#302 Kathy Coleman on Life in and Beyond Land of the Lost

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All right, Erica, thank you so much for that amazing introduction. You get this show going each and every week, and this week was no exception. Welcome, everybody to Episode 302 of classic conversations. As always, I am your host, Jeff Dwoskin. Great to have you back for what's sure to be another joy ride through Saturday morning television with my guests Kathy Coleman. That's right. None other than Holly Marshall from Orlando. The last is here are plunging in 1000 Feet together tons of great stories, and that's coming up in just a few seconds. And in these few seconds. Do not miss the hilarity that was episode 301 with Steve mittlemen, and John Debellis. Two amazing comedians with amazing stories to boot. But if you want stories, we got stories. Kathleen Coleman, author of her memoir, run Holly run is here. We're talking Atlanta, the loss and a whole lot more. And that's coming up right now. All right, everyone excited to introduce my next guest, actor, singer author, she won her hearts as Holly Marshall in 1970s, land of the last author of run Holly run the funny and harrowing story that covers my guests life. Please welcome to the show pop culture icon Kathleen Coleman. Hi

Kathy Coleman 1:55

there. Hi there. Well, what an introduction. I'm like cousy talking about oh, it's really nice. Thank you, Jeff.

Jeff Dwoskin 2:03

Wow, you know, it's not every day I get to talk to one of my favorite people that I grew up watching on TV, you know,

Kathy Coleman 2:13

you know, we all all of us, I'll call us kids. But all the kids that grew up in the 70s, we have this this bond, because if you think about it, we all pretty much ate the same food. We watch the same TV, we listen to the same music. And when we come together as a unit, there is that recognition of each like we recognize each other like we come from some separate planet or something. Get out. I mean, oh, yeah, there's a childhood bond that we have.

Jeff Dwoskin 2:42

Absolutely. It was like this special moment in time, where there was so many cool things that happened. We out. I think we all benefited from non overexposure. Right? There were three channels, right? And now there's like 1000 channels and YouTube. And there's very little commonality between what two people could watch at the same inexperience at the same time. Absolutely.

Kathy Coleman 3:08

And we had to wait in, you know, the whole excitement of waiting till the till the following week to see an episode and they weren't on reruns. So if you missed it, you had to wait a whole season for them to start showing rerun. So yeah, that convenience is is been you know, there's even a can an app for you to send somebody to like a 711 to get something for you. So you have you have an app of convenient to send you to a convenience store. Got nada control.

Jeff Dwoskin 3:41

Yeah, no, it's it's crazy. There's you don't even have to leave the house anymore. Oh,

Kathy Coleman 3:47

I know. But that point that you made about the three channels. That is why today we have such a strong fan base. Because of that, that beer fact that, you know, you watch what was there and then you got a little selective of what you liked out of that. What was their category and our fans happened to you know, or with Lanza. Last they loved it. And today, we still have people that, you know, we're eight years old when they watched it come into our tables at the shows, you know, it's fabulous. It's

Jeff Dwoskin 4:17

funny, you mentioned like, you know, who you grew up with, because I was at a party recently. And I said, Oh, you know, I'm talking to Kathy Coleman landed loss, and they're like, what's landed the last? Yeah. And I'm like, are we not? We're not the same age. And it turned out he was like, maybe maybe five or 10 years older than me. And then I turned my other buddy, who I knew was my age. I'm like, Hey, Lana. The last is coming to the Comicon. And a couple weeks, we get to take a picture in the raft. And he almost fell. Oh, yeah.

Kathy Coleman 4:47

So yeah, I know. Because even if it's five years now it can be five years below age range, but because there is a sweet spot, but five years above. They were our At off to college by that they wouldn't have been watching Saturday morning television. Exactly,

Jeff Dwoskin 5:05

exactly. There was that kind of period of time. You know, it's, you ever kind of look back and you're like, that was just three years of your life. And it's so important then. And now. It's a it's it's amazing. Like that part of it. It's amazing in itself, right? When you think about it, it's

Kathy Coleman 5:23

a little waivers on the mind boggling aspect because it will be this. Well, we're already in this year. It's 50 years ago that I walked through that door for an audition, just like 100 Other auditions that I went on. And you never know, you just go through a door and you Hi, how are you like your name, blah, blah, blah, and then the callback come in and you go on another callback, and then all of a sudden you're on third callback. Wow, that's now it's starting to get interesting. And then they're wanting you to meet like some of the executives and some of the producers and directors and then on the fourth callback, I go in and there's Wessely and, and they want me to meet Spencer and see how our chemistry is. And then on the either the fourth or fifth one I walked in, and Phil Paley, who played Chaka, I had not only worked with him before and landed last on the cheeses commercial, but he was a friend of mine. And so when I walked in and saw him in there, I'm like, What are you doing, because sometimes casting agents will cast a few different things all in the same room like Room A is for Landon loft. Room C is for McDonald's, core soul, or whatever. So I didn't know what he was there for it. He says, I'm up for this part in a show called Landon the last I said, Me too. And he was, you know, talking, though, it was cool enough for that. So for three years, we got to hang out on the SAT and get into all kinds of mischief and have a good time together. Because we're just a year and a couple of months apart. So

Jeff Dwoskin 6:55

on the set, you and Phil being roughly the same age because Wesley was like, what, like 10 plus a little. So that was a little different. I know you're really close now. And two, I want to get to like that reunion and renewed friendship and stuff now. But back then, when I talked to Wesley and so somebody who is you were what, 12? At the time. Yeah. So. So he's in his early 20s. So his memories and probably awareness of what was going on as a little probably different than yours. So it was it? Did you like what do you remember specifically about it? Because you were younger? This was probably, you know,

Kathy Coleman 7:31

I just actually thought of this when you asked that question, because I have been asked this question a million times. And I always sort to have a go to of what I say. But for some reason you spark something in May Just now he was sort of the in the middle, like, Okay, keep in mind what Phil and I were the kids on the show. And then there were all these adults, whether they were the crew, or producers or the directors, they were all the teachers, the welfare workers, everybody was all adults. And then there was Phil and I make up wardrobe. But Wesley was sort of that go between it because he he still was he could fit into the adult crowd. But he would come into our lane every once in a while, you know, not every once awhile, but he could relate to us easier. Because he was closer in age to us. And he was a he couldn't have been sweeter. Our whole family was so tight on that set. Every bet. It's

Jeff Dwoskin 8:28

funny, because I watched a clip of you guys, you the three of you, you Wesleyan fell at ComiCon kind of a panel. And you and Wesley have this brother sister dynamic, but and when I was rewatching some of the episodes, it's the same dynamic.

Kathy Coleman 8:45

I know. Oh, me, it's gone through phases. Like, you know, when I got married and had kids, you know, there was like a breather there because I was busy with my life. He was busy with his life. But we keep we come together. And then we get apart and we come together and apart. But this last time within these last 10 years or so, maybe 12 years when we came together, those allotments of time that we go apart or whatever kept getting smaller and smaller. And now I live down the street from him so we can say and do and be anything around each other like a true brother and sister and he's I depend on him. He is like a confidant. I trust him with my life. And we get along famously, that's

Jeff Dwoskin 9:36

amazing. So 12 year old Kathleen, on the set of land of the loss. Were you aware of Wesleyan because he was on days of our lives. I

Kathy Coleman 9:45

did not know his career at all. Like I knew he was on days where I live because he and I wasn't really like I didn't really know Days of Our Lives at the time. Like I knew it was so but I didn't like I wasn't like a follow or the show, because he would half the day he would be on the Saturdays were alive, the other apps, he'd come in and work with us. And so I was aware of it. But I didn't know. He didn't know who I was when he met me. And I didn't know what who he was when I met him. But our chemistry just connected. And that's why we each are at least why I got hired. He was sort of hand selected by said, I interviewed off the streets, you know, and, or through my agency, but I mean, I was not like friends with the crops at all.

Jeff Dwoskin 10:33

Got it? What was the whole audition process? Like because it was a long process, wasn't it? Yeah, I

Kathy Coleman 10:38

went on about seven callback, because they just kept introducing me to people, you know, I mean, there's there's all those like NBC executives, you have to meet them and, and the director and the producers, and then you're mixed with, you know, one actor, and then the next one comes in, and then they want to see the family dynamic. And, and then oh, well, there wasn't these executives there when when the directors and producers saw the three of you together, so we need to have another meeting where they can see it. I just know that I went back seven times before they finally sent to me, you got the job. And my mom had made me a promise that because I'd done like, I'd been with a band for two years when I was 10 to 12. And I did like theater and I did a bunch of commercials. My mom had always said to me if you ever land this theories, because of the cost of owning a horse, you know, you have to go boredom and they're expensive. She said that she would buy me a pony. So the day that they told me and we went in with my agent and signed the contracts. That afternoon, my mom took me out and I got command she my pony. And we and then I talked about him nonstop. That's all I wanted to talk about commands you this commands you that and the writers finally wrote him into the script that came on TV. Yeah. Okay, so you guys. They had to I probably would have never shut up. So

Jeff Dwoskin 12:01

that's so funny. And he talked to me about sensor metal again, like just in terms of like, everyone I talked to as a TV dad, they're their TV dad forever.

Kathy Coleman 12:10

He was a TV dad to me, but he was also like a dad to me, cuz I didn't I never had one. So he took on a really, where do I want to use? It's just an important, you know, part of my life, I gravitated towards him and he adored me and I and I just loved him. And he treated me like a daughter. And I was so receptive of it. I just loved it. So yeah, I love Spencer. And to this day, you know, when I've seen him, you know, in recent years, he treats me like his daughter, and I will tell him I, you know, I feel just like your daughter, Spencer. And he'll say, What are you talking about us? Because you are, you are my daughter. And he looks at me with those big huge blue eyes, you know, and I saw him like, about five years ago, he was in such terrific shape. You can't believe that. I can tell him that fencer, you know, people when they get up, you know, in an age they start to like, you know, lose their shape and everything. He looked like a million bucks. That's amazing. Yeah, it looks terrific. He has like a young like figure, you know what I mean? He looks fabulous.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:17

So based on your relationship alone with him, it must have been tough for him to leave after season two, it must have been devastating for you when he left. Oh,

Kathy Coleman 13:26

I was heartbroken. And then they had me do all the auditions for the person to the Uncle Jack role to replace him. So I read with a whole bunch of different men that came in auditioning for the part. And I picked Ron Harper for that role. I told him he's my favorite analogy.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:45

It was never the same. He just couldn't replace Spencer.

Kathy Coleman 13:48

No, no. And to this day, Spencer apologizes and tells us he's so sorry that he abandoned us. But it wasn't that really out when, you know, he was trying to negotiate for all of us and and they weren't budging. And he said then, you know, then I walked and they said, well, then you walk and so he did. He was a man of his word. You know, and that's hard to come by in Hollywood. It was

Jeff Dwoskin 14:13

over kind of your rights, right? In terms of like the merchandise merchandise. Yeah. Oh, he was a little bit ahead of his time, then.

Kathy Coleman 14:21

I know. I know which in today's film industry, that is where everything is in the merchandising. So

Jeff Dwoskin 14:28

yeah, he was. He was on the right path there. He

Kathy Coleman 14:32

was in for pennies, pennies and an equal share between the four of us because who's ever baked landed on that lunchbox game board coloring book, Golden Book, you know, all the toys that followed. He wanted us all to get it cut.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:48

Sorry to interrupt, have to take a quick break. I do want to thank everyone for their support of the sponsors. When you support the sponsors. You're supporting us here at Classic conversations. And that's how we keep the lights on And now back to my amazing conversation with Kathleen Coleman. So then they had to redo the theme song. Leslie went back into studio. Here's my question. I know Wesley has a lovely voice. But like you said, you were in a band you saying also, how come? You didn't? How come it wasn't a duet? Or how come you guys both in saying, well,

Kathy Coleman 15:21

well, I actually sent in the tape and they pick Wesley else. They asked me for one, but I didn't sing like the theme song. And you know, all like, at the time with my vocals on it was I had just done because Wesley did the first one. And then when I think I got asked when he was rebooting or redoing it for the third season with the Uncle Jack thing. And the only thing like I said, at the end my vocals on it was the Macy's Day Parade, which I had done like maybe the year before, and I think somewhere over the rainbow, and that song, I can only imagine when they heard it, they messed it that and that just didn't kind of quite go over vocals don't quite go with what we're looking for. Because they wanted something more 20 with, you know, the banjo kind of like a little more hearty, I would say,

Jeff Dwoskin 16:13

Do you want to do it right now? You do right now we'll record it will go viral?

Kathy Coleman 16:19

No, I actually don't. I am screaming and singing I think I should know. I was

Jeff Dwoskin 16:25

kidding. I was just joking. I

Kathy Coleman 16:27

didn't Halloween martial as the earth beneath them trembled last fall father through the door of time, Uncle Jack when searching and found the kids at last looking for a way to escape escape escape from the land of the law. There you go. And I'm sorry, I like hit that one note, the beginning and I cracked and crack. But

Jeff Dwoskin 16:50

that was one of the most amazing moments in my life. Thank you very much, Kathleen. So I found because I had heard about this cheese a commercial and I love my favorite snack in the world. But I found the commercial it is on YouTube. So it's that was hardcore. 70s commercial, right? It was all 70. So it was

Kathy Coleman 17:10

my very first commercial that I ever did for a place called shake ease pizza. And I play Goldilocks in it. And that too is also if you type in after we're finished this interview of the type in cab they call them lads are not my last Cathy Coleman Chickies pizza commercial, it'll pop up. And that's like I'm five in that commercial. It's awesome. That is really cool. It's cool that they you can still find those things.

Jeff Dwoskin 17:40

Yeah, it's amazing what people pick up on the internet. You did. You did McDonald's commercials, Kool Aid commercials you did. You did a lot of commercials. You got your agent when you were six years old, five or six or six. So there was six years before Land of the loss where you

Kathy Coleman 17:57

were I did my very first thing I ever did was I was Bally Jun and gypsy at the Civic light opera. I did that. And then I went on to doing commercials and then I got gig with the band. And we did two national tours and I got to perform with some of the heavies of that time period. Like for back rad Bob Hope George Burns, Helen ready. I mean, I was lit like big name like celebrities and I got to travel and singing and dancing to

Jeff Dwoskin 18:32

the show with the Mike Curb congregation

Kathy Coleman 18:36

that would be the one.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:39

So what was it like? I mean, like what so this is pre landed a lot. So I You're hanging with some big names before who was of that list that you named? Do you met? Were there any of them specifically, like extremely memorable? Like Bob Hove or Helen reddy or? Well,

Kathy Coleman 18:55

well to one like Telly Savalas. I did a show with him. And I just remember because Kojak of course, was out at the time. And I just remember sitting on his lap, like we were on stage waiting for something and I sat on his lap and we were laughing and didn't talk and he's just one of those really cool kinda guys such as a kid, you know, and then you feel real comfortable with them. He was very warm. And I thought because his jacket, his coat jacket was a little open. And no kidding. There was about four tootsie pop things in there. If you actually really eat those ghosts, yeah, you want when I go? Yes, you do. So that that just I don't know. I know. That's a silly memory. But he was really nice. Michael Landon, Bob crane. Those people were all like they did like really nice things for me. Elizabeth Montgomery was just this stunning beauty that I saw and in her all her wonderment and that an NBC press party and just stared at her for about 10 minutes because she was surrounded she looked like The Like a Virgin video with Madonna with all the guys in tuxedos around her, you know? And she just was just this beautiful woman. I mean, just that kind of stuff. And then when I was on stage with Burt Bacharach and Helen Reddy and George Burns, we we did a show at the Shubert Theater. And she, I'm thinking I am woman, and it was just very funny to me that I was only like, seven and a half or 11. Maybe I'm belting at the top of my lungs. I am woman, and I'm holding her hand. And I had Burt Bacharach, on the other side of me, George Burns, and so on the other side

Jeff Dwoskin 20:36

of her. That's awesome now, really, yeah.

Kathy Coleman 20:38

So yeah, I mean, I don't I don't think I ever during that course of time ever met anybody. That wasn't nice. I was a kid. So they were all all pretty cool to me.

Jeff Dwoskin 20:49

Did this lease act scare you on land to the loss or any of those things?

Kathy Coleman 20:54

No, they were all like UCLA, USC basketball players, and they were young at that point. And it basically those sleeves that costumes are wetsuits, like surfer wetsuits, and they would have them like, pulled down like to their hips, and they just had like white V neck T shirts on because fully suited up. We can only film for something like 30 seconds or maybe, maybe 45 seconds at a time with them in a shot because they with the lights and fully suited, masked up and everything they had to like, really keep it very brief with them. So yeah, no, they were all really nice guys. And then come to find out how famous Bill lambier got, you know, because he was one of the Detroit Pistons and they used to brag about it like crazy. You know, once I got Wyndham how popular it was, I was like, you know, Phil lambier was one of our sleep stacks until I watched that Michael Jordan Peschel I didn't realize he was really a bad boy. Like he was like the bad boy basketball.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:05

Yeah, he's. I'm in Detroit right now. So the Detroit Pistons that's Bill amperes. Yeah, guy. Yeah. The Detroit bad boys. He was a bad boy. Oh, yeah. That was a whole thing that that whole Bad Boys kind of logo that they had at the time. It's like making a comeback now too.

Kathy Coleman 22:22

Funny. They should put a sleazebag kid on it. That would be amazing that these that GED is so iconic, it shows up everywhere. I've been in in the most unlikely places like I just was with these friends of mine that are the husband is in a heavy metal band. And he's friends with the lead singer of Metallica and Metallica has like the largest like toy collection. And our stuff is a good portion of his collection in his pot is Christmas or his new year wish to everybody. It was asleep stack with a little Santa hat on. That's incredible. And I think he does please stack in front of this leaf deck. There was that grim reaper like thing that you'd cut grass or whatever with that thing that like a sickle say call? Yeah, yeah. You know, it is a heavy metal band. It just pops up in places you wouldn't expect.

Jeff Dwoskin 23:17

Do you have a favorite Land of the last hop culture reference? Is there any like we're like, that was the coolest thing like that. You just Oh,

Kathy Coleman 23:26

a couple like when? What's our tune? Family Guy, Family Guy, when he's saying it on that audition? That was cool. I thought one time unexpectedly watching Jeopardy. It was a question. I thought that was really cool that we made it to Jeopardy. I to this day, being on a golden book to me is such an honor. Because I grew up with those books in my house I that, gosh, I there's been a ton of like, oh, I once was in an in a club, like a nightclub, bar, slash bar, whatever. And I was sitting at those tall, like stools and a little round table. And I was sitting there and there were two guys next to me. And they said, Oh God, here comes a couple of sleeves to act. And they were referencing it to these two girls that were coming in. And I thought, well, if they only knew who was sitting next to them, you know?

Jeff Dwoskin 24:24

Do you unwisely get recognized in your hometown?

Kathy Coleman 24:27

No, not really not for you know, know what we do if we play the land of the last game, and we say Can I ask you a question? You know, no ego attached or anything but did you ever watch last? They're like, Oh, God, yeah. And then we tell them we placate them for a little bit, but then we tell them and they're like, No way and they get all like crazy. First and first in disbelief. And then once we you know, say yeah, no. Why would we just randomly say that we were kind of a strange thing to Say cough to

Jeff Dwoskin 25:01

everybody. Is it accurate? Your mom is responsible for the Holly, white checkered shirt, bang braids, look, you know,

Kathy Coleman 25:11

Wesley gives her full credit, I would have to go along with him on that, because that's how my mom dressed to me for the interview. And then they just sort of adapted it. Yeah, let's get rid, give that to my mom. All right. And she did my hair every day they had a hairdresser my mother would not let them touch my hair. She said, I'll you can do all of her makeup. But let me do the hair. Because my mom didn't like and I don't have big ears or anything wrong with my ears or anything. When people usually do braids, they put them behind the ear. And my mom never liked that. Look, she kind of liked it half and half, like a little bit of your ear exposed, and then the the hair covering part of it. And so she said, nobody knew how to do it that way. So she would do it,

Jeff Dwoskin 25:56

then I think your mom fully deserves the iconic look.

Kathy Coleman 26:00

Yeah, um, deserves a lot of credit. If it weren't for her I would not be. We wouldn't be talking today. And now for many of the obvious reasons, but she really her and my, all my siblings, you know, we're all played a part in, in helping me with my career, some more than others, like my sister that she just recently passed, but she was the president of the Land of the Lost fan club. That

Jeff Dwoskin 26:26

is amazing that she was the president of your fan club and my condolences. Sorry for your loss.

Kathy Coleman 26:32

Thank you. Yeah, she was she was my cheerleader. My, you know, she was everything. But yeah, 15 years old. And this is back, keep in mind in the 70s where she was writing to every responding she and I would get like all my fan mail. And she and I would go through it and you know, answer all the questions. And some people would ask us to call them and we you know, we were like partners in crime. We did it together. And it was fun.

Jeff Dwoskin 26:58

Yeah. Because you came from you had a big family. Right? You were youngest of 10? Yeah.

Kathy Coleman 27:03

It's just three years older than me. But she was. She was my biggest cheerleader. That's for sure.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:09

I do want to talk about Erica Hagen. Oh, yeah.

Kathy Coleman 27:12

She was she was a magical part of my life. I was so impressionable at that age. And, you know, I guess I had sisters in my house, but they weren't like, super like a feminine kind that, that she was like. And so that was a piece of like, what I wanted in my life that I didn't have. So I just was like a magnet to her. I just loved it. I loved everything about her. I love the way she she did everything. And she was so beautiful. And she was so sweet to me. And she you know, I wound up hanging out with her throughout doing the show at her house. And she came out to see me at my house and she actually even went with me to the ranch and everything and meet lady she was and you know the story. I don't need to share it. But what she did for me when I was at her house, right, right, just been a real huge influence on me. As we talked about laying in the loss. The run Holly run is your memoir. And there's a lot a lot a lot of great stories. It's an amazing book. So everyone who wants to dive even more into Cathleen Coleman needs to get that 40 years after I asked her I told you influenced she was you know, nobody knows that you're privately like just looking at every single move they make. You know, nobody knows that unless you tell them you know, and I guess I didn't tell her but in my mind, I was like beaming it. It seemed like I was beaming that I said, oh gosh, yeah, I watched every move you made if you did it I want it to build into a wound up writing the intro to my for me and she said What an honor this and so that really made me happy. Shortly after that we lost her and I was just so grateful that I got to see her one last time and and then I got that wonderful story that she wrote in the intro in my book,

Jeff Dwoskin 29:12

Erica plate future you

Kathy Coleman 29:14

and elsewhere and like his bikes episode. Needless to say, it's a

Jeff Dwoskin 29:19

great episode written by DC on Tana was interesting because I watched I watched it I watched it with DCS commentary. And it's really interesting. Like, I talked a little bit about this with Lesley too, but like how deep Land of the last really was like the mythology of the show. And all the nuances. It was it was not a dumbed down science fiction show at all. If anything, it was well above our heads and I'm probably just understanding it now as I watch it, if I may.

Kathy Coleman 29:50

David Gerald, who was our head writer, and I'm sure Wesley probably already told you this but he said he didn't want to write a sci fi show for children and he wanted to write a sci fi show that aired on Saturday mornings that children could watch. But he never wanted to speak down to them. He wanted to just give it to him as it was and have them come up to it not go down to them but not to it. And they did they were like hungry for it. They they wanted to know more and more and more like little sponges.

Jeff Dwoskin 30:21

Yeah, it's amazing. Did you watch any of the craft shows before the end of the loss?

Kathy Coleman 30:26

Probably liddesdale. Stuff. Big Men, or I don't know if Sigmund was I think I watched Sigmund to remember at one point they had a nighttime show with puppets. And I don't know, I don't know really like exactly what years each of those I know pup and stuff was their first show. So I know that was way before us. But I don't know. Exactly. If we were before lids are taken into the sea monsters or not. But I definitely watched you know, those those shows will be just as a matter of fact, at a mini little reunion where both Johnny and Scott are there with us and and then of course, Sharon Baird throwing death, she plays saw like chalk as mom on land law that she has been in every single crop show as like one of their main characters. She was also the youngest member of the Mickey Mouse Club, not the youngest member, but one of the original Mickey Mouse Club members. Sharon Oh, wow. Right. She joined us and her show recently. So yeah.

Jeff Dwoskin 31:31

Alright, so you mentioned it's 50 years this year. But about what about 2025 years ago, the land of the loss came out on DVDs. Is that about right? Was it? Well, we were regardless of the exact size. Right? I mean, it's not bad. I mean, it's gonna be on the time. Yeah, what you're trying to get out was, was that the moment of resurgence for you and like the Comic Con started becoming a thing. And like, all of a sudden, like landed, the loss now is like this thing again, because DVDs and you know, it started bringing back all these shows, that was one of the cool side effects of DVD is when they started packaging these shows together, and just people's got obsessed with TV, old TV shows. Yeah,

Kathy Coleman 32:14

I definitely would say that was the kickoff starting point of that. And then and I started, I was asked to do like a couple of conventions that were around where I was living at the time as well, that being in Hollywood, and I went into a couple of them. And then I wound up doing some commentaries on the videos. And so I was seeing Leslie and Phil again, and I told them that I was doing these conventions. And then we all did maybe one together, and Wesley and I started doing a few more. And then Phil would join us periodically. And so I started doing them first, and then those guys sort of came along. And now we did like a lot. I think we had 13 or 14 shows last year, that was quite a few. And that was in even our 50s I can only imagine scheduling or calendar starting to, you know, fill up. So we're excited to get to go out on the road again, it's the best job in the whole wide world, if you could even call it a job.

Jeff Dwoskin 33:20

Yeah, I'm excited. You guys are coming to Michigan. So I'm really excited to meet you and wisely and fill and take a picture on that raft. It's it's going to be one of the highlights. You

Kathy Coleman 33:30

know what it is? You know, it's one thing to get a picture and take a picture with the celebrity in there, you know, those pictures where the person is pointing to everybody likes to point for some reason their fate had. That's great. And if that's what somebody wants, and by all means, you get that the raft whole experience is that basically what what we're asking you to do here, put this life preserver on, hold this or in your hand, that in this position, make sure that your hand when it goes in the air isn't covering anybody's face. So that's sort of like blocking, right? And then at the counter three, we're all gonna yell when we go over the raft. Well, you have just been in a theme. So let's take a look before anybody moves. Let's see what the dirt looks like. If you don't like it. We'll do it again. We're moving over 1000 foot waterfall. And so he preps him all just we have a good time with our fans. It looks good, good energy.

Jeff Dwoskin 34:30

I've seen the pictures today. It looks amazing. You know, there was just like a magic with the land of the last show. The one in the seven days. I say seven days because the reboots that they've tried to do just never really kind of captured I think the magic you know, and then that movie, oh my god. Really

Kathy Coleman 34:48

bad choice but the other TV show. It's really I'm telling you, when we got cast, they whoever picked all of us. He saw that chemistry.

Jeff Dwoskin 34:59

I mean, it's me Using 50 years later you know like I said earlier like I mentioned it to my friend and he just lit

Kathy Coleman 35:05

up. Isn't that nutty? But I see that a lot in my my you know circle but it is guy net ESA it and she pulled it because it brings back that feeling note we were talking about it early part of our conversation just there was a connection that we all had at that time. And anytime you can tap into that, that memory, it just it makes it feel good. Makes you feel really good. The 70s were unbelievable.

Jeff Dwoskin 35:33

Amazing, amazingly unbelievable. So many great memories for like what's such a compact amount of time the music

Kathy Coleman 35:40

the clothes I mean it was just movies was just fabulous.

Jeff Dwoskin 35:46

It was a lucky to have lived at that moment of time.

Kathy Coleman 35:50

I love being groovy and bitchin and far out boss and cool and loved all

Jeff Dwoskin 35:58

of that. Kathleen, thank you so much for hanging out with me. This was so fun and

Kathy Coleman 36:02

pleasure and I know I actor you're off. But you know like you said in the beginning to me you can edit when you watch. It magically won me out of things if you want. But I enjoyed this. You're an easy person to talk to. You're a lot of fun and I look forward to meeting you in Detroit.

Jeff Dwoskin 36:22

I look forward to that as well.

Kathy Coleman 36:24

Ebenezer right Detroit Rock City Detroit Rock City

Jeff Dwoskin 36:27

oh one last question your favorite dinosaur? Of course. Thank you.

Kathy Coleman 36:32

Yeah, you're more than welcome.

Jeff Dwoskin 36:34

All right. How amazing was Kathleen Coleman so many great stories I love landed the last talking to Wesley and now Kathleen ah such a joy such a joy. Alright, if you love this interview and I know you did you have to run out and buy run out I mean, go to Amazon and order it online. Kathleen Coleman's memoir, run Holly run, you will not believe all the things that happened to Kathleen after Land of the Lost if you love memoirs, if you love diving into people's lives, this book is for you. It's amazing. Ron Holly Ron. Well, the interview is over. I can't believe another episode is flown by huge thank you to Kathleen Coleman for sharing all their great stories with me. Huge thank you to all of you for coming back week after week. It means the world to me, and I'll see you next time.

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