#273 Crossing The Streams is Shrinking (Bonus Ep74) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

CTS Announcer 0:01

Looking for your next TV show or movie to binge? Well buckle up, grab the remote and settle into your couch for this special edition of crossing the streams. We're here to help you tune in and get the most out of those 50 monthly streaming channels you're currently paying for. So without any further ado, here's your host of crossing the streams. Jeff Dwoskin.

Jeff Dwoskin 0:30

Hey, oh, it is I'm Jeff Dwoskin, your host of classic conversations and your guide through this bonus episode of crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams? It's where we answer the universal question. What should I binge watch next? You just watched something. And now you got to watch something else. Well, guess what? You have come to the right place. We got your back. We have over 125 hours of binge watching suggestions on our YouTube channel. And you're in luck. Because right now right here we're gonna beam three segments from three of those live shows right into your ears right here. You don't gotta go anywhere I know. Amazing. From Live episode 41 Worth from Live episode 111. shrinking. And from Live episode 98 artsy mad woman crossing the streams as myself, my co hosts and random guests coming together talking about shows that we've watched movies. We love that we think you need to binge and watch right away. So right now let's kick things off. All the way back live episode 41 Worth with Ron Libet. Take it away, Ron. I'm curious what worse is all about? Yeah, so

Ron Lippitt 1:43

so this is purely a Netflix algorithm. Thank you Netflix for knowing what I like that. They know the gods of Netflix. No, I absolutely adore Michael Keaton, for all the reasons we just talked about. And by the way, just a side note, Michael Keaton movies. Mr. Mom, Batman spotlight. Jackie Brown. We talked about this. I think my very favorite Michael Keaton movie is specifically it's a great movie. Oh, yeah. It's it's a frickin ride with Melody Griffith and yeah, it's it's the greatest thing. And so anyway, I

Jeff Dwoskin 2:16

just haven't ever seen the founder. The founders

Ron Lippitt 2:19

fantastic.

Mick Manhattan 2:21

I watched Pacific Heights with Matthew Modine at the Alamo Drafthouse here, he was sitting on the stairs next to me, and I was like, so I gotta ask you, which Batman was better to work with? us like, what do you talk to Batman do you work for to Batman? And he had like stories going on for days. He just kept talking about a movie. I'm like, I don't watch Pacific Heights. Matthew Modine

Fredd Carroll 2:43

sounds like Jeff. Sounds like Jeff's name dropping is going to mix now.

Mick Manhattan 2:48

Look at look at what Trump's doing here with these shows. I need to start name dropping this works.

Ron Lippitt 2:54

It's pretty serious. So listen, you know, Michael Keaton, I could go on forever. But then they throw frickin Stanley Tucci, who Stanley Tucci might be my very favorite actor. Hmm. Michael Keaton, I guess. So it for me, it's like that African dinero Al Pacino scene from heat, you know, having the two of these guys together in the same movie. And they do it so smartly. Because there's only a couple key scenes where the two these two main characters, these absolute just kings of drama, actually interact with each other. And when they do, it's so incredibly powerful. And just so you guys know what this movie is about this is it is the aftermath of 911, where the country the federal government is very concerned about, frankly, the potential of of an economic disaster from the lawsuits that would come out of the the claims from from 911. And so the they set up the federal disaster Fund, which was going to create compensation for, for all the victims of 911. But they came into a big, ethical moral issue of how much is each person worth? And where the title came from right now, how much did you give what's a human life worth? And how do you how do you rate that? How do you measure it? How do you value it? And this is where Michael Keaton's character, which is a real life character, lawyer, came in, this is what he does, he settles class action lawsuits, by establishing value and worth to each person's life, historically, on basis of how much they made. It's very difficult to create $1 value for for life, especially when you're talking about 1000s of victims. And this is what the government asked of Michael Keaton's character who is an asshole and a jerk and all the things that you would expect a hardcore lawyer, he's good at this kind of, you know, proficiency of creating a measurement of someone's life value, and so they gave it to them because they knew he'd be very good at it. Income Stanley Tucci is character standard teaches wife's standard teaches characters why wife was killed in the in the attacks and sets up a a website called Fix the fund, which becomes a you know it basically an enemy to Michael Keaton's efforts and there they are. The two main characters are basically at odds each other through the storyline and I won't read out how it ends. You guys know how history is its has gone down with how they did settle all the claims they did end up settling. But how they arrived at measurements was a very fascinating exercise. Stanley Tucci. The thing I love about both Michael Keaton and Stanley Tucci, particularly in this particular movie is they didn't overpower the content of the movie, through their acting prowess. Like they didn't attempt to outshine the very powerful content itself, the writing of this movie, just purely because they could rather they stayed in their lanes, they were very careful about the way they they interacted with with each other. And with the other cast members. They just did such an impeccably wonderful job on what is a very dark subject and a very hard to listen to subjects. And you come away still not sure that the government did, right? By all the people, I think they did the best they could because after all, we're all humans, right? We're trying to it's humans trying to figure out humans value, right? And that we did the best we could but I wouldn't say this pick me up or it's not a feel good movie. But it is a ride of emotions. But they spend a tremendous amount of time in the individuals sharing their stories about what people you know, how people were affected by 911 and what the what the worth for each of these families could or should be on the basis of this of this fun. So it is it is a very well done movie. And I it's an hour and 80 minutes it one, the Sundance Film Festival Best Movie from a year ago, and then was brought. It's just it was released just this past month. So it's the first time you can see it even though the movie has been produced for more than a year. And I highly recommend

Bob Phillips 6:56

you convinced

Jeff Dwoskin 7:00

it was worth watching timewise

Ron Lippitt 7:04

it depends on how you measure your time, Jerry for you very worth it.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:08

It's back to back 911 movies.

Ron Lippitt 7:10

It is funny, funny, Jeff, I didn't mean it to be that way. It's where the algorithm came out. And I wasn't going to turn down Keaton and Tucci so that's the way it happened.

Mick Manhattan 7:18

Yeah, Ron, I got real quick. I got some for you. If you like Keaton, as much as you do watch a movie called the company

Ron Lippitt 7:24

he plays. Wait a second. What is that about me? I've seen

Mick Manhattan 7:27

CIA and it's like the whole it's the unfolding of it. It was a miniseries. Chris O'Donnell was like the star but Michael Keaton played like the head of the CIA for a while and it's probably one of his best performances.

Ron Lippitt 7:39

Alright, so I've heard of this, and I know what you're talking about. Mick? Thank you for that. He did another HBO series HBO movie called hello from Baghdad. I think it was called. Does anybody see that? About About the

Bob Phillips 7:52

I've heard of it. I've never seen it. I've never heard it. It was

Ron Lippitt 7:55

about the founding of CNN and and about how CNN scoops everybody all the networks by having a microphone and and being able to go live during the bombing of Baghdad. So it was it's a very interesting

Fredd Carroll 8:09

Can you just get Kenny just get on with Beetlejuice to

Ron Lippitt 8:13

eyebright ruled I forget what he's

Jeff Dwoskin 8:17

calling him back as Batman we didn't even mention

Bob Phillips 8:20

Can I can I I'm with this is this may be the most unpopular opinion ever expressed on crossing the streams. Michael Keaton is my least favorite Batman. He doesn't make any sense at all. He's five foot seven. He's it just doesn't make you know, I never got him as that man. I didn't like the Tim Burton things. Christian Bale kicks the shit out of that. I just I don't get it. I don't get the fascination with him. Somebody explained that to me.

Mick Manhattan 8:50

He's amazing. They're done

Jeff Dwoskin 8:59

all right. That was worth Thank you Ron lip it. And please do not write any hate letters to Bob about his dislike of Michael Keaton as Batman. We will take care of that behind the scenes for you. Hope you enjoyed worth and that mini Michael Keaton love fest. because up next from Live episode 111. Fred is going to take us through shrinking and a little therapy session of his own. Take it away Fred. Yeah, we're gonna talk about

Fredd Carroll 9:32

okay, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's bang it out. So shrinking. Shrinking is with Jason Seagal. You know Jason Segel, everybody. Younger brother, Jason Seagal. This is available on Apple TV. And it's created by him and Roy can also known as Brett Goldstein from Ted lasso. And it also stars Harrison Ford and Ted McGinley among a spattering of newcomers and people that you've seen before, but now ever knew their names. So I'll read the byline for you just so you got an idea of what we're talking about here. So a grieving therapist starts to break the rules by telling his clients exactly what he thinks. Jimmy played by Seagull has lost his wife and wants to try a new approach to his loss but is unclear of how to help others. So on top of it all, that's it. I don't even agree with that byline after watching it. It's so much bigger than that. But you know, it deals with a parenting teenagers parenting a teenager who's also grieving for the loss of her mother has his mentor played by Harrison Ford, who is going through his own shit that he's dealing with PG 13, his own shoot, and it makes it amazing, dramatic comedy. I think Jason Seagal clearly has a fetish for Muppets or vampires. Because he talks about them in all his movies, all it shows. But the dialogue, the cinematography, there are a lot of fun to watch. It also has all the things that I often do in my life, drama, comedy, therapy, and sex. Okay, not sex, not sex.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:13

Not in that order. Not in that order.

Speaker 5 11:15

I don't actually have sex. So here's a sidebar. I'm gonna go off on a rant air for a little bit. So I'm single, I'm financially stable. I'm a solid six considering my age of almost 54 solid six. Right, Jennifer? Well, yeah, I mean, I

Fredd Carroll 11:31

Eastex I'm a solid six. I'm a I'm a Connecticut six.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:36

Yeah, we I

Fredd Carroll 11:37

mean, you maybe you're a Connecticut five. Okay, thanks. Yeah, no, it what is the guy got to do to get a date in this world. What do we got to do?

Jeff Dwoskin 11:48

It to you asking me it's not it's not come on crossing the streams. Well,

Tim Beisiegel 11:54

I have pitching your your plate to Jennifer. Maybe isn't the

Fredd Carroll 11:58

place to start? Let's Let's go. Jennifer was supposed to be my wing girl. She was my co host for two years on my show. That head of Fred with the best buy with the best line ever. Right? They both have Double D's but his are in His name. That was a great one. But Jennifer bailed on me. She bailed out. So this is our therapy session now in your Dr. Dwoskin. Good. Take the stage. Dr. Dwoskin.

Larry Roberts 12:23

I ask is there is this real animosity here? It seems like there might be a hint there's some sarcasm, but I feel like I'm Chuck Woolery on a bad episode of the dating show back in the 80s. What was that? Love? connection? Connection? Yes. I feel like we will be right back into into here.

Fredd Carroll 12:39

But real are where are we out here? This is incredibly off. Yeah, no, it's not reordered. Jennifer and I talked to almost every day still. And she's like, she lives 45 minutes away from me. She's never visited. She likes to throw it in my face that I also have never visited. So where is this? True? We've met once. Yeah, just once. One time. Wow. And we live 45 minutes away from each other. But that's how exciting Connecticut is.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:10

I don't know where Larry lives. I've met him twice. So Jerry. Jerry says you're a Cincinnati eight.

Fredd Carroll 13:18

Oh, thank you, Jerry. Jerry, Cincinnati, he might even be a nine. So you know, back to the show. i i You know, let's let's get let's get off, Jennifer. That's what she said. I say go watch it. I say go watch it. If you dislike it. Contact me. I'll give you Jennifer's number.

Unknown Speaker 13:39

Personally, I mean, hey, we all know how much I hate. You know, if it's a bad movie, then I'll watch it.

Fredd Carroll 13:45

Yeah, Jennifer has horrible taste in movies. Horrible. Horrible. Like she thinks cinematic. Dreams are like 2012 The movie 2012 She thinks that's like, Golden Globe worthy and she loves crap. She really loves a lot. It's 100% true if you can destroy the Earth, I love it. So does everybody else like shrinking that has watched it?

Jeff Dwoskin 14:09

shrinking? I think is one of the best new shows is right up there with Ted last Oh, it's it's I mean, there's no coincidence there. I think that Brett Goldstein made both. But yeah, shrinking is 10 episodes. It's you know, as I watched it, so my favorite, like Jessica Williams is one of my favorite characters on the show. And I guess a Ted McGinley who you mentioned who everyone would recognize, I think this is like one of his best roles and, and if you watch it to the end, Israel just keeps getting better. His character keeps getting better and better and better. And the person from scrubs Krista Krista Miller, yes, great.

Fredd Carroll 14:49

And she's married to the creator of Scrubs.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:51

And she Yeah, okay, so yeah, I mean, it was just it is really great. And like you said it's very layered in that byline was clearly A year right it was written when by someone who only saw the first two

Fredd Carroll 15:03

episodes. Yeah, it was weak. It's a weak byline. It's very weak is

Tim Beisiegel 15:07

Harrison Ford's character sarcastic? I haven't seen the show yet. So is does he play a sarcastic character because my favorite Harrison Ford rolls are the rolls where he has a little sarcasm to them a little.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:18

He's got he's gonna bite.

Fredd Carroll 15:20

Yeah, they took they took them to the edge as far as you can go in TV, at least but he plays a good role in a I like his. He has great chemistry with the daughter. And it's a neat little concept they came up with with shrinks dealing with their own issues.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:38

We live in a great time where Harrison Ford is now doing TV, this in 1923 and an Indiana Jones coming up which from the preview I think looks amazing. But

Fredd Carroll 15:50

horrible, ya know, horrible name for the film.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:53

The dial of destiny. Yeah, that

Fredd Carroll 15:55

just that doesn't.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:57

I think once you know what the dial is of, yeah, earns a destiny, or may have it

Tim Beisiegel 16:03

worse the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull so I mean, you know,

Jeff Dwoskin 16:07

it's it's a good name just a horrible movie. Well, yeah.

Fredd Carroll 16:10

See, I like maybe because of so they filmed it here in New Haven. That scene at the beginning is filmed in New Haven. And we went down there, they turned all of New Haven in the 1950s. And it was amazing to see all those cars lined up and see the chasing, and everything's gone. Yeah, it was fun. But I think I think I like it because my mother was with me. And as you could read, my mother says I'm special.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:37

You are special. All right. Thank you, Fred. Carol, check out Fred's latest podcast a dude in the hen house. Wherever you listen to your podcasts. Also check out shrinking and our final live segment of this bonus episode comes from Live episode 98 Jess Paul, our roving a YouTube or a porter brings us YouTube channels to dive into she brings us artsy mad woman take it away Jess ball. Let's move on right now. Okay, artsy, mad woman just paused. We are jumping into

Jess Paul 17:17

the the YouTube correspondence responsibility and giving you a rundown of this channel RT MW even now it would be weird because like, this isn't a gigantic channel. Maybe I want to say probably around over 100,000 I should have checked that out. But what was so cool about finding this channel. And that's what you do. Just like on Netflix. You know, when you're browsing, you don't know where to go next, you will stumble upon something. And YouTube just has an algorithm that pushes you in all kinds of different directions. There are people that have millions I probably say this every time billions of subscribers and you've never heard their name before. They just exist in these little pockets of the world. Where does anyone know who Mark Roper is? Rober? Rober Maher from YouTube? Yeah. I mean, this guy, he will rack up like 14 million views on every single episode. He's a scientist. He's a he's an ex NASA and he's the one that pranks everybody every year or with the stolen stolen boxes and glitter bombs, the thieves cameras, that guy. I mean, this is what I'm saying. Like YouTube is such a vast sea. It's like such uncharted territory, like like the ocean like the actual ocean. So anyways, the thing about RC madwoman that just fascinates me is that I like organically stumbled upon this channel and watch this channel go from like, maybe like a few 1000 all the way up to where she's at now. And not every channel does that you will run into channels. You will like maybe a channel will have a popular video, but they'll never really make it to the degree where they quit their job like these. You know, these YouTubers can quit their job and just be a full time YouTuber. Which is oh my gosh, the life. I want that life one day. And but yeah, so you literally got this this woman who starts out she's got color hair just like me. And this is what YouTube does. You find people like in your community. It's like a different world. And and so she has colored hair but she's also she's kind of quirky, she's called artsy mad woman. So, you know, she's much you must have some quirks to her, but she's also very apologetic and timid. And when I got to do is watch this at some of her earliest videos, I watched her some of her earliest videos being uploaded and literally watched an evolution of a person kind of finding themselves and developing a voice on a platform was really fun. So she's only been on the platform for like three years. I came in at year one. And so now I've literally gotten to watch this evolution. So artsy madwoman It's like she had to like even grow into her own name. What she does, I haven't even told you what she

Jeff Dwoskin 19:54

was worried you're wrapping up and I'm like, Dude, I don't think I

Unknown Speaker 19:59

build up The buildup is

Jess Paul 20:00

fantastic watching people make art, you know, even art that I never intend to do there, there might be tutorials, but I'm just really watching for funsies and what she'll do what she started out with resin art, which can be a very fascinating and specific art form of making colors and shapes and objects and patterns within resin, you know, you get to use these things for containers and, and all kinds of art art. She's an artist. And so she would do some kind of experiment had some kind of thematic about it every week. Again, doing this in her like attic apartment could clearly see like this is coming from this is homemade. And she eventually continued to graduate up to other art forms, she like branched out, and now she just makes rugs all the time. She just makes rugs. But what was so cool to watch recently is that like, she's really like I kind of said like she's grown into her personality. And she's so funny and and, and just basically trying things out as they go, what she would do when she would de mold her resin art at the end of every episode. And it would be the biggest suspense to know what she was going to think of the final product. And we were literally learning as she was what this this piece that you know we've making all week actually looks like it's literally Yeah, watching an entire personality grow into its own. And I wanted to bring up this kind of channel because this is the beauty of YouTube. You know, I think it's really odd. I've also think it's odd that I'm an actor who barely watches movies or TV. It doesn't make any sense, right? But I'm so interested to see what a real person is life or education or persona can evolve over time. It's almost like a masterclass in itself of creating a character isn't it, even though you're not creating a character, you're just growing and developing? Like, it's my kind of case study. And if anybody ever makes fun of me for not watching movies, I'm going to say, You know what? I've got my own school. So

Jeff Dwoskin 21:59

no, it makes sense. I mean, God, do you watch a lot of comedy? No,

Bob Phillips 22:03

I was just gonna I was just gonna say comedians don't watch a lot of comedy. It's like, you know, up actor

Jess Paul 22:09

that sounds that makes sense to me. Because I now tell me why with with me in watching a lot of movies. I'm so particular about how I want a movie to be made. And what I would want to perform is to be that it's hard to watch a lot of other people considering like this is you know, I have my own tastes and I want to be in one of my goals is to be realistic, as realistic as possible. But but sometimes I feel like it's all a bunch of play acting. So you probably have your own taste of what comedy should be. Do you? What do you what kind of feelings arise when you watch someone else? Comedy? Do you feel anxiety? Do you feel like, do you feel critical of the comedians, because it's your professional.

Bob Phillips 22:48

There's, there's nobody more critical than a bunch of comedians in a room watching us. But it's really not being critical. I don't want to walk out with it. We talked about it on another episode, I don't want to watch anything that would give me an idea or plant a seed in my head. And then later on, I get the subliminal little trigger, and I do a bit based on what I heard. And now it's now I'm doing somebody else's bit. So I don't want I don't want to watch it.

Jeff Dwoskin 23:18

Right, which is the same reason like when someone comes up to you after the show and goes, I got a joke for ya. You can have it.

Bob Phillips 23:29

It's usually something awful and racist

Jeff Dwoskin 23:31

that I don't view and Google is only there's only one time, Bob, that ever happened to me where actually they gave me an idea. And I wrote an actual tag to a joke. Oh, yeah. So anyhow, it can happen once in 20 years. But

Bob Phillips 23:49

the second answer to that question is there are certain comedians that I watch the late George Carlin, Bill Barr, I just watch and go, I don't know why I'm doing this. Why would I do this? They've done it. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

Jeff Dwoskin 24:02

yeah, that's how I feel when I UGC. Then I say Tony's videos. Why do I do this? Why don't you so good.

Tony Berardo 24:12

But you know, that's what's great about being a creative or a YouTuber, or an actor or comedian is, you're going to find, you know, to Justin's point, you're going to find a community, whether that's 100 people or 10,000 people that are going to appreciate your content and consume your content constantly. And that's why it's so important that everyone's creative in their craft, and does what they're passionate about what they're good at, because there is going to be sampled someone that you know, actually watches or listens to it. I swear

Jeff Dwoskin 24:35

to God, I thought you're gonna say the beautiful thing about YouTube is you don't have to be as good looking as me. There's, there's room for everybody at every level, if you did in

Unknown Speaker 24:45

Iraq, I hope. I hope that's true. And if you want to be successful,

Bob Phillips 24:53

okay, yeah, you ruined it. You did that cheesecake thing and you do the whole

Jeff Dwoskin 24:58

All right. cuz he knows he knows what's going on. All right, thank you, Jess. Thank you just a deep dive into the world of YouTube and we look forward to coming back and sharing more. All right, Jess Paul YouTube corresponded with artsy mad woman, and we talked about shrinking and worth. Lots of great stuff for you to dive into. We went back. Oh, gee, that worst conversation took place before Keaton game back as Batman in the flash. That was an old episode, but worth worth checking out. See what I did there. Okay. All right. Well, you got plenty of homework in front of you. Plenty to check out, go hop on the couch, find your cozy spot, grab your own remote, cross your own streams, and I'll see you next time.

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