#237 Crossing The Streams of Love (Bonus Ep61) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

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Hey, oh, it is I'm Jeff Dwoskin, your host of classic conversations and your guide through this bonus episode of crossing the streams. What is crossing the streams? It's where we answer the universal question, what should I binge next? You just finish something and you gotta been something else? Well, you've gone to the right place. We've got your back, we have over 110 hours of streaming suggestions on our YouTube channel. You can check those out, crossing the streams. It's me and my buddies, and gas, and we share great things that we think you should be watching. We're live every Wednesday at 9:30pm Eastern time bringing you binge suggestions. This bonus episode is segments from three of the 110 Plus shows that we've done, just pull in some samples for you. We got seven yards of Chris Norton story, Pee Wee's Big Adventure and fire of love coming to you from Episode 6494 and 100. We're gonna kick things off with seven yards, the Chris Norton story with our co host, Sal de millio. Take it away. So let's talk about seven yards. The Chris Norton story sounds taking a break, I guess. Netflix ran out of Christmas movies.

Sal Demilio 1:48

It's not Christmas anymore. Jeff says love stories will be in about nine months, I'll start doing those. So no, this is a inspirational story. It's a story of Chris Horton. It's called seven yards. I'll tell you why it's called seven yards towards the end. But basically this kid he was a freshman at at a college division three college playing football. He shattered his C three and C four vertebrae on a kickoff. And he was a defensive back. He was a really good defensive back all through high school. And they talked to his parents throughout this thing. But on the night of the football game, he just wanted to be on kickoffs. He always liked kickoffs, he liked to just he was a great tackler and coach really didn't want to put them in that position. But he wanted to and there was just like a little bit of a backstory of what this kid was like, on the kickoff. And if you guys have all played football, you watched it. I think we me and Bob have talked about it on our podcast, this kickoffs are just frickin there's just there's this deadly man loving guys just absolutely just crushing for you. And I think that's why the NFL kind of limited it, as they made the kickoffs easier to get out of the bounce. But anyway, he it was one of those situations where he was going low. And you know, the defender was going low. And he just absolutely well, it's this guy. They don't show this on the documentary. It is a documentary, but they don't show the actual hit. And I think it's because it was probably pretty gruesome, but they show him after just laying there and he is just absolutely out, could not move anything literally could talk. But he couldn't feel his legs, his arms, nothing. So they have to transport them to a Mayo Clinic. But this was kind of and again, it kind of goes in and out as they show you things. They'll talk to people on the documentary as well that are in his life. And one of the coach, they started talking to one of the coaches right after they show you kind of that scene, and he's like, I'm talking to the team, I'm trying to calm everybody down to actually still finish the game. You know, we went back and finished. And I'm talking to the players about you know, having to deal with this emotionally. And he says while he's saying that he's hearing a helicopter, take this kid away. And that's when he really knew it was serious because he thought, Oh, well, if a local hospital couldn't even deal with this injury. This is really, really serious. So anyway, it was the doctors gave him a 3% chance of being ever being able to move below his neck. He is just determined even early on like that is as effed up as it was and he was going through a lot of depression. Obviously, he still didn't believe that he wasn't going to be able to move anything. But then very next are about four days after the surgery when they told him he's just basically never going to move again. He kind of felt something in his shoulder and he told his dad and then he told the doctors and he said that that's just a phantom thinking or whatever they told him there was just a wobble. And he's just like, I was telling his dad like in the middle of the night in the hospital. He's just like, I just really feel that that was something anyway, it is something he starts to get mobility in his in his shoulders and his arms and it's and it but not his legs, his legs. He never redeemed those and but when the rest of his body starts working out, he's rehabbing. He meets a girl, believe it or not in this condition, he gets a better looking girl than what me and Bob had been dating and let's see. I'm not surprised. He does really well. And I'm gonna say a really bad job here. But I want to say he I'll kick this coverage, but I can't say that.

Ron Lippitt 5:25

No, no, you did.

Unknown Speaker 5:29

You did even though you didn't.

Unknown Speaker 5:32

So anyway, even for Kenosha,

Sal Demilio 5:34

very sweet girl who is into, she's into foster care, parents and stuff. She's a sweet girl. And he just, they get along and that's his girlfriend. She takes care of them. He's building back his strength. Well, you know, like this part of the story, Ron, they're watching a Michigan football game one day, and they see I think his name was Brock Mueller. They watch him cross the field with the team, right? Wrong. He probably that's right at that game, but the Emily's his fiancee, his girlfriend at the time says, you know, why don't we go talk to this guy that kind of trained him, maybe you can get your legs back a lot. So they go to him, they interview him. And he does a a year rehab with this guy. And he wants to walk across when he gets his degree, which was four and a half years after his, his accident, there is injury, he wants to walk across the stage to get his diploma. And he does that. And he goes two steps. He only does like two, two and a half sets. But more than anyone even imagine. It got 300 million views. It went viral. He was on Good Morning America. And they kind of show clips of that. And just a really cool story. And then he says, and then he just continues to rehab and get stronger. And he starts a foundation and him and Emily started Foundation, they are gonna get married. And the point of the story towards the end as he wants to get married and be able to walk seven yards down the aisle with his bride. And now he's he does that and he currently is running his foundation. He's still you know, still paralyzed as our time walking, obviously, but he's in a wheelchair. But he he does motivational speaking. And he's very, very successful. It's a really good watch. It's only about an hour and 25 an hour and 30 minutes. Very, very inspirational. Just a really, really just amazing story.

Bob Phillips 7:30

How old is he now? So

Sal Demilio 7:32

I want to say when he got injured, he was obviously 18. So he's probably like 3032 years old now. Maybe 30 years old. Yeah. And doing great. They show him at the end. Like he's got this really cool custom kind of Van that's made for him. And he's just he's just like, kind of looks in the camera. And he goes, Emily's got me going to get something for the kids. He Oh, he actually foster cares, five children, him and his wife. So they have five children. And Wow, great story, man. It's really, really, really

Ron Lippitt 8:02

tough to look into that because you know, Brock Mealer, the history of Michigan was just famous people still, they're still talking about it. And he used to it sounds really similar Sally, because he used to when he got engaged, he got engaged in his condition, just like the story you just a little guy. And then he famously put post it notes on a on a calendar that would say like, you know, 92 days until you walk down the aisle 88 days until you walk down the line each day. And he wrote this amazing workout regimen, you know, because he just would not well yeah, it sounds like a very similar story. So it doesn't surprise me to hear that that you know, Chris Horton probably knew and you know, workout worked out with Brock Miller.

Sal Demilio 8:46

Yeah, absolutely. He did at him and and the person that trained Brock, Brock Mueller, and they interviewed him quite a bit throughout this and it's awesome. Yeah, it's a great start. Maybe the kid just never gave up every time a doctor or there was one scene where he's just it right after maybe he got hurt. And one of the doctors comes in and just tells him You know, there's just, there's just what I'm seeing on the charts and what I'm looking at, there's just no way you're never gonna be able to walk across that stage to get your diploma and, and they were just be honest with him, and he's like, he's just like, I'm not I'm not taking no for an answer. It's great. Great story. Great story.

Bob Phillips 9:23

I love those stories, but it's there. So not me. Because I mean, if that had been me, I'd be like, Look, just fucking roll me off the end of a boat. With a anchor around my neck. Just I'm not I can't do this. Yeah, it's

Ron Lippitt 9:39

did any of you guys see the Alex Smith? Documentary? Yeah, it was on any SPO Wow. I mean, it sounds it's amazing. What athletes Yeah, I think athletes maybe singularly are able to overcome these just incredible physical challenges. Yeah, well, maybe. Yeah.

Bob Phillips 9:58

Oh, I'm sorry. I was just gonna say They're their physical attributes that make them star professional athletes also allow them to heal. Well that where the rest of us will be like, Hey.

Sal Demilio 10:09

Yeah, yeah, and I think another thing is because we've all played sports here, maybe besides Well, table tennis stones counts as a sport, doesn't it? Yeah.

Jeff Dwoskin 10:22

So does bowling sounds good?

Sal Demilio 10:31

But we've all been in that athletics. situation where, like five I'm sure you got hurt and you couldn't box or I couldn't get the ball when I was in high school because I hurt my knee. You're so bummed out about it. Just for one game. Can you imagine? You know, this kid's tackling somebody, he's a fine athlete at a college and then all of a sudden he even says that he goes, all of a sudden, two hours later, I'm in a, you know, I'm in a hospital and I can't move and he's just freaking out. That's

Bob Phillips 11:00

it for me. Someone's coming in and pulling a Million Dollar Baby on my ass. I'm done over and out. Yeah, I don't have any courage for that.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:09

If you're in a jam, don't call by No.

Bob Phillips 11:12

I mean, I'll help you. Me put a railroad spike through my head. It's over.

Sal Demilio 11:19

And Scott and Jeff are starting a podcast called bowling and table tennis.

Scott Curtis 11:25

No, here, here it is, though. I played football and it high school football is frickin brutal as well. I mean, I just got just totally ruined playing high school football. And I would I would say that if I had two young kids now. I wouldn't even let them play.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:45

Not your hair. Right. I

Bob Phillips 11:46

hear that from a lot of people. Yeah,

Scott Curtis 11:48

yeah. Yeah, it's I can still remember how brutal it was. And there in the 70s and 80s. There was like, no rules to protect the kids anyway.

Ron Lippitt 12:02

No, sometimes sometimes. You know, when I played they would rip that flag out of your back pocket so hard that it would spin you around. And so hard. I mean, brutal man.

Bob Phillips 12:14

Profiles and courage run.

Jeff Dwoskin 12:16

That's not the same. I remember golfing once and being so frustrated by the wind.

Larry Roberts 12:24

Windmill, the damn

Jeff Dwoskin 12:25

windmill. Well, you know, Sal, that was awesome. Your views are always very passionate. All right, Sal. That was amazing. seven yards that Chris Norton story from Live episode 64 of next is friend of the show. Zach Wiseman, from Episode 100 fire of love. Take it away, Zach. All right, let's it's time for Zach to shine with fire. Yeah, fire

Zack Wiseman 13:00

love. i So I'm a fan of documentaries. I like learning anything I like. I like stories that are told through beautiful artistic ways. I was in a movie theater once and I saw like a trailer for this fire love. It was done by National Geographic. And I'm like, Why is there a National Geographic documentary having a trailer in a theater and the way that it was filmed made me think that it was like a Wes Anderson movie. It had these really weird like matted color tones had a really crazy breathy like voiceover and it started with these two people that are just standing beside a volcano, just watching lava come out. And the narration just says this is the last day they're alive. And I'm like, wow, what is this? Right? So I check it out. It comes out on Disney plus, and I saw it in a theater but I waited for Disney plus for it to watch the second time. And it is the one of the most interesting documentaries I've seen. Because every bit of it comes from the 70s or 80s. There's nothing new. There's nothing that they have. They didn't I haven't gone back and interviewed anybody about this. It's just a culmination of video that they have about these two people. Their names are Katya and Maurice craft, and they're Vulcanus. They love volcanoes. They love washing lava. They love understanding how life begins. And no, they're not not fans of Vulcans. I mean, they might be but so, you know, like I said, this thing starts off with these two people that are in love. And they're equal in their jobs. They both have the same job. They both love just looking at volcanoes and understanding how this shit works. But you know, in the very beginning of it, that this is the last day that they're alive. So yeah, you're watching this documentary trying to figure out how these two people that are in love how they're going to die. So it has this interesting kind of touch to it where you're watching the love story. You're watching some of the most beautiful, like awesome displays of volcanic eruptions. While these two people these French people are just kicking lava like with these cool spacesuits on so the whole thing goes through and it like I said it's narrated by Miranda, Julie. And it's all based on just old footage. Now, the thing that strikes me the most is that they are just so in love with each other. One of the things that she says is, look, if he's going to die, I would rather be with him. And that's the kind of stuff that I'm into. I'm into real love, you know, I mean, not just like fake love, like, I want to be angry at my wife kind of love, like you guys are into, I want actual love where somebody wants me to do what I'm loving, and also love what they're loving while they're loving me. But the thing is that they're going to die. And you know that. So this is a story of love, a story of ending, while also watching the birth of this planet. Lava is the newest thing on the earth, right? So you're watching these people in their degradation, while loving each other at their most while also watching the Earth begin. So it's a beautiful thing of watching people dancing on volcanoes knowing that they're going to die at the end of the day. And they're not like just dangerous seekers, they really want to understand lava, and they want to understand volcanoes to help out the world, which is cool, and they love it. And then they die. And it is gorgeous. It is though it's done by Wes Anderson, the way that it's filmed the way that it's like put together and edited, it has just such a like a sweeping quality that makes you just want to just sit back in your in your couch and just be like, I don't know what I'm about to watch. But it is so gorgeous. How this is happening. I absolutely loved it. The score is cool. It has this real kind of like 80s techno, it's done by one half of a group called air if people are old musicians, a half of that group is the one who does

Jeff Dwoskin 16:31

score supply with air supply.

Zack Wiseman 16:35

supplies. The only downside that I have to it is I think there's a bit too much narration and if you're a fan of cinema, narration should give you something that the strain is not showing you, it should give you a little more story than what I can actually see. And I think that the narration makes it more of a film than a documentary. But either way, I absolutely love it. I'll watch it again. Because it's just so intriguing. Literally, you could put it on and just listen to it. And you're like, I don't know what's happening. But I have to watch this thing, right? So please, if you have Disney plus Felwood on and just watch some beautiful lava and understand that people can be in love while shits burning up around them. So

Sal Demilio 17:12

there's this show the love of going over their bodies and stuff at the end.

Zack Wiseman 17:17

Well, I'm not going to give you the ending because I want people to watch it and understand. But they got one of the guys biggest goals was to make like a canoe and actually like a boat down the volcano. And you and you think that the wife was like no, but she's like it would need to be some kind of space age metal like she's just in and they both love each other and they love what they're doing and if she thought they were in Venice

Jeff Dwoskin 17:43

the movie start the movie starts out you know they die and then the whole movie you're trying to figure out Yeah, I mean they're like sounds like it's white lotus.

Bob Phillips 17:55

So Zach i Can you can you say whether or not they like went into the volcanoes? Are they was there any of them left?

Ron Lippitt 18:06

Did they jump off the big Whoo.

Zack Wiseman 18:08

They did they had to sacrifice themselves just to make sure Luckily, they brought some nice luggage which saved them

Speaker 8 18:17

nobody remember that they got blown out and they got blown out. Yeah, and they found their luggage again and then they floated

Jeff Dwoskin 18:27

to a volcano it sounds like there's scenes where they're like Yep, that was that we thought that was gonna work and I didn't like in Last Man on Earth where the guy is learning how to fly the I think the HELOC the plane where it takes off in the plane and crash. Where do you find his deck on Disney Disney plus this? It's in the National Geographic section of Disney plus, again, say that again, please.

Zack Wiseman 18:53

National Geographic. Oh, that's what you said crash gradual need graphic you can find around Disney plus is not a big deal sounded like what

Speaker 8 19:01

you should do is grab that. Grab that soundbite and then post it and right afterwards say Hi, I'm Jeff Dwoskin and I can help you start a podcast

Jeff Dwoskin 19:13

all right, that was Zach. Check out some nobodies and his many many podcasts and our final spotlight show the day another friend of the show Larry Roberts, Episode 94 Bringing us his 80s magic with Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Take it away there Roberts. You guys ready for this? All right. All right, let's start with since I didn't get the thunder back on. Let's talk about Pee Wee's Big Adventure Larry's here to take us through the 80s like no one else can.

Larry Roberts 19:46

I gotta tell you you know this is it's always fun to come on the show. And I've been prepping for this because you invited me what I think two weeks ago we put it on the calendar and I started prepping to come back on the show. And I just knew because for some reason I've been tapping back into the 80s Ninja movies again, right Recently, and I knew I was going to come on here and as you mentioned a minute ago talk about ninja three, the domination which is the best worst ninja movie ever made. And when I presented that to you it was earlier today, wasn't it? I said, you haven't talked about ninja three and you go Hey, bro, you might want to go back and listen to episode of eight, three August 3 of this year when you came on and talked about, well, Ninja three, the domination so it kind of threw me off my game. So like holy shit. And what am I going to talk about now? And I just finished up a tour of Texas here speaking tour for pod fest which is a podcasting conference that takes place in January, and I hit San Antonio and Houston and Austin in spoken all three spots. And while I was in San Antonio, although I'm born and raised in the state of Texas, I've never been to the Alamo. So the gentleman who was hosting the event there in Austin, I'm sorry, in San Antonio, took us downtown, and took me to the Alamo. So with that recent visit to the Alamo, I was inspired to talk about Pee Wee's Big Adventure. And each time I've been here I've always talked about a movie from the early to mid 80s. And this was another one that had a massive, massive Kristine massive impact on my life, especially at this time. I was about 13 years old when it came out in July of 1985. And I was kind of a gangly, skinny little kid little nerd kind of kid and this movie just resonated with me. And when you dig into Pee Wee's Big Adventure, it's all about Pee Wee Herman and his beloved bicycle. Now who is a teen growing from that? What's that?

Christine Blackburn 21:27

The bikes name was comment. The bikes name

Larry Roberts 21:29

was comic. And as we were growing up who didn't have a bike that they loved, but no one loved their bike like peewee loved his bike, and one of the cool things about this movie was the protagonist was Frances his his arch nemesis, and he wanted Pee Wee's bike this whole time. And interestingly enough, the character though the gentleman that plays Francis was also a character in one of the movies that I've reviewed before King Wolf, he was on the basketball team and Teen Wolf as well. So it's always cool to be able to go back and see these characters that are all in similar films from that same time period. But the whole idea behind the movie is Pee Wee's beloved bicycle gets stolen. And he goes on an adventure to retrieve his bike and it takes him literally all over the country and introduces him to a number of intriguing, very interesting and dynamic characters, one of which we all remember, large March so we all remember large March and the one cool thing about large barges. It was really spontaneous. It wasn't even supposed to make it into the movie. But this was also the debut of a very famous director and we've all heard of Tim Burton. This was Tim Burton's first movie as a director so you can see all bits of timber and throughout the movie, but especially in the character design for Large Marge when the truck driver she transforms into large bars you can see touches of what was what's Jack Skellington movie, which one has that nightmare I've ever before. I literally just watched it this week because my wife had never seen it. So you can see the same type of character designs and The Nightmare Before Christmas that we saw there with Large Marge. But peewee continues his adventures, he escapes from large March and ends up in Texas where he goes on a tour of the Alamo because he has heard that his bicycle is in the basement of the Alamo. And after a very long tour P we want him to ask questions and the tour guide not allowing questions till the very end, he finally gets to raise his hand and says, Are we ever gonna get to see the basement, and she proceeded to tell him that now Honey, there's no basement in the Alamo, and she laughs at him and everybody laughs A peewee and he feels really stupid. So he continues his search for his bike. And he ends up on Warner Brothers Studios where we see a bevy of movies that we've seen before we see Godzilla, we see just about anything and everything you can imagine on the Warner Brothers Studios, and he also ends up finding his bike. So he steals his bike back and there's this great escape and he's trying to escape off the Warner Brothers Studios being chased by Keystone Cops and everybody else that's involved in the chase. And eventually he gets captured. The executives there at Warner Brothers hear his story and think this would make an amazing movie. And finally peewee agrees for the movie to be made but it has to be made like a James Bond action flick. And the gentleman plays PW Herman in the action flick at the end of the movie is none other than the father of Thanos. himself. Josh Berlin's dad, James Brolin actually ends up playing PW Herman the double oh seven type character there at the end. peewee goes on to be with his girl Dottie. Even though he was a loner, they get together in the movie and everybody lives happily ever after. So if you want a fun and engaging and totally 80s movie, I highly recommend Pee Wee's Big Adventure.

Jeff Dwoskin 24:41

Not only was it Tim Burton, it was Danny Elfman, his first word by

Larry Roberts 24:46

any open as well. Yes. So you typically if you see a Tim Burton movie, it's going to be scored by Danny Elfman. I think there was one movie I for some reason my brain is not working. I need more mineral water here, obviously. But there was a movie that those two They had a falling out on and he didn't score one of Tim Burton's movie but movies but the rest of them you can find find him there on each of his soundtracks

Jeff Dwoskin 25:08

written by Paul Rubens and the late great Phil Hartman. Yes. And Michael var Hall. This is their first movie they ever wrote. Also, my wife's obsessed with this movie, I have to say, and then I have to say, I'm not sure I ever saw it.

Larry Roberts 25:23

Are you kidding me? No. Wow.

Jeff Dwoskin 25:26

I know. It's like a classic, but I'm not sure.

Christine Blackburn 25:29

I saw it. I saw it, of course, but a long time ago. But that synopsis was so accurate. You did a great job, Larry. And now I'm going to definitely get my kid to watch it with me because they're in film school. And they said the 80s they study all movies, but I think that's a great 80s movie, like you said, and

Larry Roberts 25:52

a generation perfectly man. It's just got all the elements that we look for in 80s type movies, and was Paul Rubin at his best. You know, a lot of people don't realize it, but the movie was based off of a stage show that Paul Rubens was actually doing at the Roxy there in LA. And yeah, an executive from HBO saw him. They took it to HBO and it was an HBO special, which was more adult oriented. It was much more blue than the movie everyone and they family friendly. They made it a little more family friendly and made Pee Wee's Big Adventure which led to Pee Wee's Playhouse and all sorts of other things. So it was

Jeff Dwoskin 26:29

it was great. So this came before Pee Wee's Playhouse.

Larry Roberts 26:32

This came before the television series a Saturday. Yes, they did have Pee Wee's Playhouse. That's what it was called on HBO as well. And we saw all kinds of people that were on that show. I mean, Lourdes was Laurence Fishburne. Yeah. Laurence Fishburne was on there. Tons of people that we would recognize were characters on that show and a lot of them showed up back in the movie as well in different roles that we wouldn't recognize them from Pee Wee's Playhouse, but I can remember even as a kid before the movie came out watching HBO when we got it for the, you know, the weekend special or whatever it would be because my parents were too poor to buy HBO. But wow, look, I got to see it on HBO and I was blown away. And of course the language and the coarseness and the the innuendos and that sort of thing. But it was common back then. I mean, I loved comedy from then. So that fit right into that era, and it was right there up with the kinesins and the Carlin's and the and the Robin Williams type sets. It was that same type of comedy. So it was interesting to see that transition from an HBO special to the family friendly split or show that it was in the movie.

Christine Blackburn 27:32

Do you think it was a one camera? Was it a one camera television show?

Larry Roberts 27:37

I haven't seen in so long, Christine. I don't want to say that. It was It seems like it probably was, but it was just a stage show. It was play, you know, so I think it might have been I think it might have been, but it's been a long, long time since I'd seen that one.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:56

All right, that was Larry Roberts bringing us the Aedes Pee Wee's Big Adventure. That was live episode 94. If you want to check out the whole episode, a lot of homework for you. This week got Pee Wee's Big Adventure, seven yards of Chris Norton story and fire of love. If you're not already running to your couch, finding your cozy spot grabbing the remote crossing your own streams. I don't know what you're doing. Thanks for joining us, and we'll see you next time.

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