#245 Crossing The Streams Breaks the Fourth Wall (Bonus Ep65) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

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Jeff Dwoskin 0:30

Hey, oh designed you have to ask and your host of classic conversations and your guide through this bonus episode of crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams? It's where we answer the universal question. What should I binge watch next? I just finished something and now I got to watch something else. Well, you have come to the right place on our YouTube channel. We have over 115 hours of streaming suggestions just waiting there for ya. In this bonus episode we're bringing you two amazing segments from Live episode 93 and live episode 111 She Hulk and aliens G hawks a special extended review we got the whole crew Tony Berardo Zack Wiseman, Howard Rosner and myself all diving into She Hulk and then we have aliens but up first. Leading the charge is Howard Rosner with She Hulk take it away Rhys? She Hawk

Howard Rosner 1:34

Look, we've talked ad nauseam about Marvel stuff and we all agree that everything with the exception of the second Spider Man movie far from home after most everything after Avengers endgame was in the movies was was mediocre at best and TV rolled out with the first TV show being one division and I think that got everybody hyped. And then similar to the movies, they just started pumping them out right pumping out these TV shows I have given all of them at least the first episode to see if I have any interest in watching them. I love one division Great show. Thought Falcon in the winter soldier was decent, thought it was good. You know had a good little bit heavy handed with the point they were trying to make or points they're trying to make. I like talk I thought haka was decent, couldn't watch moon night. Didn't just had no taste for it after the beginning of it. And I know I'm forgetting a couple other TV shows there. So I set my sights on She Hulk and thought I Well, we'll see. I don't know what this is going to be. I knew the plan was that it was going to be comedy. I knew the plan was that they were going to give her the fourth wall break. Similar to Deadpool. I watched the first episode, and I was hooked after the first episode. No, not every episode is great. But okay, the gist of this series for those of you who don't know, they had to tweak it a little bit from the comic book. So how she gets her powers in this series, the character Jennifer Walters, who's an attorney who's with her cousin, Bruce Banner, and the Hulk for those of you who don't know, and they're in a car accident, he gets cut, or she gets cut, they both get cut and some of his blood gets into her bloodstream. She becomes a Hulk the ability to transform although the ability to control it much better than Bruce did, at the beginning. And that kicks off the show becomes is it really is a legal comedy. That's the gist of the show. She's an attorney, and they made it illegal comedy bought her specialty of law after she becomes shield popular for it is she's hired to, to represent represent clients in a brand new superhero division of the law firm law firm, it is fourth wall breaking, it is very much a comedy it is very much sarcastic as hell. But even within that it's so good. And it's it's just an enjoyable show. If you watch the first episode, and tried to do anything other than enjoy the show for what it is, as opposed to trying to connect it to bigger things in the MCU you were missing the point. And the finale of the show, which was amazing. The best finale, by far of any of the Marvel TV shows absolutely nailed the point to the world of online Marvel trolls and bloggers to say, just watch the damn show. Just enjoy it for what it is and just be happy that it's enjoyable and entertaining. That's why we're creating them. And I just I loved it. There's definitely some callbacks. There are some appearances by characters from the MCU the abomination from the literally the first MCU movie, The Incredible Hulk makes an appearance Wong who I think has become far and away A in the top five most entertaining consistently characters in the MCU. And some other you know, if you haven't seen it online, it is the return of Daredevil, which I thought they did in a great way, a fun way. And you know, it doesn't have to mean a bigger role. We know he's gonna have his own show again. So maybe it connects to that maybe he's connected to the MCU as a larger piece down the road. They also I thought cast it really, really well. Tatiana Maslany they cast to play Jennifer Walters, slash She Hulk, I thought was superb in the role. Really, really great timing, just quick witted with wines, but also the ability to show some emotion at the times there was emotion in the show. There's shout outs to some really small you have to collect comics, old school characters, just total asides. Again, nothing more than just fun references they made you know the porcupine, who was a character if you read comics, but wasn't an important one. Leapfrog, who was another crappy character that showed up sometimes in comic books, I just love the show. I've really just enjoyed watching it every week, because it wasn't heavy handed with MCU just driving the plot forward. And you knew that going in. And that you know, if it was supposed to be a show that drove the plot forward, and it didn't, I would have been mad. But I knew going in it wasn't it was just supposed to be fun. And it absolutely delivered multiple times over in that regard. So it is a Disney plus show. If you have Disney plus, I suggest watching it you can watch the whole series. It's nine episodes. You can watch the whole series in a couple of hours. Easy and be happy you did. Tony? Zack, I know you guys watched it as?

Tony Berardo 6:49

Yeah, I mean, I definitely I agree with a lot of that. I just and you do have to be a nerd. You have to appreciate those nods. Because I think those nods and those characters and you know, even little things. I think it's Episode Episode Two, where she gets introduced to abominations boiler. And she asked to be the lawyer. And then she asked Bruce for some advice. And Bruce is like, Adam, you remember I mean, you know, that was I was a different person back then literally. Like even like things like that was like, fantastic. Great.

Howard Rosner 7:21

But that's great, though.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:22

And Randy, they actually tried to get Ed Norton to do a cameo. That would

Tony Berardo 7:26

have been incredible. No way he would have done that. Now.

Zack Wiseman 7:29

Yeah, the only people that really complain about the show are people that actually do not know She Hulk. I'll say this is one of the MCU properties that is so like related to the comic, especially like the later runs of she helped. But like her breaking out of her own show. In Episode One, she was very clear. This is my show. This is a legal comedy show. Like if you're looking for MCU stuff, I'm sorry, you you're not paying attention. And for her to just go through the trials and tribulations of wanting to have a good job having superpowers that really mess her life up and just wanting to meet a nice guy. Those are pretty much like the elements of the show. So very low stakes, but so faithful to the comics, and so enjoyable, because I did not expect what and people like oh, she's gonna do a Deadpool that she Hawk was breaking forth walls before Deadpool was a character. So she's not, she's not ripping off a Deadpool at all that really started this genre. Actually, she was the first she was the first main character to consistently break the fourth wall to make sure that the audience understood what was going on because she didn't understand it. Faithful, exciting. And not everyone was great, but I thought that it was even closer to daredevils kind of book preference. Like he's a quirky funny fella in the comics. And the Netflix is like he's just brooding and angry all the time. That's not how he is. So if you don't know the character, I can understand you complaining about it. But that's the character that's it, ya

Tony Berardo 8:53

know, for sure. And that's the thing is you got to know and appreciate it. But I mean, even knowing that, I would say it's a good show, but there was some times where I would find myself like looking at my phone. I wasn't fully interested in a couple scenes here and there. So you know, as much as I enjoyed it, there are a few things where the jokes were a little too cheesy forming. It didn't really it could have been so much funnier, like I would have said something, I think funnier. And I would have wrote it a lot funnier. But I know that was a that was a part of it to where it needed to be.

Zack Wiseman 9:23

I'm sure you could write a female lawyer jokes a lot funnier than the female lawyers that were writing. Okay, now you're saying it's the point of the show. She shouldn't have done and so somebody else should have wrote the jokes. They got a guy to write these jokes that are funny.

Tony Berardo 9:38

It wasn't necessarily what she was saying she was great in it. But just the the dialogue itself as a whole, like I could have gone a lot with especially as short as they are. I mean, with the credits being like eight minutes long. It's a 19 minute show. You know what I mean? Like they're in that 90 minutes, I would have preferred to see a few other things. So I hope there's either a season to where we can expand a little But, I mean, it's a great job it is. But nothing could have been funnier

Zack Wiseman 10:03

out of all of them. So you Disney plus shows. It's the one that is rewatchable. Honestly, every other one is just launching you to the next project. This one is a self contained, like yeah, you meet a couple cameos at the end of like, oh, this might be something but in itself, it is a contained story. Very low stakes, very similar to the originals are not the original, but like the first Tom Holland spider movie. It's like this so small. This is a character dealing with shit. That's cool.

Howard Rosner 10:28

Yeah, there's another. There's a great example the first two spider men of this era. Both Toby and Andrew Garfield. Well, good. Both of them good. Neither one of them captured the way Spider Man was from the comic book. Tom Holland absolutely captured. Like when you see Tom island in Civil War, you're like, that's it? That's it like the one of my favorite lines to this day from any of the MCU movies is when he is trying to capture I can't I can't remember its Falcon. Its Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Yeah, yeah, he's struggling Falcons. Like flying and he's hit the line where he goes, you have the right to remain silent. That is one that is a total spider man come up with type a line. You're like that. Got it? Finally somebody got it? That's absolutely.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:18

I mean, Let me chime in just because this is one of those rare moments where everyone saw the show. Yes, no. Let me also say real quick that my episode on my podcast classic conversations at midnight is talking with author Pat Jenkins, who wrote called Don't make me angry. It's a whole companion. So the whole episode is a deep dive into the original Incredible Hulk TV show. Right? It's a great episode and at the end, we talked about the what was to be She Hulk back then. Like there were full plans to bring She Hulk into the mix as a offshoot of the movies. You know, the Incredible Hulk and all that kind of stuff but it all got at some point shelved but I mean, they had people attached to it everything Melissa Gilbert actually at one point was a test anyway. We need to take a quick break and we're back. So I saw she hog and Howard and I've talked about it a lot and he thinks I hate it. I don't hate it. Like I don't like their shows that I watch and I hate myself for watching it. I don't hate myself for watching. She hauled I had no expectations. I don't think it's a fair thing to say. You didn't know the character so you couldn't accept that nobody knew Iron Man. Right? I

Zack Wiseman 12:33

mean, nobody knew Iron Man. Iron Man was a didn't go to the movies because Robert Downey Jr. Project.

Jeff Dwoskin 12:40

Zack come on Iron Man was like a beast, Ironman, Ironman, new Ironman in the sense that it was in those comics or cartoons that you watch. But nobody knew Ironman, like they knew Superman, right? It wasn't like anyone was asking for Ironman, when they made an Ironman movie, they happen to have the rights to these characters that happened to make the Avengers that they didn't think anyone was going to be interested in. And then they spooled it into into gold, right? But no one was interested in Iron Man, they created a movie and everyone fell in love with. And now people forget that before Robert Downey Jr. It wasn't as in your mind as much as like a super bass

Zack Wiseman 13:19

spent over four years trying to make a Tom Cruise Ironman in the early 2000s. Even before anybody in the MCU was involved in this like new line, I want him to have it. So there's

Tony Berardo 13:29

no one I know who no one know who blade was. That's probably a better example.

Howard Rosner 13:34

Well, Jeff, I would contract crashing.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:36

Well, my point is my point is show can be good. You hold on division was great without deeply knowing those two characters, right. And I can just tell my wife did not like She Hulk and she should have like she hauled it was not a Ragnarok II type thing. It really wasn't too geeky. It was just a fun show. That's what they went out to make. So there's no reason she shouldn't have so to me, like for her not to have like it. That's not one of my kind of pauses to say, Oh, they missed it. She loved one division. You know, I expected I had no expectations of She Hulk, but thought it would be better. I don't think it's his brilliant comedy that you both think. I think it was enjoyable. I watched every episode The day after day came out. You know, I kept up with it. i A lot of it felt like they were just inserting things like oh, did they just make a reference to Wolverine? Or did you know Oh, that and then the crazy thing about the fandom which I did think they really handled was people talking about, oh, Daredevil, Daredevil. They gave away Daredevil immediately it was like what of course there's gonna be Daredevil. It will he was in the preview. It's like people are talking

Howard Rosner 14:48

Yeah, but good in Martin MCU trailers especially they're no I'm

Jeff Dwoskin 14:52

just saying like at the end just bringing in was a scar scar. And it was just like just dropping that character in or you know, like him going into space at the beginning and I think I've decided that Mark Ruffalo, Hulk smart Hulk is, I think a little more creepy where she Hulk is high. You know, I mean, it's, it's, you know, it and to me it minimizes those characters Nachi Hulk like Mark rough. I don't like smart Hulk. Because Hulk is the monster. And it's like so and then and all of a sudden they're like, I didn't love how they were kept going. Well, you're a Hulk now. Well, that's not a thing. You were just there was one Hulk is not the Hulk, right? I mean, it's like, and it was a little easy. I guess it's her origin story. But if it's that easy, then it seems very dangerous that

Howard Rosner 15:43

she at least the series didn't bog down with picky details. Well,

Jeff Dwoskin 15:47

you know the in the original Ed Norton one they which is is a character they're bringing back was the leader where he also gets tripped out with blood and in his head kind of, you know, he they're bringing him back for Captain America for which also they just announced Harrison Ford is under both Ross which should be which is

Tony Berardo 16:07

a great move. Yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 16:08

very good. You know, I just I didn't think it was as well written as as you guys did the Melissa or Melinda derbo Is that whatever the Her name was? I didn't find her funny at all. Madison Madison. I just didn't find it. I know you did but it wasn't

Zack Wiseman 16:25

overused if they brought it back at a bit annoying but it was it was loved it I absolutely loved it. I don't know I just wonder when you go into why didn't handle your one division you're like wow, this is going to be an MCU mind blow like it's about Wanda putting herself through decades of things to cover trauma but they failed it's not that great of a show it was entertaining but they did not land the plane when you watch Falcon when

Jeff Dwoskin 16:50

they land the plane and dr. strange to that's where they crashed.

Zack Wiseman 16:54

Dr. Strange had no point like Dr. Strange to took away everything about one division completely, because they wrote one division to be strange in there. And then they had to take strange out of there. So that made dr. strange to not make any sense a whole lot. And you watch Falcon, the Winter Soldier and it was supposed to be one thing. And then they had to swerve because the pandemic and that show just went crazy. Like what is this show about? And you watch moon night you're like, Okay, this is kinda cool or whatever. But she Hawk from start to finish was exactly what it was. She said what the show was going to be. It was about her. It was a legal drama. The problem is they everyone and I'm not saying your wife, I don't know your wife, she probably loves a lot of cool.

Jeff Dwoskin 17:31

I mean, a nine geeky person who doesn't have one, but I'm saying like,

Zack Wiseman 17:35

you don't need to know the comic books to enjoy this character. It's the people that are complaining about this character do not understand the character, but to go into a show like this blind, like, I don't like it. Okay, that's fair. That's 100% Fair and understandable. But the MCU is it sends the plane so far into an altitude jump that you're like, Well, what can you do now? Like one division had to be aggressively big and then the multiverse is so big and then to bring it down to this is just the day of the life of a lawyer who accidentally got powers. I thought I mean, people can like really like I thought that the show was planned out perfectly. It landed a plane it set out to do what it did and I appreciate it and I'm at

Jeff Dwoskin 18:15

the show the show every point of the of the plot that they did which then they negated in the really break the fourth wall finale, you know them stealing her blood like there was all these things that were happening throughout which they just said it basically, you know, because that didn't happen.

Zack Wiseman 18:35

Who wants to watch another but that

Jeff Dwoskin 18:37

was heroes that was the series but they did it on purpose. They

Zack Wiseman 18:41

did it on purpose because that's what these fans want. I just another Iron Man and Iron Monger.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:48

Dynamite the first time I watched it either, so maybe I just need to watch again. I'm not telling I'm not trying to convince you and Howard that you're wrong. I'm happy that you loved it. I'm upset that I didn't I wanted to.

Zack Wiseman 19:01

But why didn't you like it? Was it the writing or was it because you expected

Jeff Dwoskin 19:05

it? I didn't like it. I didn't I didn't love it. And I didn't want to rewatch it that I mean, that was I didn't I didn't have an immense love for it. I did the characters great. She Hulk is great. I think

Zack Wiseman 19:19

Tatianna is such.

Jeff Dwoskin 19:21

Like she loved the whole the whole she held character. Jim Jameela Jamil I was a waste that time Tatiana character you never really understood what she was and and it just it seemed like she should have been the the nemesis of the whole time.

Tony Berardo 19:37

And I think we're where I kind of I'm with you there a little bit as like Tatiana critics, which by the way, she was hilarious and like the good place if you ever seen that. It's amazing, accurate. But in the entire show again. You don't necessarily have to appreciate the characters right. But I think the entire point of the show is it is very it's very busy. It's very similar to where and I know that was a whole joke. The thing, like if you watch Law and Order Special Victims Unit, every episode is different, right? And there's a bunch of storylines in between all that. So you take something like that, and you add in, you know, a comic relief type of bit into it. And every episode is different. And there's new things. But again, if I look at the premise of the entire show, what I would have loved to see is literally like a Brooklyn nine nine style show, where it was like that type of comedy. That's what I was expecting as I thought it was going to be that type of comedy where she was going to be the lawyer of all these super and of course, she did that with Wong and a few other characters, but there was just a lot of stuff that was sprinkled in there that is like, I'd rather see like more of a a joke spin on her being a lawyer. She was only a lawyer, like, four minutes per episode. Harvey Birdman, you know? Yeah, like, so that's, that's where I would like to see there was just so much opportunity for more comedy, I think, than what there was, but it was it was very fun and times very sarcastic. And that was great. The fourth wall I would have liked to see more of quite honestly, she did a lot of it, but I think more could have been done with that as well. It was just kind of like these little talking about me. Yeah. Maybe that was it. I mean, come on, man. This who knows if she's gonna get another serious like, I would have loved to see like, a lot more thought

Jeff Dwoskin 21:15

the Tim Roth abomination. I just, I didn't I didn't love the whole because I mean, if you remember that the his character. I mean, he was like, he was more like crossbones, like he was like a badass guy. And then they turned him into this. You know, they gave him they injected him and they turned

Tony Berardo 21:33

him into America, the man. The man, Mandarin, said, remember? Yeah, what's his name played? The mandarin and Ironman three. That's kind of what it was like is Trevor Slattery? Yeah, Trevor Slattery. That's what abomination reminded me of his Rother, you

Jeff Dwoskin 21:49

gave him the human face, which I think made the character even weirder again. And it's like this was like a violent monster, who and now as the abomination I get it, when he's human, he could be something else. But it was such a radically different character that maybe they're just assuming you just never nobody remembers seeing which was actually a really good movie. It would have been interesting to have at Norton. It'll

Howard Rosner 22:17

actually be interesting to see if they use him in like the Thunderbolts movie or anything else going forward.

Tony Berardo 22:23

Yeah. Or super worse. I think Secret Wars would be a good chance for him. Yeah,

Howard Rosner 22:27

yeah, sure. He wasn't I know, he wasn't announced as part of the Thunderbolts cast, which doesn't mean it couldn't add him. But yeah, that would be that'd be interesting.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:34

Yeah. But good stuff, but everyone should check it out. I definitely think everyone's there's a lot I'm saying.

Howard Rosner 22:43

Progressive recommend. Yeah. No, no, I

Jeff Dwoskin 22:45

do. You know, again, I like I love

Zack Wiseman 22:49

that for you. I love this for you. The show I love it for you how

Jeff Dwoskin 22:55

such a good boy. Yeah, Casey Ryan plots. The Ally McBeal the dude,

Unknown Speaker 23:00

it's good. It's good. That's a good way

Howard Rosner 23:03

to convince CRPS good people.

Jeff Dwoskin 23:08

All right. That was She Hulk one of the rare times everyone on the show seen the same show that we're discussing. Hope you enjoyed that deeper dive of next from Live episode 111 We're talking aliens. And no, it's not a coincidence that my podcast episode interview this week was Galen Hurd, producer of aliens enjoy. So this is Alien and we try and do my best Larry Roberts

Unknown Speaker 23:38

love to set the precedent Oh,

Jeff Dwoskin 23:39

aliens is a lot like best of the best in that it had two good movies, and then went off the rails in this series. So the aliens which are we're going to talk about today is James Cameron masterpiece. So one, I'm sure everyone has seen alien. So this is more a you should go rewatch aliens sort of thing. Unfortunately, you have to pay to stream it, but likely you have it on VHS or DVD because this is a classic and you probably picked it up along the way at some point. So I'm suggesting a rewatch saying that I've recently we watched it, and it holds up. It's solid. It's really great. And so aliens is a sequel to alien. real clever in the 80s with the names. So but alien was a 1979 movie by Ridley Scott. Right? And if you had a ship in space, that Nostromo am saying that right? And they get an alien on there. And they were they go to a planet and they discover an alien species and infects one of them kills everybody on that. It's one of the best kind of sci fi movies star stars Tom Skerritt, Sigourney Weaver, and a bunch of other great folks, and the only one who survives is Sigourney Weaver. Okay, so she's the only one makes it out alive. So flash forward to 1986. But here's a little background. When we think of James Cameron today who was the director and writer of aliens, we think of that and maybe Terminator and Terminator two. But what's interesting is I started looking back on Aliens. Aliens was made before Terminator even came out. And so James Cameron had a lot of trouble on aliens with the cast and the crew taking him seriously, because they had no one had seen Terminator. And, and they're like, Who's this guy? Think about that in today's mindset. James Cameron, who's created three of the biggest blockbuster billion dollar movies of all time. This is back then now the Terminator, the Terminator, when you think about the Terminator was really his first big movie coming off Parana to the spawning, right? So it's interesting to think that two of the greatest sci fi movies ever were written by and directed by somebody who was just coming out of the gate right here. This is this is early first, James Cameron. It's It's kind of crazy when you think about it, because I don't know if when I was reflecting on it. I was like, you just think it was James Cameron. Of course it's good. But Terminator two and aliens. Those are two of the greatest sequels of all time that and probably in both case cases best the original movie. So it's I mean, I know earlier, Larry man best, best of the best to by any means but I get to say, Yeah, I got it. I got maybe Godfather two is in that in that league two might

Unknown Speaker 26:38

be able to compete with best the best three, maybe, maybe

Jeff Dwoskin 26:41

maybe. Right? Well, let's have Jennifer back to let us know if that is true. So in 1986, one of the way reasons aliens got written as Cameron was doing a kind of a script for it because the Terminator got delayed, because Arnold had to actually stop filming the Terminator and go make that Conan movie Conan, not Conan The redhead, Conan the Barbarian. And so during this time, James Cameron which I didn't realize wrote for as a writing credit for First Blood, part two another amazing sequel Rambo part two, and he did the the aliens script thinking back then, sequels weren't like now where everything was a money grab. This is a difference between 79 and 86. They were interested in the idea of a sequel, but nobody was that hot on it. As a matter of fact, they didn't want 20th century fox didn't even want to go any Weaver because they figured it would be too expensive. And she wanted a million dollars. Think about that demand today. That's like $1 million. And so, but they finally negotiated Cameron and Jalen Hurd who was the producer that got her in, there was some negotiations, all that kind of stuff. So what happens it's now 57 years later, so it's gonna Weaver has been floating around for 57 years. They find her. They bring her back to Earth. She realizes it's been this long. You got Paul riser, there with her. He's got amazing hair. It's worth it. Just to go back to see this movie. Just to see Paul risers hair. It's so dense, it's so crazy. So and this, I think is only his really either first or second movie, like big, big movie that he's done. And the version I rewatched had some of the cutscenes that were put in, not in the original. But there's a very quick thing where Sigourney Weaver realizes her child had grown and died. And interestingly enough, the picture that they use of her kid as an older woman was actually Sigourney Weaver's mother. So Oh, wow. Interesting. So of course, they're so sick Arnie's. There. She's kind of like, oh, okay, thanks for finding me, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, Oh, you remember that planet? You know, the one what you went on last time? Well, there's people live in there now. And they're like, why? And shit. And they're like, yeah, and they're like, oh, and then there's something happened on that planet. She's like, you can't go back. Is it? You? Can't this these are dangerous. Yeah. We got to kill them off. And so they're like, No way I'm going. And then finally, she agrees to go back to the planet, where there's now like a whole base of people living where these aliens are. And of course, you see a scene. Keep in mind from the original. If you only seen the original movie, I may mention a zine that was in an extended cut, but where they find the ship, or they find the area with the eggs, and they get infected. So now there's all this mayhem going on. So now they're sending a military envoy to this planet. So you know, they go to sleep and that little frozen thingy that they do and so they can travel long distances. And now she reluctantly is going back and so they go back. And so also in this movie is Michael Biehn. was Kyle Reese in Terminator. He has a main role in this. And also from Terminator, Lance Hendricks and please Bishop, a synthetic organism, I Android if you will, and an AI so Larry's afraid of AI suddenly after not shutting up about it for months. And those are some of the folks and the other person who was in The Terminator movie that's in this movie now is Bill Paxton. doback. Sen has a much more expanded role. Wade right. Bill Paxton wasn't in Terminator. Yes, he was. If you go back in the very beginning is three punks that are messing Arnold. And one of them is Bill Paxton. And then who else he got? There's a bunch of other other folks. There's just a ton a ton of great people in this movie. It's so they go. And of course, everyone's no one's there when they get there. But then they find the girl Newt and new to Z on the survivor. And she's kind of managed to avoid. And basically there's a lot of aliens and things. So you know, it's a whole thing. There's a mother alien. Apparently, they didn't have any, like, the sketches or anything. They had to recreate all of it just from watching the original movie. So that's interesting. Yeah. So you watch it. There is one interesting thing at the end, when they're like, Oh, the planets gonna blow up in 15 minutes. Ah, well, it actually lasts 15 minutes. It's an actual 15 minutes. I thought that was interesting. Just because usually, usually it's like, oh, we only have 10 minutes and it like it's an hour later. Not the not to say you're being long winded here. But couldn't have we just watched the movie with you. At this point.

Unknown Speaker 31:43

We could have just watched with you.

Jeff Dwoskin 31:45

I don't feel you said that to Larry. When he basically gave you all the best of the best. He was very animated though and took a look at those teeth. I'm trying

Unknown Speaker 31:55

a bit embarrassed for my new teeth. Dammit, They're

Jeff Dwoskin 31:57

glowing. Anyway. It's now recognized as one of the greatest science fiction movies ever. And so I think everyone should check it out.

Speaker 6 32:10

I think what Fred's tried to say is game over man game over.

Jeff Dwoskin 32:16

It's Bill Paxton says he wrote that line by the

Speaker 6 32:18

way. Yeah, amazing line that we use. I still use today from time to time.

Jeff Dwoskin 32:24

He was good comic relief in that movie and go see. Good job, Jeff. I'm sorry. I picked on you. Yeah, that was that was Skimmia complex. My my all time favorites. It's a good one. All right, that was aliens from Live episode 111. And of course, She Hulk from Live episode 93. You can check those both out a lot. As a lot. I now. Go head over to your couch, grab the remote cross your own streams. And I'll see you next time.

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