like what's?

Dan Bakkedahl 7:30

Well, that's like five questions. I knew I wanted to do improv once I saw improv. So I'll work backwards from there because that was kind of like the last step was, I think I'm going to do improv and then everything else happened. But I wanted to be an actor. Because I, I loved it. I loved doing it. We had a VHS tape, my brothers, my two older brothers made a Twilight Zone parody called the toilet zone, and I wasn't allowed to be in it. And I was furious. So I went and made my own laugh in the next day, I took tape, and I set up and I did laugh and sketches and everything. One man, pretty bad. But I was eight. And I knew I love doing it. And then I discovered man, the people on the couch will laugh at anything if you have the guts to do it. So I would that was my book reports all through middle school in high school were my book report today is turn the lights off, please. We're gonna play a video. And here's my video. So I knew I wanted to do it. But I didn't think he could make a living. And I had a teacher and Florida State University named Michael Richie who said, yeah, you can make a living at this if you actually apply yourself. And I went, Oh, man. Alright, I'll try to apply myself. And that's that took me to Chicago. Because I was looking for improv. I did a theater company that toured the country for 10 months. And we went through Chicago and I saw the second city and I went, Man, I want to work here. I want to work in this place. Look at the pictures on the wall. I mean, the pictures on the wall, say at all. I just knew if I got here, I could do this. And then I'd wind up where they are. I'm pretty close. I didn't quite get there.

Jeff Dwoskin 8:59

done very well for yourself, sir.

Dan Bakkedahl 9:02

But we can't compare me to Keegan Michael Key and Tina Fey who were people that were there while I was there. And then of course, Mike Myers and Farley and Gilda Radner and on and on and on. It's absurd. The level of fame and glory these people have achieved. But you know what? I liked my anonymity. I like being Hey, I think that's that guy. You know, and then I'm gone. I'm already gone. It's too late. They don't know my name. They don't know anything. It's great. When

Jeff Dwoskin 9:27

you were in Chicago, what was you didn't start off at Second City, right?

Dan Bakkedahl 9:31

No, I started doing theater. I was just doing non equity. So non union, storefront theater, just you do one and as soon as that thing had a wrap party, you'd look in the back of the Chicago Reader or the performing can you go what's the next play? I got audition for three this week. And let's see what one bytes and then that's what I'll be doing for the next four months. And then I took time off to do improv classes and I never came back to theater because it I knew it. I had friends that open a theater if you know if you ever heard of dot dad's garage. It's in Atlanta. Been around for 20 years. 30 years. I don't know how long, long time and they were all friends of mine from Florida State and they were improvisers. And when I saw them doing what they were doing, I went, That's what I wanted to. How do you do that? And that's how I found Chicago. And that's and then Chicago led to auditions for Mad TV, SNL Daily Show, etc. The

Jeff Dwoskin 10:24

learning process of improv. How long did it take before you were built up the chops to a

Dan Bakkedahl 10:31

no joke? No joke, Jeff reading, truth and comedy, which is Sharna Halpern improv book, which is like the level one improv book, reading it right now. So in a way, never done. I felt confident the first day I got on stage because I already knew how to walk around on stage. And I already knew the purpose of storytelling from the stage. So I thought the teachers were telling me you don't have to worry about funny just worry about being believable. I was like, oh, done. I'm done. I already know how to do this. And my teacher said, yeah, it looks like you do. And I got a mild stroke was one of the teachers that I owe back then. And he said, you want to do a show. And we started doing a two man show for nobody. And a year later, we had standing remotely, we built a big, huge, really great show zones. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Which apparently, is not a made up word, but a German word for swamp, which we didn't know. And it's so perfect for the type of show that we did. I mean, it was a very, it was two guys basically arguing, arguing over a quarter. You know, like, that's my quarters by quarter, aka you. So I got that. It's just idiotic. But it was really fun. And I learned a ton. I mean, stage time is more valuable than anything else. So this is pure pure improv. Oh, yeah. It's one. It's it's Can we have a suggestion of a line of poetry or a lyric from a song and someone goes, don't come around here? No more. And then Myles, and I started a scene, which is basically one of us going, I thought I told you stay away from you know, like, just a couple of angry dudes in an alleyway. Fighting over a quarter is what somebody said once.

Jeff Dwoskin 12:09

That's amazing. Yeah, from there, then you kind of connected with then became part of that can city? Yeah,

Dan Bakkedahl 12:15

well, my second city, I did training at the Second City at their training center, which is just classes, you just improvise on a Saturday afternoon for three hours in the classroom. But it's fun, and it's experience. And then I went away from there for a couple of years to work only at IO. And then I then I came back Second City and I toured and then I did the 90, review on the mainstage, which is their big theater, you know, so I did exactly what I came to town to do quit that job in a in a really ugly departure. It's, well, it's like this divisive thing in my life, where it's like, I've got half of the people in my life think I was an asshole for doing it. And the other half are like, Hey, man, thank you for being a champion. And it was the the second city had just written up a deal with a film studio, a Hollywood film studio, which shall remain nameless, unless we give a shit, I don't care but and we had to be a part of it. And I was like, I don't want to be a part of that I didn't come here to generate ideas to use on stage that some studio might use as a TV show. And then let's give all the details. The money would be cut in half, half of it would go to the studio, the other half would go to the second city. And then the second city would take this sliver of it and say here and share it amongst the six cast members of the show. And I thought, now, man, if I create a show, I'm creating a show I'm not forgetting and they said this is the deal, or else you don't work here. And so I quit. First I said, I'll go back on stage, I went on stage, I broke my hand on stage, which is common if you punch a wall, you break your hand. So that's what I did. I punched a wall

Jeff Dwoskin 13:50

up onto the wall. symptoms may include

Dan Bakkedahl 13:53

Yeah, symptoms may include Broken Hand and discovery that you have a drinking problem. So truly, that is what happened. And I went and I got sober. I quit drinking and kind of started focusing on it more like what I think Michael Ricci had in mind when he told me that like if you can, you know, really commit yourself to this. I wasn't committing I was on autopilot in a weird way that the most tragic and stupid thing I had done to that point in my life was actually the best thing that happened to me because it forced my hand to really commit again to the work and not just be like along for the ride because I think it's my destiny.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:26

When you look back at that moment to you. I mean, because it sounds like you're making the right decision. Like for like a creative integrity. Yeah. Would you do the same thing today? Yeah,

Dan Bakkedahl 14:37

but I would have given them to two weeks I would have said Hey, guys, I can't do this. Oh, I have to or I'm gone. Well, then, let's, who am I putting in because I'm leaving. And that would have been really cool. Because then I could have come back two years later or whatever. Because I've so badly wanted to do another show at the Second City because I only did the one and I was let's I'll be honest I was wasted and I I would like an opportunity to do it with a clear head. Now, it's been way too many years, you know, it's been 20 years since I left. So I probably aged out of the squad. But that's the only reason I think I would like to have done. I mean, I'd like to have done it correctly, because it's the right way to do it. Now that I understand the value of just being a better person, then you don't have to clean it up, then you've already cleaned it up. But everything is clean now. Everything's cool. But that would be the one reason I think,

Jeff Dwoskin 15:27

did they end up using anything that you create it to make a TV show

Dan Bakkedahl 15:30

now, what they wound up using was some of our material to go for a showcase to allow other people to audition. So in a way, they were taking what I had written, and using it for their own purposes, regardless of of gain, they're not paying me. So it's pretty easy. When your labor is free. It's pretty easy to build a house quickly. And I just I you know, that was the day that when I found out that they were using it for the showcases the day that I went, Oh, that's we got to finish this show. But as soon as we're done with this show, I'm done. I'm out of here, you know, I'm not going to walk out on the audience. But I will walk out on you guys tomorrow.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:08

So that must have been disappointing that to have something you wanted. And then it kind of it and oh yeah, away.

Dan Bakkedahl 16:14

Well, the good thing about Jeff is I don't know how much life you've got. But in my life, that's pretty much the way most things have gone, which is like don't get that thing you want so badly. Is it's way better as a as a brass ring that it is actual, achievable thing, enjoy the things you're currently doing. I like to say that but then, you know, being in a position where it's like we're coming out of a big long strike, work is really slow coming out of it. Just enjoy where you are. It's like, yeah, I don't know, I wish I'd been a chef. People never stopped eating food even during the pandemic. That

Jeff Dwoskin 16:48

is true. That is true. I always thought it'd be great to be able to sing, like versus doing stand up comedy, because I always felt like, I was always envious that like someone with musical talent could just be somewhere and people accept the fact that they're only not listening, but they still enjoy it. Oh, that was nice. Because I heard right. You know, it was comedy, like they'd need to listen. And so it was like, I was like, Oh, those those those musicians, they got it made.

Dan Bakkedahl 17:13

They got it made man except there's also that the problem with them too. And I think all of our works and lines of trajectory are subject to opinion, rather than like sport, where we probably got the best field goal kickers out there. Unfortunately, one of them's a fucking raging prick. But, you know, we got the best guys are working. There's no great field goal kicker who's like, well, I guess I'll cut lawns. You know, I mean, it's very few of them. That's what you call a meritocracy, I guess or, or what you would call it, but we're not in that. There's just so many unknowns and uncontrollable factors. So

Jeff Dwoskin 17:51

we leave, we leave Second City and auditioning for daily show Saturday Night Live. There was one mad TV I think mad TV. Yeah. We know you got the Daily Show. Did you get close with the other two? Or it was just kind of you did it. And then

Dan Bakkedahl 18:07

No, I they stopped me before I was done with my mad TV audition. And I was like, wait a minute, and they went, No, you're good. And I said, I worked really hard on this. I'm finishing. I mean, I'm sorry. I know. I sound like a dick. But I'm sorry. You asked us to do all this work, and then come to this day. And it's extremely stressful. And we're sitting in a room with all of our best friends in town. And we're all competing, and we can all hear each other. And you're not going to let me finish I got 30 seconds left, I've taken more time to argue with you then it would have taken to finish. So I finished obviously didn't get that job probably didn't make a friend. I made a similar impression. I think with SNL where I kind of said as a joke, but also kind of seriously, I said, you know, are you guys actually hiring someone this time around? Are you just here to make us all nervous? But I don't think I said it jokingly enough that they were kind of like, Oh no, we're serious. And they turned away and never said another word to me. And the daily show I didn't meet anyone or say anything. We just did an on camera audition and it went well. But then that experience didn't go well. It wasn't a good fit. I don't think I was meant for that. One. I'm not political to I'm a group performer. I need a group. You know, I'm just not good solo. It's just not what I want to do.

Jeff Dwoskin 19:19

They were trying to fit you into their their hole, I guess. Yeah. And I mean, look, OK,

Dan Bakkedahl 19:24

corral. And Cole bear fit. Well, they're cordery was certainly an improv kid. But you know, group work guy he had done, you know, a lot of UCB stuff. So it's not like they didn't have a precedent set. It's just that I personally didn't have the mindset of like, I'd also just quit drinking it just months before I got that job. So it was like anything I was doing was like, How do I walk down the street in New York without getting drunk? No excuses, but that's a fact. And just wasn't a good fit. You know? Because like the things I would pitch were kind of like, Yeah, well, we don't do that. gonna be like, alright, shit. Okay. Let me try it this way then. And then it was kind of like, could someone handle this? Almost like Could someone come over and talk to you keep him busy until his contracts up and then I was gone. So, okay,

Jeff Dwoskin 20:13

you weren't fitting in. They weren't feeling if I have it. Yeah, it's,

Dan Bakkedahl 20:17

it's fascinating. How did I get from all that chaos to this incredibly unstable position I'm in right now. It's really unbelievable. But yeah, I mean, it's just it is what it is, you know, you get hired for a job, you do the best. I don't believe in asking how high you want me to jump. I just jump as high as I can. And then you direct me and they didn't really have directors there at The Daily Show. It was kind of like, you get it or you go, and that's what it is. And that's the way SNL is to From all reports. That

Jeff Dwoskin 20:43

was early on. You did also did law and order and at 30 rock.

Dan Bakkedahl 20:49

Yeah, well, I was in New York. So yeah, I got to do Flight of the Conchords. 230 rock. Yeah. What was the other one? Some Jezebel. James Cameron was like Parker Posey, or someone was the star of it. And it was, I don't think they aired 10 episodes.

Jeff Dwoskin 21:02

But Jezebel, James, there

Dan Bakkedahl 21:05

you go. That's it. And was a right is it Parker Posey? I met her it's not like I didn't meet the star of the show. But I can't

Jeff Dwoskin 21:13

Yeah, it's hard. Any Posey Lauren? Yeah, Rose. Yeah. Yeah. And

Dan Bakkedahl 21:17

I met her dog too. Anyway, you know, I mean, it was like I was doing my agents are great, because they were like, you're unhappy there. They clearly aren't happy with what you're doing. Because they're not, they didn't use me. I mean, most correspondents on The Daily Show are getting on twice a week, you know, there's three of them. And they're getting on twice a week, doing a field piece and a stand up piece. And I was getting on once every two weeks. The message was clear. We're not happy with how you do what you do, and we'll use you when we need you. But otherwise, maybe find another job. And so that's what I did. I was doing, I was going off and doing movies and TV and stuff. And then that's we left when that show was over. We left and moved to Los Angeles for the writer strike of oh seven in 208.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:00

Okay, so you move the family across country? Yep.

Dan Bakkedahl 22:02

So once again, how did all that stability turn into this mass you're asking? Well, stay tuned.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:10

Well, you ended up working with Carell. You did at the office. Oh yeah.

Dan Bakkedahl 22:14

Oh my God. Man. I worked with Carell three times. And incredibly sweet. Very quiet. Like not a he and I and Lisa Kudrow. Were sitting around doing a Space Force episode. And she and I were talking talking talking about Veep about friends about the office about him to him. And then he would finally respond like he was very, very nonchalant about I don't know about shy, but he's just keeps it in, I guess. But nice. And yeah, I, of course, wanted to talk about Second City because so much of the stuff I did when I toured with Second City was stuff that chorale and Kobe air. And Dave was asking God to do Scott Adsit these guys all wrote the things that I toured. That's awesome. Yeah. And that's fun to get a chance to pick their brain about it. And they go, I don't remember 38 years ago or something. It's

Jeff Dwoskin 23:04

funny how things just come out of you. And then you just you forget that. Yeah. Yeah, of course. So I Well, that's awesome. Then so the next big thing is while you are Oh, immunity Marie. They see repairman? Yeah. It's something that was something

Dan Bakkedahl 23:21

that was like, the crazy thing was that it was it would turn up like, Hey, there's this episode. And it maybe there's more than one. But anyway, can you do it? And I would be like, I get to play with John Goodman. Yeah, I'm in. Like, that's my boss I'm in. So you know, sometimes it's that it wasn't even that I watched the show or that I loved Harman or anything. It had nothing to do with anything other than like, well, one. There's a job. Yeah, I'll do it, too. It's with John Goodman. That sounds cool. And I had had a goal at that time of like, I want to do like two episodes of the same show. And then it was like, oh, I want to come back in two separate seasons of the same show. Like I didn't you know, I don't know what's going on. I'm just goals to keep myself from going insane.

Jeff Dwoskin 24:02

That whole thread though. The underground AC thing with good man, the IV. I was just pretty great. Community was just brilliant. Well, until it was yeah, like, right. But yeah, but those first seasons. I mean, those first like four or five seasons. Yeah,

Dan Bakkedahl 24:18

I think it was four. Yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 24:19

I like amazing. Amazing. It was really something. Wait, did you get to hang out with Betty White and Hot in Cleveland?

Dan Bakkedahl 24:27

Yes, Betty White stopped me and said you're quite good at this. And I was like, Oh my God, thank you. I had a small I watched it recently. It happened to be on something and I was like, I think this is my EP This is my episode in the my scene started. I couldn't believe it. And I watched it the whole thing and I went, I thought I was in that thing. I had like two lines. And then later I had one line and then later I sat there in the corner like angrily not saying anything. And she was like you're quite good. This. I got I got met all of them. They were all like Lovely. There's plenty of horror stories out there. I'll probably just have to say, no comment if we get to one. Now I

Jeff Dwoskin 25:06

need one because well, what do I need a horror story? Alright, so just randomly be saying so.

Dan Bakkedahl 25:12

Yeah, just keep going and you'll find me going like, Ah, god. All right. Well, I'll

Jeff Dwoskin 25:18

try to be cool. But I so so your episode of curb?

Dan Bakkedahl 25:22

Oh god I'm kidding. No comment. No, I'm kidding. Yeah, go ahead.

Jeff Dwoskin 25:27

You got it you got it that was a good one. I mean you got to record Ricky Gervais I think Chris Parnell was in that Chris Parnell.

Dan Bakkedahl 25:33

Garland and Larry David. Yeah. Yeah. And that was that was Larry Charles had directed a pilot and wrote a pilot that I did the first pilot I ever did. It didn't go anywhere. And I think kind of as would that be a mia culpa? I don't know what it would be anyway, to make up for it. He was like, Hey, we got to roll on curb, it shoots in New York, you'll have to get yourself out here and put yourself up. And I thought, Well, I'm not working. And you maybe only get one chance to be on curb. I'll do it. And you get there. And they, they don't give you a script, they give you like a piece of paper that has your character description on it. You were the waiter, and you took their orders, and you came back so late, that they already grabbed their own food. And your big exception is Do you understand I am the waiter. And then they say, but we were waiting. And everything else is improvised. Right? And I was terrified. I kind of knew garland because he was at Second City the night I quit. Oh, great, great, strong connection. I didn't know Larry David at all, but I knew Larry Charles. And he was directing along with Mandel and I can't remember they called him the twins. And there was three guys that direction. Same time. Maybe we shave her but and it went great. And Ricky was on and Garland was on. And they were doing bits and acting like idiots in between takes and it was really fun to sit around a watch. Like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm here. I can't believe how much my hotel room costs. But I can't believe I'm here. It was really cool. Everyone was great. Good times.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:03

That's awesome. Everyone has a great story from curb. I have. Yeah, sorry. Let me I'm just gonna keep randomly. Alright, the first time maybe this is the first time you played a dentist. And this is 40. Yeah, that

Dan Bakkedahl 27:16

would be the that was the first time. And I remember too that it was because of the scene. It was. What's her name? It's judge wife. I forget or forget name. Now I know he is. But she's the star of the film. She is she and Paul Rudd. Leslie Mann. Yeah. Leslie was kind of like, you know, it makes some jokes, do some stuff. And I was like, It's not that we got to go back and forth. I don't just spit out jokes. Just I don't have it. I don't It's not what I do. If we're going back and forth, I'll go all day. But if it's just me saying funny stuff to you, I'm in big trouble. That's just not what I do. Right. Right. But they were cool as hell. And of course, you know, I mean, the chance to work with Judd was of course, I'm going to jump at that. You know, it's it's out of the blue like, oh my god, this is incredible. And this is all before. I think that's before Veep came along so or maybe I had already done my one first episode of Veep. Because Veep is that show that once I did that, and it aired because I did that in like November of whatever it was 2010 and then it aired the following spring. But once I that aired, I started getting all kinds of work, just because they were like, we want that asshole from Veep. Who was that guy? That was the jerk. And that's how I got the heat. And that's how I got there was a few jobs that came along that were like, oh, The Mindy Project, like these were jobs that were like the guy from VT. Just get that guy.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:36

So do you like playing the jerk is oh, God, I love it. It's fun, right? It's so

Dan Bakkedahl 28:42

great. I understand why Larry David created an entire show where he gets to be the Crabby prick because it's cathartic to be able to go like I really do believe these things. I would never say it out loud. But I do believe the following things. And here they are.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:57

Oh, man, that's a flight. So after Oh, so well. This is 40 what that was that was kind of the spin off of one of the other Seth Rogen movies which you you did Seth Rogen movie to observe and report Yeah,

Dan Bakkedahl 29:09

yeah observing report was earlier on. I mean, I got that right out of the when I first got here. I booked that movie and I thought oh, man, here we go. Seth Rogen on a Ferris Ray Liotta Jody Hills directing this thing. He wrote it it's foot fist way it's all the Eastbound and Down all of it. This is I'm in this is the mafia. And I did one weird movie that not enough people watch that, I think is a really great film. But, you know, it was a weird experience too, because that was right off the Daily Show. That was the first thing I did off the Daily Show. And I did I had zero confidence in myself because I was sure that they were right. I just didn't know how to perform almost like you don't know how to be funny so you can go now Now you're gonna go do this comedy film with people who are just, you know, Ray Liotta at one point was like, can we just do one the way it's written, man. I mean, like, can we just do one can he'd just say the words like, you know, and then they'd be like, yeah, and Seth and be like, Oh, of course. Sorry. And then we do one as it scripted. But you can see Seth is just bursting at the seams to fuck with him. You know? I don't know why that movie didn't I guess Paul Blart came out at the same time, the exact same time. And you've got Seth Rogen in a dark comedy about a mall cop who lives with his sad old mom doing coke in the bathroom with the other security guard. And you've got Paul Blart, which is, you know, it's comic book versus hardback novel? You know, I mean, it was just like, it just doesn't, there's no comparison. We're screwed. We're dead in the water. And I think the second Fast and the Furious movie came out the same week. And that doesn't matter in today's world, because it's out and it's out. But back then it still mattered. Like you bombed week one you bombed. Everybody knows you bombed. The reviews are. I don't know what to make of this thing. And it's like, yeah, today, I think it would be it would do really well. In a weird world like this.

Jeff Dwoskin 31:01

Sometimes movies like that. They just they find their they find their own way and become just kind of classics on their own.

Dan Bakkedahl 31:09

Yeah, don't get me wrong. I think Seth has had six movies way better than that. And I think Jodi's had three or four projects way better than that film. It's not that it was the greatest thing ever. But it was good enough to have done well, and it didn't get a chance to

Jeff Dwoskin 31:24

as we're kind of coming into the timeline. You're about to get legit. And then Veep is gonna Yeah, yeah. This is somewhere in between those. I just want to say you were on one of my favorite shows. Brooklyn 990. Yeah. You did one. Lieutenant Andrew Miller. Yeah. You were fighting with Kara's Cedric's character. Yeah. I just, we just binge watch that show again. Yeah, that was just fun to see.

Dan Bakkedahl 31:54

That was a really fun. I mean, the single cam comedy being shot and run in Los Angeles at a studio is the greatest gig in the world. When I worked on Life in Pieces, James Brolin, who's been working longer than I've been alive, not being hyperbolic. That's a fact. He was like, Don't fool yourself, kids. This is the best job in showbusiness, because you're showing up at this nice little place with all your stuff in place. And that was what like Brooklyn nine nine had that feel like people that were like, oh, no, we know we got a good. We're at CBS Radford. You know, right in the middle of Valley. Everyone lives in the damn Valley. And it's nothing to get here and you can walk to McDonald's. It's great. And

Jeff Dwoskin 32:36

it's so funny. And it was yeah, the sad part about watching it was knowing Andre Brower had, yes, recently died. And I mean, they're all brilliant, but he's brilliant. And that, well, yeah, he's

Dan Bakkedahl 32:47

such an he's such an actor, right? I mean, the rest of the cast are comedic actors. And he's an actor. And I love when I see that like, Leslie Nielsen comes in and suddenly kills comedy for the last 20 years of his life or whatever. And a guy like Andre Brower, where you go, I've worked with Isaiah Whitlock a couple times to come to think of it. He's another guy who's like a he's a dramatic actor, and he doesn't change anything and does comedy and it works great. She, she on and on.

Jeff Dwoskin 33:18

Exactly. Yeah, so Okay, so I see you get legit. So we talked about a little bit and then Veep. You know, you're you're gonna you're from Cleveland. That's yeah, I'm in Detroit so not too far. And then you get to play this amazing douchebag I guess asshole. Like yeah, for a lot a lot on Veep. Oh, you know what I want to say like life and pieces. I noticed an idea the famous people come to you like the Tom Hanks and Julia Louis Dreyfus come to you and say, work with our kids. And we know we're gonna trust them with you because we think you're awesome. I wish

Dan Bakkedahl 33:53

because I'd be like Hey, tell your tell your parents to pour some of their large fortunes into making sure this show keeps going.

Jeff Dwoskin 34:00

Is your colonics and then later rehaul and your most Yeah, yeah.

Dan Bakkedahl 34:06

And funny crossover there is right after Veep wrapped the final season we had an error that yet I got a handwritten ham typed letter in the mail with a stamp on it from Tom Hanks. And I don't know Tom Hanks. I still don't know Tom Hanks. I worked with Colin for four years. I don't know Tom Hanks, and I got a letter typed on his typewriter. Speaking of how much he first of all loved Veep. But the character in particular going into great detail a letter I keep Of course of course but like just this strange we go like what the fuck that's who's watching the show? I didn't you know, because nobody really watched that show. It was very popular with people in the business. It was not big in Moline, which is in Iowa, I think, present Illinois. One of them What do you know? Well, fact. Yeah. Well,

Jeff Dwoskin 34:57

I'll run a disclaimer at the end of the show. Thank you. Appreciate that. But it's cool though they have a lot. Oh, yeah, thanks.

Dan Bakkedahl 35:05

Oh my god, I'm not complaining kind of bragging actually. But but also just like, there's that weird crossover that then I went and wound up working with his son like very shortly thereafter so it wasn't the final season I must have been the second to last when we were on a big break because Julius diagnosis we had a, basically a year off. And then after she was in remission, or I don't know exactly the terms of this, but once we went back, I had already started working on life and pieces. So it must have been before that,

Jeff Dwoskin 35:35

how is working? I mean, the entire cast every I mean, you could name off a million people that are all hilarious, but I mean, she's like one of the greatest. I mean, I'll say actresses, but I mean like just what she's Yeah, I

Dan Bakkedahl 35:47

think. I think she's top five, top three, top two all time. I think she's interchangeable top two with put it in whoever you want. In television. I think she's up there. She's a hitman. She's so brilliant. And also, you know, I mean, like that show, I think, as great as she is, that show was so well written that I almost feel like a bunch of chimpanzees could have had vocal boxes in implant and pulled that, that show off. It was so beautifully written. Just the scripts themselves are actually funny. Not like, okay, insert laugh probably here, I think, but more like, oh my god, laughing on a plane on the way to Baltimore to shoot an episode laughing reading the script

Jeff Dwoskin 36:30

must have been such an amazing, just terrifying.

Dan Bakkedahl 36:33

Well, it was terrifying. Because first, my experience was daily show that didn't go well. Second City that didn't go well. Then I went on to observe and report didn't go well. And I'm like, Oh, my God, I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to do. I'm doing this weird show with Jim Jefferies. And I don't know what to make of it. I'm having a great time. But I don't know if anybody's going to understand this show. I now know it's beautiful and hilarious. But then it seemed odd. And I didn't was a weird little house in Venice. Now I'm standing toe to toe with arguably the greatest comedic mind, certainly in my generation. And maybe of all time in television, and I have to be the bully. Like, I just got tossed around for three years. I don't know how to be the bully. And so in a way, I just kind of like on the first audition that I did with her, I thought, I'm just gonna attack. They're gonna have to throw me out of the room then. But I'm going to attack. And I'm not going to let up and I'm going to see what happens. And she laughed uproariously and said, Can we start again and then we started again. And she said, keep that don't change it. You know, like, it was really cool to work with someone who have been directed by other actors. And I kind of go like, Can you do me a favor and not do that? Please don't do that. Don't don't direct me man. That's fucking weird. But with her it never for a second felt like direction. It just felt like someone I respected was saying been where you are, you're very close, stay on that track, but turn here. And we got this. It's what I felt like I was missing it. The Daily Show was all I needed was a little direction. And I got a little direction from Julia, the first scene we did. That's great that she's so giving. Yeah. And that's the other thing is that, like, if you do or say something funny, and you're with a big star, sometimes that joke can become theirs the next day, and you just go okay, you know, but Julia instead, like, I hate to use the old term, but she Yes. And did it. I did a bit where we were rehearsing. She's talking, and I just kind of go like, ah, can I get some water over here, like, while she's talking, I turn away and ask for water from my assistant. And she kind of like sits up straight in your chair and goes up. I want water to like, the scene falls apart and turns into us both wanting water and who's gonna get it quicker. And then we go back to the scene. And that was just in rehearsal. And then it made it into the show. And it was her taking this dumb thing I was doing which was just me as a terrified actor trying to survive, and she turned it into a hilarious bit.

Jeff Dwoskin 38:58

So they would take the improv that you guys would do and work it right into the scripts. Oh, you were in the editing the show.

Dan Bakkedahl 39:05

The process on Veep was like nothing else. The first four seasons when Armando Iannucci was the showrunner, his process was we'd come out there, do a table read, then you get up on your feet, the script in your hand, and work through scenes one at a time. And eventually they'd say, I put the script down. And now let's do that scene. Again. Keep this in mind. Don't worry about the script. Just do whatever you have to and we would discover funny bits. Julia and I a couple of years later had a bit about Silence of the Lambs and being hungry and whatever. And it was all from the improv we did in the rehearsal process. And then it was in the script. That

Jeff Dwoskin 39:42

is, that's awesome. That must feel pretty good. That must feel great.

Dan Bakkedahl 39:46

It does. It does except when I go never got paid as a writer. The truth I mean, same thing on the Daily Show, I had that issue where I was like, wait a minute, I go on the road and do this field piece. I'm saying all of this. There. is a piece of paper, but, um, rewording and revision and improvising. And I never got credited as a writer. I don't think I'm the smartest writers that read don't get me wrong. The writers on both of those shows, certainly were writers and I was not. But sometimes you go when I improvise, aren't I writing? Yeah, but I will happily do it.

Jeff Dwoskin 40:20

Sorry, I didn't want to have to take a quick break. I do want to thank everyone for their support of the sponsors. When you support the sponsors. You're supporting us here at glance at conversations. And that's how we keep the lights on. And now back to my conversation with Dan Bakkedahl. I want to talk about dinner with the parents. But before I went, I did have to ask you did one other one off history of the world? Part Two? Oh, yeah. And you were Winston Churchill? Yes. And I mean, for those of us that saw and lived with history of the world, part one for many, many, many years. You know, finally, the promise sequel that was always promised at the end. Yeah, of the original you and the gang at Hulu finally brought to fruition. So how was it? What was Mel Brooks there? Did you get to actually engage with him? Or was it just exciting to be kind of part of this? For me, I

Dan Bakkedahl 41:10

just wanted to be a part of it. Also, I and David and Nick, the guys that were running the show, they were all friends, both from the improv community in New York and from Chicago and Ike and I had worked together on Mindy Project and a couple other things throughout the years. And I was like, God, yeah, of course, I'll do it. And I love I was a child of history of the world. Part one, I rode my bike there, and I watched it and I came out going, there's gonna be a sequel. Like, we were sure that this sequel was coming, and then it never came. And yeah, it's the face. I mean, exactly. I was Hitler on ice. Yeah. It was ridiculous. And it was, the beauty was, it was like, it wasn't for the money. It wasn't for the glory. It wasn't for anything other than to be like, I got to be a part of this thing. That's really cool. It's kind of like when Jon Stewart did his last daily show the first time around, and he brought us all back. And I didn't have good feelings about my time there. But I went of course, I'm gonna go this is an opportunity to be a part of something cool. Not for anyone else to say, hey, that's cool. But for me to be like, I got to be there. Springsteen was in the building. I hung out next to little Steven like I was in a element that I didn't belong in. I'll take it and the same thing with with history of the world was like, Well, if I don't get to meet Mel, if I don't get to have the funniest bit, whatever, I don't give a shit. I get to do this thing with people I love and admire. And it's something for my charm in awesome.

Jeff Dwoskin 42:32

Yeah, it was. It was really, really funny. I doubt will be a part three, but like, well, I don't think so. No, think I think we're good with. Yeah, the two parter now. So now right now you're starring on freebies, new show dinner with parents. That's right. I watched it. I got to see an early screening of it. I enjoyed it a lot. So like I, you were hilarious. Everyone's hilarious. I did. I wrote down something because I talked to Mikayla and I wrote this down because I wanted to read

Dan Bakkedahl 43:00

it to you. Yeah, you gotta cross reference, because she probably lied to you a lot.

Jeff Dwoskin 43:04

This is this is this is so nice. She was talking about the process of being I guess, whatever the process of when she became aware of the show. Yeah, she was told that you were going to most likely be offered and play the role of Harvey, her husband, and she had worked together with you before. And that was one of the key pieces of her saying yes to the show, just knowing that you are going to be there and be a part of it. So I thought that was pretty cool.

Dan Bakkedahl 43:31

Yeah, it's a, it's a mutual experience, really, which is the strange thing about it was because at first I said, who's directing or whatever, they said, Tristram Shapiro who directed a couple of my community episodes, and I was like I'm in, right. And I said, Well, wait a minute, who's going to be the wife? Because that can be a long, difficult engagement if you know, and they said, Mikayla Watkins, and I said, as long as she's getting paid the same as me, I'm in. And I didn't mean that like, as long as I'm getting what Mikayla is getting, I meant, like, I don't want to see Mikayla getting paid less than me or some weird shit like happens. I don't know, maybe I should just keep my mouth shut when it comes to that stuff. But I felt like I'll say it out loud rather than wish I had said it. And they were like, we'll keep that in mind. Because they're not going to tell me, but I really was like, Don't that doesn't mean keep me down. It means bring her up if you're not. Anyway, that being said, thank God for Mikayla. I mean, she and Carol Kane on that show. For me. It was again, like going back to a master class of watching two people who know how to do the thing that they do like nobody else does. And the beauty too is that then they go, I don't know. Was that any good? And he Oh, thank God. everybody's worried that they're lousy. And they're not. They're great.

Jeff Dwoskin 44:49

They're all great. You guys. Oh, yeah. This is based on a UK show. Friday Night Dinner. Did you watch it? Were you aware of that beforehand? No.

Dan Bakkedahl 44:59

You know, I do tried to but all that was available was little clips on YouTube and like one preview episode on Amazon, ironically. And then I was like, Well, I'm not going to spend money to watch the show, I'll just do what is in the script. And then they even said, Don't bother watch the show. It's not. It's not we're not doing that. I think that the tone of that British show was really unique. And I would like to have seen how an American audience would react to it. But I don't know that a really dry forest would fly in the state. So I don't know why. But you know, the jury's still out on this show on whether or not it's getting, you know, we're, we're out there now, all 10 episodes are out and available. So it's, now we're in that proving ground where if people show up and watch, then you'll be back. And if they don't, then you won't?

Jeff Dwoskin 45:45

Do you have any idea how it's doing?

Dan Bakkedahl 45:47

I don't know. I mean, this Listen, with streaming. We've always been like, well, we're completely in the dark, who knows. But I tend to think there are certain indicators, like a show that I've never watched that continually shows up on my feed or on my homepage is not a show that I'm asking for. It's a show that the algorithm is giving me. And if they're doing that with our show for people, then we'll be great, because people will turn on. They're not doing that. I don't think you can survive without the algorithm nowadays. Unfortunately,

Jeff Dwoskin 46:19

I know a lot of some of the greatest American shows were based on UK shows, right? Yeah. The difference being now that people can see those shows or probably have seen they have britbox or something right when the family came out, no one had ever seen till death do us part or whatever it was right. Right. When you take on a show like this now where it is an adaption. I won't say rebounds and adaption. But like, is there any trepidation in that? Are you like now I just we went into it just it's its own thing based on I just similar promise?

Dan Bakkedahl 46:52

Yeah, any trepidation I had came too late. Like I at one point, reached out to Mikhail, and I went, Oh, my God, what if? And she's like, what, what if we should all over time honored classic that another country's had, and the guy just died? And that's why they stopped doing it. And now we're doing another version? That is awful. I said, Yes. And she said, that's always the risk. If that any show that's the risk, it's the same fucking risk. And look, some shows, I think they were awfully generous with the office, because at the beginning, I didn't think that show stood a chance. Because all I could see was this is not the office. That's all I saw. And they gave it enough time. I don't think we're under that same gun, because people aren't passing around copies of Friday Night Dinner, you know, and they're not. They're not It's not like it's screaming to the tops of, of Amazon or anything. So it's not like it's a really popular line. But I think they also did a really good job. John Beckerman, and the rest of the writers and producers of steering get away from being a word for word adaptation and changing some of the stories and changing some of the relationships and keeping the nugget of the show the same, which is every Friday night, this Jewish family gets together to have Friday Night Dinner, it's tradition, it's what they've done. That's about all they're willing to do for tradition, but that's what they do. Right? And they're idiots. And the parents tried too hard. And the kids are both a little skeevy. You know, and the grandmothers got got some weird shit going on. And they kept that stuff the same. But other than that, it's, you know, it's an entirely different show. How

Jeff Dwoskin 48:24

was working with John Glaser? I think he's hilarious. blazers,

Dan Bakkedahl 48:28

great. He's not you know, he's another second city guy. He's from Detroit, but he's a second city guy. You know, it was fascinating for me because I knew the legend of John Glaser. When I got the town he he had just he was just getting ready to leave to go off to write for Conan when I got to, to Chicago. So it was kind of like, there's junk Lazar. And there's Adam McKay. And there's Tina Fey and, and Jen and all of it and Scott Adsit and Scott Allman and all these big names in this small improv community of about 1000 people who care about these six people at the top, so I didn't know him and getting to know him that way. It was really great, especially in a weird place like London it's not it's not home. And it's not only not home, it's not in the same timezone. It's not even the same country or the hemisphere. I mean, it's it's weird man and eight hour time difference is tough with kids. And that's what I had. So having guys like Glaser, Mikayla, the boys, Daniel Thrasher, and, and Henry Hall were tremendous. They didn't seem to miss a beat. They were like, Hey, we live in London, and they're often running. They're not 50 year old men. Well,

Jeff Dwoskin 49:30

there's worse places to be stuck in half to live than God. Yeah, that's Oh, yeah. That's a great place. That is Yeah, I

Dan Bakkedahl 49:37

saw a lot of great music while I was there, and I played a lot of pinball. And it was it was a good experience.

Jeff Dwoskin 49:42

Do you have a favorite episode of dinner with the parents or that were like a scene or something that you remember that like,

Dan Bakkedahl 49:48

I think my favorite out there's so many I just keep thinking of Carol moments where like Carol had to be drunk at the table. And she had to say don't dip it, pop it or whatever it was and she just kept saying don't buy Thank God ah, like she just kept muttering this gibberish over and over again. And I had a hand in my pocket pinching myself on the leg so I wouldn't giggle during her take because you can see me that was probably my favorite, like specific moment. As far as episodes I love the Seder episode. I thought it was not Seder episode. The Shiva episode, I thought was tremendous and ridiculous, but really fun and sweet and honest.

Jeff Dwoskin 50:25

It was that was a really funny when Daniel thrashes character realizes he's supposed to cater his own his own his own Shiva. Shiva at the house. Yeah, it's yeah, not his ship. Not that would be amazing. That would be next season. Yeah. That's a whole different show. Right there. I enjoyed it a lot. There were a lot of things that you recognize John Becker men's things that he experienced that he put it Yeah, right.

Dan Bakkedahl 50:50

Like it's real life stuff. Yeah. And I think that's what's cool about it is it's not John poppers story as the first one is, as Friday Night Dinner is this is John Beckerman story. So it's a different point of view on it. But I really enjoy the fact that they kind of bury the idea that this is really David's story, the older son, this is really his story. He's the reason who's dinner, whose parents are we having dinner with his. And so it's about him. And I think they did a really nice job of fleshing out that character and making him that character that the audience is going to care about the one they're going to relate to. Yeah, so

Jeff Dwoskin 51:23

100%. And this is why I mentioned dentists earlier. You're a dentist and this Yes, yes.

Dan Bakkedahl 51:29

And in Life in Pieces, I was Ear, Nose and Throat. And I've had a few dentists, a few doctors of various odd places. It's never like heart surgeon. It's always like, ear, nose and throat or dentist. They don't they don't trust me with the big stuff.

Jeff Dwoskin 51:43

Neck up, doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, I thought you were hilarious. And like, here's the funny thing. Like I mentioned this to John and Mikayla as well is this is the first time I was watching a show. And it hits me in the middle of it that oh, I'm the parents. I'm not the kids anymore. Like yeah, I've aged out of that. I am the parents and with my dad was it so that's what threw me at first because you play tennis with the dads Dennis. I'm like, Yeah, okay, so that's just in my head. Kind of put me as a kid. And then oh, no, no, no, no, no. I have kids sage.

Dan Bakkedahl 52:17

I'm the me realizing that like, oh, dinner with the parents, who's saying, I gotta have dinner with the parents. Not me. Not Mikayla. Not Carol. It's Daniel and Henry. It's their store Holy shit. But I think they buried that really nicely. Not in any for any nefarious purposes. But just like, it's a cool thing where it's kind of like you think, Oh, it's this family story. It's like, No, this really is their story. It's the story of these boys and their experience. And that's what I think is so fun about it.

Jeff Dwoskin 52:46

I think it's very fun, very hilarious. And I hope I hope we get to see more episodes. I do have one final question. Is there is there anything that we didn't mention that you're like, Oh, this is like one of the favorite my favorite, favorite things? This is one of my favorites that I've done?

Dan Bakkedahl 53:03

I don't know, I've never done this before. So apologies. But I started a podcast that I'm extremely proud of Oh, called Mr. Johnson's time machine. And it's something I did with a bunch of my old improv pals from Chicago. And it's a it's a narrative. It's basically like Peabody and Sherman meets Drunk History. Or some time traveler meets drunk a Bill and Ted meets Drunk History. It's fun, and it's ridiculous. And it's filthy. And it's improvised. So it's, it's very short. I don't know. It's just I just when we made it, I went, that's what I'm fucking talking about. Mr. Johnson's time machine. And it's linear. So you got to start at episode one. Don't start in the middle. You wonder what the hell's going on?

Jeff Dwoskin 53:43

I will. I will check that out. Is there any? In addition to that excellently placed plug in I'll put a link in the show notes and all that kind of Oh, that'd be awesome. Thank you. Happy to do that for Yeah. But is there is there any like scene or show like that you were in that we didn't discuss that? You'd be like, this is when you got to check out.

Dan Bakkedahl 54:03

I just did an episode of Tulsa king with Stallone Season Two. Yes. Oh, yes. And I can't say anything else. But I'm very excited about that. I do really enjoy that show. I think Andrew savage and the hell's his name for Freaks and Geeks. And he was on Life in Pieces. But Martin star, I think they're both brilliant. And I think sly is really great in the show.

Jeff Dwoskin 54:28

Jose kings is amazing. That thankfully just said there's going to be a season two for sure. That's awesome. I'm excited. Yeah,

Dan Bakkedahl 54:33

yeah, I just saw that they're bringing season one to CBS this summer. So that's pretty exciting. Because that's the thing. I love being a guest. I love showing up and doing a thing for a little bit and then getting out. And I think like those were the shows that I had the most fun on shows like that where it's a little dark, but it's funny.

Jeff Dwoskin 54:51

I don't know where Tyler is shared and comes up with all these ideas. I

Dan Bakkedahl 54:57

don't either Well, that one also has Terence Winter attack. etched. So there's this like Soprano's meets Boardwalk Empire kind of thing in there too.

Jeff Dwoskin 55:07

Amazing. I appreciate you hanging out with me. This

Dan Bakkedahl 55:09

is Oh, yeah, man. Of course. It was great. Thanks, Jeff. I

Jeff Dwoskin 55:11

appreciate it. Your eyes where can people keep up with Yeah,

Dan Bakkedahl 55:14

unless I'm nowhere I'm not I'm not on any of that bullshit. Get off social media. I thought that shit. I would

Jeff Dwoskin 55:21

share address so people can write you can type you a letter. You got it.

Dan Bakkedahl 55:25

You got it for 34 West 76th Street, New York, New York. 100 to three. Thank you. Hartman three C. Sorry to whoever's address. That is.

Jeff Dwoskin 55:37

Dan, thank you so much for hanging out with me. Thanks, Jeff. I

Dan Bakkedahl 55:39

appreciate it, man. Thanks.

Jeff Dwoskin 55:41

All right. How awesome was Dan Bakkedahl. He's been in so many things. He's always hilarious. I can't get over it. It was so fun talking to Dan, check out his podcast, I'll put a link in the show notes. Watch dinner with the parents on free TV. It's a hilarious new series. check out any of the stuff that Dan's done over time all died fall well, with the interview over killing me one thing I know another episode has come to an end. I can't believe it either. Huge. Thanks again to Dan Bakkedahl. And of course, a huge thank you to all of you for coming back week after week. It means the world to me, and I'll see you next time.

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