#169 Wakeup to Crossing the Streams in 3D (Bonus Ep32) – Great TV binge watching suggestions!

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Jeff Dwoskin 0:29

Hey, oh, it is I Jeff Dwoskin your host of classic conversations and of crossing the streams. Welcome to a bonus episode, where we feed you segments from our live show crossing the streams I know so easy. What is crossing the streams? That is a place where we answer the universal question what should I be binge watching next? It's a group of friends just talking about shows that they love. And think you will love to these bonus episodes. Our segments from various episodes of our live show, which is every Wednesday at 9:30pm. Eastern time. You could watch along with us in common along on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter. We love when our fans comments along with us. But today, we've got three special segments from Episode 78 Howard Rozzers, bring in Anchorman wake up Ron Burgundy, from Episode 87 Yours Truly with Parana 3d from Episode 89, the champion with Bob Phillips. As a matter of fact, let's kick it off with Bob telling us all about the champion. Take it away, Bob. All right. Speaking of well, not funny, but let's go to our next movie, which is the champion, which is a holocaust drama around a boxer. So of course, goes yeah,

Bob Phillips 1:55

I, I appreciate this being recommended to me, I had never heard of it. And I don't think a lot of people heard of it came out in the height of the pandemic, or it was supposed to come out then was delayed until 2021. It's a Polish film, zero name actors in here. Not even not even a Brit thrown in there to get some name recognition. Usually they'll do that in European productions. So the story is about Teddy, Petra kowski, Petra kowski think I'm pronouncing that correctly. In 1940. He was in the first wave of prisoners taken to Auschwitz from Poland, the fact that he was a boxer is, you know, obviously, it plays a big part in the movie, but I had to I had to kind of adjust my thinking about this watching the movie to enjoy it because this is not a boxing movie. It's a it's a boxing is integral to the plot and integral to you, obviously rooting for him, well, we root for anybody who was in Auschwitz. But in this case, he became a beacon for other prisoners to pin their hopes on. When they were you know, when they thought all was lost, they had this little guy, Teddy, who was a it was 114 pounder, that's a Bantam weight. And he was a Polish champion. I don't think he was a pro champion at the time. But when he was taken to Auschwitz, it wasn't readily known that he was a boxer, and he just kind of was doing his thing. And of course, the Germans find out, and then he becomes the entertainment. Right? It's so hard to watch and not think of how how bitter a person could become in that situation, and how devastated they could become. I mean, there are some scenes that are just that are just almost too much to watch. I mean, they, you know, they, the Germans put them up for sport, right. And they know he's a good boxer, and they pit him against other prisoners. And he's just walking right through him, because most of them, including him, are malnourished, they're not getting any sleep. They're working all day. I mean, you know, it's just horrific. Well, then, then the Germans show some, I wouldn't say kindness, but they figured that he's better alive than dead. So they give him extra food, and they now he's fighting some Germans, right? And he's beating them. He's dispatching them with regularity. And that's, you know, that obviously, that gives hope to the Auschwitz prisoners. And so like I said, I would kept switching gears as I was watching this, it's not Rocky and it's not the pianist it's something unto itself is very good the boxing scenes because I'm a purist, you know, I'm gonna look at it and go and you know, I, you know, that clearly he didn't get hit with that, but whatever. It doesn't even matter. The story is the story. It's a true story. It's, it's amazing what this man does. I don't want to give everything away. But during his time fighting for the German sport, they inject him with typhus. I mean, they're experimenting on this guy as they did other prisoners and There was a point at which he is offered his freedom, he can actually leave the camp and go somewhere else. And he says, No, you know, the original John McCain right now not leaving. So I have huge respect for the guy for a number of different reasons, as you would imagine, but he also had a very interesting life after he left after the war was over. He was at the Nuremberg trials, he testified against Rudolf Hess. He was married three times. He was a bit of a rounder, you know, he was a little ladies man. And he was just just a character. You know, he he didn't, it doesn't appear that he carried those scars from the camp all his life. I mean, I'm sure he, nobody could have gone through that without having some scars. But yeah, married three times, comes out and, and wins. I think he won a European title in 1946. Kemp live in his life. And it's a it's a great uplifting story. One thing that I thought was really interesting about this, I read the technically this is the first movie now when you watch it, it's I watched the English dubbed version. And this is the first film I just read about it yesterday that saw the first film where they they dubbed in English, but they also went back and they changed the mouth movements of the actors to match the English because when you're speaking Polish, you can't just throw English out of that mouth. It you know, you know how odd it looks. But this was done by a firm in Tel Aviv, and it relies on AI. And they say it's similar to a deep fake, but not the same. So when you're watching it, there's moments where it's a bit like the Irishman remember, the the D aging, you're watching a 75 year old Robert DeNiro, beating up a guy in the street, and it's just so bad. This isn't as bad, but it takes you out of it a little bit. But it doesn't diminish the story. It's great story. And whether you like boxing or not, it's it's well worth watching.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:01

So I watched it also. So a couple of things in the box, right? There's, there's a few movies that were none of which any of us would have seen, but foreign films are based on his life. And the interesting thing, and the reason I would say people should watch this movie, it's a very intriguing story. But there's also an element to it, where they don't pull any punches on the Auschwitz scenes or the vulgarities of how the Nazis treated the polish or the Jews or anyone in the camps. And if, you know as as we sort of enter this new kind of era, where people are, you know, forgetting that other people are humans, right, where women's rights trans rights any any, any other type of person like that Jews, blacks, anything is it's important to watch a movie like this, and sort of see firsthand where that rabbit hole can go to, and how horrible it can actually become where people stop thinking of other people as human beings. And you know, there's many scenes in this movie, where they march the Jews and the polish and people and whoever's in those camps, take off your clothes, we're gonna give you a shower, you'll get a warm meal after and you know, they the people walk in, they drop in the containers of poison. You hear the screams and they're dead. And they multiple times they showed that and just Nazis walking up to people and just killing them because it was convenient or fun. And it's one of those things where when you watch it, it's it's something you can say, oh, it happened then. But it's the same kind of mentality that is starting to emerge. Now. When people scream, let's go Brandon or people even handed the idea that a civil war might be something that we're on the path to watch a movie like this and start to realize what dangers that line of thinking is and how we have to really kind of come out of it before it's too late. Yeah, a

Bob Phillips 9:03

lot going on. Yeah. So

Jeff Dwoskin 9:08

all right, Bob, great job. As always, I know that got a little deep, but it's important message. And it's a great movie, definitely check out the champion. But Let's lighten it up for a second and head on over to a segment from Episode 78 Howard Rosner Anchorman wake up Ron Burgundy, the last movie Take it away, Ross. I'm really interested in this next. Anchorman wake up Ron Burgundy.

Howard Rosner 9:33

I will tell you that I did not know that this even existed before this past Monday as it was mentioned to me in passing, and I looked it up and I'm like, holy crap. So first of all, I have to go back and tell you that Jeff and I with our Why are my ex wife is still wife. We saw Anchorman in the theater together. I think if I'm not mistaken, you and I set in front of our wives. And we're like smacking each others laughing. They wanted to know, they knew we were going to be laughing like, like school girls. And, and rightfully so. I will never forget to this day. We were laughing, laughing laughing. But the moment of Anchorman, when Baxter the dog jumps down into the bear pit and does the speech, titled The two of us were snapped out our nose. I will never forget it, sir. Yeah, I came across one of your chi did my journeys. So I love Anchorman. It is one of my favorite comedies of all time, no question. It is quotable. From beginning to end.

Bob Phillips 10:42

How do you feel about Anchorman two? I know it's a

Jeff Dwoskin 10:45

little emergence here. But let's let's focus on Anchorman one. And then let's do in command. Yeah.

Howard Rosner 10:54

So what this is, and it's when you're watching it, it's stunning. They took unused footage from the first movie, and they must have shot these other plotlines that maybe they were going to use a secondary plotlines, and then basically deleted scenes from the first movie, I guess some of them are deleted scenes on this DVD for the first movie, but they pieced them together with updated narration and turned it into a complete secondary movie, basically, is set just after the first movie ended. So they make it where Ron and Veronica are co anchors. And it is, it's not a great, great movie. I'll say that. But first of all, it's just stunning. When you're watching it going, how much extra did they shoot that they didn't use? Like, I mean, there's there's some scenes, there's a scene where the four of them are driving in a station wagon. And it's, I think it was set to be right in the first movie. When Ron comes back when they call him back to broadcast after he's been exiled to broadcast. You know, the beer giving birth, the paddy giving birth, and they're in the station wagon driving to it. And it's a follow up on champ the scenes of you know, basically saying, Yeah, I miss you. We, when this is all over, we should get an apartment together. And it's him professing his love and his attraction to Ron. And it's, it's a really funny scene. So you can see they're like, Okay, that was too long. They didn't need it. But they turned it into something totally different, which is amazing. So that's the first part. That's kind of cool. The first third starts kind of slow. The middle third is hysterical. It's very historic. Final Third, the end of it was okay. But basically the gist of the story line is Veronica is trying to get more big stories. And there's a local terrorist group that calls themselves the alarm clock trying to wake everybody up. That needs my Rudolph, Paul Hauser who's been at a bunch of stuff. He's the guy that had the party that they steal the alcohol from and Superbad, that kick sad geometry vo in the, in the balls at the beginning of that scene. It's some good people. And they're this they're robbing banks. And Veronica has come upon a lead to track them down. She's figured out who they are Ron and the new and the boys. Rod decides he wants to be an investigative journalist as well as serious journalist, he steals the lead and they track them down and basically gets Veronica kidnap, he's got to come to the rescue. And, and that's the plot of the movie. Essentially.

Bob Phillips 13:52

It's all from unused footage from the first totally, they shot.

Howard Rosner 13:56

Nothing new. I mean, and again, it's a it's not a half hour short. It's a full length movie. And when you're watching, I think it's

Bob Phillips 14:06

so yeah, that's crazy.

Howard Rosner 14:10

I never knew it was either. So yeah, it's probably the stealing the show in it. The two that's still the show is Fred Willard is just two or three. Literally. Not. I mean, amazing, man. They make references to his kid, obviously, in the first one when he's talking on the phone. His kid is in the mood in this movie, and his kid has played by Justin Long, who always kills us. Well. Look, if you're a huge Anchorman fan, don't get your hopes up that it's going to be a great follow up, but it definitely fits the canon of Anchorman.

Bob Phillips 14:48

All right, let me ask you this now, is it better than the official Anchorman tool?

Howard Rosner 14:54

I don't think so. So I I am sorry, Jerry didn't the more like I I really was disturbed watching Anchorman two in the movie theater when I see it on cable now or I think I bought, I didn't have Anchorman own. So I bought like the anchorman Anchorman two bundle on Apple TVs iTunes. So I own both. I've watched it a couple of times, there are some very funny bits into there. First of all, there's a couple of lines I use all the time out of nowhere, which is, you know, what they call bats, the chicken of the cave, or, you know, the rail yard scene, the scene where Brian goes, yeah, the scene where Ron goes to the family of his boss, and he's trying to act. He's trying to use all these African American cliches and language that uses that seems so funny because it's so awkward and uncomfortable. That continuation of the second fight scene in Yeah,

Bob Phillips 16:00

I lied to the second fight scene.

Howard Rosner 16:02

You know, with Robins.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:04

I've never I never I've never made it to the second fight scene, the anchorman two Anchorman two. Well, let me just say Anchorman one. So here's Anchorman one. Yeah, how much I love Anchorman. There's me on Halloween. I was at work. So I was I was obsessed. I love Ron Burgundy. I even have what is your My youngest daughter, Emma. We had, she would wear the hat, the wig and the jacket, the prom that costume. And I taught her all the lines. She's nice, I gotta put it like like six year old. Like you ate the whole wheel Geez. And not even bad. I'm kind of impressed. So Anchorman two i, we left. And for some reason, I don't remember why. But something happened. We had to leave. It was never a movie, I was more happy to say that you didn't care to follow up at five years later, I was watching it for free on cable, and still couldn't. And I mean, I love welfare. I love Anchorman one. And he command two, I just there wasn't anything. And oddly enough, it was like, they did the same thing with Anchorman two, there's an entire second version of Anchorman two, because they shot so much and just did stuff off the cuff. Well, you know, that's funny, like for a scene. But if you're seriously making a movie, I mean, it's like you have to have some respect for the people that are eventually going to watch it and not just have a good time shooting it. But anyhow, but that's yeah, Anchorman two is I thought, an abomination. If

Howard Rosner 17:37

you if you love the first one again, it's not. It's not expecting Anchorman, it follows up pretty well. And again, one of the reasons it's kind of better than Anchorman two, is because you can see pieces that were cut from scenes that are great in the first movie, and how they just by changing the narration, they incorporated them at sort of different moments. Like there's a scene where Brian Fantana is reporting on something and his hair's wet, and a guy walks by and makes a comment about how bad he smells. And you're like, Okay, I see now that that was a follow up to the sex Panther seen, you know, after they hose them down, like that's where that came from. So you can kind of see how, where those cuts come from and why they didn't use them in the first way. But how they incorporated them into this kind of pseudo sequel, I guess you'd say, I don't

Bob Phillips 18:33

remember a single iconic scene from that movie. I saw it in the theaters and just left went okay, whatever. I don't remember anything except the the extended fight scene, which I thought was funny. That was it.

Howard Rosner 18:46

I you know, and the other part is the clear parodying of CNN doing stories and stuff that that doesn't matter. Yeah, nobody cares about that was it was it's not a great movie. I never watched it from beginning to end. But if it's on cable, and I'm eating lunch, I'll watch

Jeff Dwoskin 19:07

that's a lot of Anchorman lore great story. Roz loved hearing about when we first saw that movie together. So fun. So fun. So many memories. Tell us what Anchorman movie you love the best. Tag us on Twitter at Jeff Dwoskin show we want to hear it. But let's wrap things up. The next segment is from Episode 87 Parana 3d Which happens to star Jessica czar, my guests on classic conversations episode 168. Just because also the star of Gossip Girl and The Orville. But here we're going back to Parana 3d. You're gonna love it. Enjoy it. Let's talk about Parana. Now this is Parana, three D, okay, yeah. So

Howard Rosner 19:50

wouldn't watch it without three days.

Jeff Dwoskin 19:53

Right? Well, this is product 3d. This is came out in 2010. So let me let me Quick history Jaws comes out in 1975. That's a movie about shark. Maybe you've heard of it. And then Purana comes out now Parana, the original Parana comes out. This is sort of this is the first in a series of low B budget films inspired by Jaws by legendary producer Roger Corman, the director of the 1978 harana keep in mind is just backstory, we're gonna talk about the 2010 was directed by Joe Dante, who went on to direct many many many things that you likely love, including the howling the burbs whatever we got, you know, just a lot of great stuff he's done. I think there might be Gremlins in there. Anyway, he does a lot of good stuff. So then Parana, which took the idea of Jaws, but you know adapted. It's a little fish that each year had a sequel. And that sequel in 1982 was called prior to the spawning. The director of this film was a little known director named James Cameron. So now this now this film almost was tried. They tried to block at the jaws people because it was coming out the same time as JAWS two, so you can imagine, but Steven Spielberg sort of gave a little bit of a blessing. And then that came out. Alright, so that was called Parana to the spawning. That's a James cat James Cameron went on to do Terminator, and of course, Avatar. So it's camera is that I Camera?

Ron Lippitt 21:36

Camera, a little film called Titanic,

Jeff Dwoskin 21:38

and oh, yes, and Titanic and he did have a talk now. Now flash forward to 2010 and you have the movie product. Now. I know a lot of you kind of scoffed for a moment. But you know, I love Sharknado and this is going to be in the vein of Sharknado. I will say that Parana and it's called Parana. And but is it is also called prana. 3d as it's it's in 3d it was released in 3d, but it's also a remake. It's sort of a comedy remake a loose remake of the original Ferghana. Now just to give you an idea on Rotten Tomatoes, the budget called the score. The score on Rotten Tomatoes is 74%. Now the audience score is 43%. But the critics gave it a rousing they loved this movie. Now, before we get into it. The director of this movie was Alexandra Ray asure, I believe I'm pronouncing that correctly. He also redid the Hills Have Eyes in 2006 and mirrors in 2018. So he's got a little bit of a pedigree. Now, you may say Parana, well Purana was able to do with jaws to wasn't able to do, which may be one of the reasons they which was to get this Parana movie was able to get Richard Dreyfus to be in the movie, which jaws to was not. Now this movie with Richard Dreyfus. In the very beginning, it's more of a cameo, but he literally plays the same character.

Bob Phillips 23:06

He's in this. Yes. Wow. Okay,

Jeff Dwoskin 23:10

so now this the whole idea of this movie now, this movie has Elizabeth Shue Christopher Lloyd, Jerry O'Connell, Jessica zoar, who that's from Jessica Zora is on the Orville right now. And she was very hot at the time this movie came out. It was like in between seasons, early seasons of the gossip girl and she was one of the main characters on Gossip Girl, and Adam Scott is in this movie as well. So there's an ving rimes is in this movie as well. So the cash thing being Rames is in his mobile as well. Somebody's drinking, so but all I'm saying is my point is, it's got a good director. It's got an amazing cast. And I gotta say, it's a fun movie to watch. It's on Netflix, you can watch on Netflix, and I will say that while everyone delivers the expected Oh, no, the you know, everyone's getting in by Purana great acting, Jerry O'Connell deserves an Oscar for his portrayal of his character and this is so is so over the top douchebag in this movie, he's like a porn guy. Yeah, and like he the his main thing is just to give you an idea of this movie, so they would this movie is so gross. By the way if you can't handle gross then you can there's a scene where like they're all coming in with all the teenagers on spring break are in the water and in the boats. And the just the prana is just coming in. And when I tell you if you can picture like a Jaws being bit once imagined, like the gross SNESs of like 1000 fish just tearing somebody apart, or like someone's hair getting caught in a motor of a boat and it just you can picture what happens it happens all right, it's like I'm not gonna describe it. It's so horrible. i It's so horrible to watch, but it's also so fun.

Bob Phillips 25:00

Watch. Is it played for laughs Is it campy?

Jeff Dwoskin 25:03

Yeah, it's like a comedy or comedy horror film. And so Christopher Lloyd plays the guy. Oh, these fish. This is important they catch one, right? And so what happens is this sort of like thing underwater and it opens up underneath and it opens into this new, you know, into a caverns or whatever. So that's how the product get there. So these are like ancient products, not just proud of their ancient product. Oh, Hunter. We are, you know, he knows of course all about the prana and Adam Scott plays it straight in his movie. Great. And it's just, it's fun if you want to like, in the same sense that I'm sure selling the OSI is fine. This is a fun movie to watch. At no point you go, this is the worst movie ever. You go this is like a movie. I just shouldn't be enjoying fun to watch. But you have to be able to, you shouldn't just Sharknado was gross. If you didn't like the smushing this goes way beyond that. Okay, so Jerry O'Connell falls in the water, and they pull him out. And half is 90% of his flesh is gone. But he's and he's like, they took my penis, they took my penis, and then there's a whole 3d scene of his penis floating, and then the fish eats it and then spits it out. It's it's so unnecessary, unnecessary and yet unnecessary, and yet necessary. So this movie comes from a long line of, you know, reputable versions of these types of the movies, horror comedy type things. Now this movie did so well. It did really well. I think 25 million budget I think maybe like 80 million. So it did well for summer fair. And it spawned the movie Chrono three D D, which is not as talked about, as much as Chrono three

Bob Phillips 26:47

is being carried out, right?

Howard Rosner 26:50

It wasn't canon. That's why

Jeff Dwoskin 26:52

Yeah. Yeah, that movie basically was horrible reviews all around. When did this movie come out? Jeff, the one that you're this is 2010. Okay,

Bob Phillips 27:03

so CGI is good. But at that time, yeah, the

Jeff Dwoskin 27:06

fish is great. The Parana are great in this movie. And then getting eaten is great. And it's funny it sets itself up for a sequel at the very very end. And but then they just, you know, they just go schlock with it. So Ron's like, this is no no, this is great. This

Ron Lippitt 27:28

is No dude, this is right up my alley. I would I would absolutely watch something like this. My watch dribble and something because you know, you're talking to somebody who absolutely adores Sharknado. So

Bob Phillips 27:42

Sharknado fan. I didn't know that. Oh,

Ron Lippitt 27:45

how could you not be a Sharknado?

Bob Phillips 27:46

I never watched it. I don't know.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:48

So yeah. Purana it's a fun movie.

Ron Lippitt 27:51

Is there any? Any newsy

Jeff Dwoskin 27:55

nudity? There's violence? This movie's got it all. It's got it.

Howard Rosner 28:00

I laughed. I cried.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:02

It's

Bob Phillips 28:04

floating penis.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:06

It's got all the fields. It's got Richard Dreyfus, you know, exactly the clip you're talking about. It's got the perfect Christopher Lloyd.

Bob Phillips 28:17

Is Richard Dreyfus playing a super type guy who comes in and let me tell you what's

Jeff Dwoskin 28:23

he's like, just in the very beginning. The earth is disrupted underneath him. And so he's just like in a fishing boat, but he's also kind of singing. Show me the way to go home. And, and then he gets killed. Like he's dead within the first five minutes. Okay.

Ron Lippitt 28:40

Let me show you the creme de la creme.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:44

I can't even I can't even imagine the money. Christopher Lloyd and Richard Dreyfus gave I bet they were on there for one day and walked off and probably made a fortune. But these are the type of movies that can go so bad. And this movie was done great. And just to show you like when they eventually went and made the sequel to this one. Yeah,

Ron Lippitt 29:07

I feel like I feel like there are versions of this to your point, Jeff that do go horribly wrong. Like I like I'm looking directly at like, Snakes on a Plane or you know, although I'm Anaconda Anaconda.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:23

I thought I kinda was good

Ron Lippitt 29:25

Snakes on a Plane I think actually made money. There's a

Bob Phillips 29:27

new version of that beast, you know, with Idris Elba? Yeah, that's another one trapped in a car and Alliance covenant. Well, I think they made that it's called coup, Joe.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:38

It's kind of curves out stupid.

Ron Lippitt 29:39

Okay. You know, listen, the form of the formula works as long as it works, you know, and this sounds like this is perfectly done. Sounds like it made a bunch of money so good for them

Jeff Dwoskin 29:50

for all the shark movies that got remade after jaws. Still right.

Bob Phillips 29:58

Richard Harris was in that wasn't he? I think so in between between blackout drunk periods he meant movie Good lord.

Howard Rosner 30:08

No distress signal

Jeff Dwoskin 30:10

had been sent. I always forget to put that I always forget. That's my favorite. That's my favorite

Howard Rosner 30:15

line. He was so drunk filming those scenes. They had to roll him on like, like Hannibal Lecter Dolly. Bernie's

Jeff Dwoskin 30:29

All right, what a fun episode Parana 3d The champion Anchorman wake up Ron Burgundy. That's a lot that's a lot. There's even more on our YouTube channel add on over there typing classic conversations Jeff Dwoskin show is like 89 Plus episodes 89 hours of TV binge watching suggestion conversations you can just dive into in the bonus episodes in this stream. I think we've I think we've delivered like 96 suggestions. That's crazy. Whoa, all right. Well, anyway, anchor man wake up Ron Burgundy, the champion. Prior to 3d You have a lot of homework. go plop yourself on your favorite spot of the couch, grab the remote, cross your own streams, and we'll see you next time.

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