#142 Stuart Pankin is Not Necessarily Delivering the News about Dinosaurs

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All right, Fred, thank you so much for that amazing introduction. You get the show going each and every week, and this week was no exception. Welcome, everybody to Episode 142 of classic conversations. As always, I am your host, Jeff Dwoskin. Great to have you back for another classic episode of Classic conversations that radically writes itself, doesn't it? It does. I have an amazing guest for you today. I cannot wait to share with you my conversation with the legendary Stuart Pankin. That's right, Earl Sinclair from dinosaurs. Bob Charles from HBOs award winning series, not necessarily the news, loved him and Curb Your Enthusiasm, honey, we shrunk ourselves and so much more. Oh my goodness. An amazing conversation with Stuart Pankin is coming up in just a few minutes.

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Jeff Dwoskin 3:55

I can dream what's going on?

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Jeff Dwoskin 4:00

I love exciting news. Do tell.

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It is our show pandemic Pillow Talk is being considered for an Emmy nomination. It's on the ballot and the voting is on Monday night ends on Monday, Monday night. They're voting right now. But it's up for a possibility of a nomination.

Jeff Dwoskin 4:19

That's incredible. I don't think I can vote but in my heart I'm voting

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free to in my heart I got voted like a million times. But

Jeff Dwoskin 4:28

did you find out like what is it mid July where they announced the Emmys? Is that when you would find out? That's a

Summer Moore 4:33

great question. I haven't gotten past Monday. So I know it's a while which is kind of surprising to me because I would think it's like we know you know they count the ballots and but no it's while I'm it's for outstanding short form comedy series, which is like one of the categories that you can get in the stuff into but of course you're competing against the studio network stuff too. So that's where you're at a little bit of a disadvantage or a

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lot I should say well you got Eric Roberts so we do

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so, Robert but so do other projects.

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Everyone's got everyone is your jack Roberts in there. He's in quite a few. And the nominees are Eric Roberts, Eric Roberts. And that's so exciting. I I'm gonna I'm crossing my fingers for you and whatever else I can cross I'll do that as well. It's always great to hear awesome things happening for awesome people. You deserve the best summer

Summer Moore 5:28

think it's the first time this is like ever been the E word has ever been in my mouth. I mean, like from this perspective, like of all the projects just never we basically got some feedback that was like I think you really got a good shot of people who are in the Television Academy so it was like really like rally we were really surprised but yeah, we're really excited. It's been a lot of hard work to get the word out though. So

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All right, well, without further ado, Stuart Pankin is coming up right now loved him in Fatal Attraction. Not necessarily the news, dinosaurs, honey, we shrunk ourselves Curb Your Enthusiasm. The list goes on and on. But enough entropy. Enjoy.

Jeff Dwoskin 8:07

Alright everyone, I want to welcome to the show, beloved actor, star of stage and both small and big screen. You loved him and not necessarily the news, dinosaurs Fatal Attraction and a million other things. Welcome to the show, Stuart. Thanks. Hey.

Stuart Pankin 8:26

Nice to be here.

Jeff Dwoskin 8:27

Good to have you. It's a joy to speak with you. I I'm a big fan of not necessarily the news. Me too. I know. I know. You were awesome in it. It was funny because I two of the original writers on the show, Mike Reese and Al gene. Yeah, whatever happened to them? I don't know. I don't know. They they faded into obscurity. But it was funny because they were both they were both on the podcast and I would bring up none. So the news and I think I don't know it was one or both. They both had the same reaction. Like are you just saying that because you read it? I'm like, No, I love that show.

Stuart Pankin 9:02

Those guys didn't love not the news didn't like working on

Jeff Dwoskin 9:05

it. Maybe they didn't think it'd be realize how old I was or something like that. And that I had actually really seen it.

Stuart Pankin 9:11

Talking about the multi award winning show. I know you know, you gotta love it, they have to do it. You know, I know they did stuff like the you know, the chips, games and all that other little, you know, piddly stuff and not the news that's that's the apex maybe that's the jewel in the crown

Jeff Dwoskin 9:26

no funniest shows HBO has ever produced I think they just were calling me out from just reading off IMDb or something like that. They were just testing me but it was your name that I said nah nah, Stuart bank a big fan. And what did they say to that? They I think I just once they kind of realized I was real deal and then that I think it all went smooth from there but Oh good. Good, good. They're very talented, amazing set of writers Conan was in that writing group

Stuart Pankin 9:54

for a while wrote some great jokes. Very cool. Very cool.

Jeff Dwoskin 9:57

Alright so well before not necessarily Big news. What led you to that? Like what? What was little Stuart Panchen like at home growing up as like, you know, pre remnants of posts? Like what it where was it that you decided acting and theater and all that was for you

Stuart Pankin 10:15

is a pretty open ended question. You got a few hours. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Well the thing is when I was a kid, I always enjoyed dancing around and making funny stuff with my family dinners and stuff. hamming it up. As we used to say, when I got to college, I was going to be psychology nature. And then but something as I always say, when I took that long walk across the dark, cold campus to go to the audition for the first play. As a freshman, I knew I was hooked. I knew I wanted to be an actor. They knew Baker who was my director, my teacher and my became my dear friend until he died was so inspiring. And you know, you wanted to work with him. So I did every possible theatrical thing I couldn't college. And that's what did it to me. I mean, and then I, after college, I applied and got into Columbia Graduate School and studied more there and then, you know, just got out in the world try to get work. But that's what happened. I mean, it was college really kicked me off to be an actor.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:11

It certainly at certain point, when you're deciding to be an actor, do you decide I'm going stage or I'm going for TV or movies?

Stuart Pankin 11:20

Or no. In the east when I was at Columbia, it was all stage. I mean, it was you know, I worked for a year at Lincoln Center. I worked for two summers at the Shakespeare Festival you know, did some off Broadway and off off Broadway things little black box theatres, as we call them, you know, down in the village plays I don't I remember doing that don't remember anything about I mean, you did theater. That's what you love. People in New York music show but auditions for plays, not knowing what the play was read for it. Then when you got to then you got the job. You got that you finally read the script and you didn't care you just one of the job television. I never did any film work of any I was an extra in a in a movie called next step Greenwich Village, which is a wonderful movie. That's an interesting story, too. I mean, I was so curious, I used to sneak down from the extra holding room to the set to see what was going on. You know what's going on behind the camera. I've never seen it. I've never seen a movie set before. I never saw walls move, you know, lights and things in the background with chimneys that actually smoke but you're on a set. And when it was fascinating. It was just fascinating. And they rewarded me by giving me a live, you know, the movie. So they bumped me up from, you know, an extra two a day player one day, but I never did anything, you know, in film to speak of in in New York, in fact that the ceiling goes through my mind is when you were in New York, you always say how do I get to California? How do I get to Hollywood? How do I get to tell this movie? Now when you're in television or movies? Get back to New York? How do I get back into the theater? How can I do plays? Because plays you know, I mean, I worked my wife helped form a summer Theatre in Latrobe, Pennsylvania outside of Pittsburgh connected with her college. And it eventually turned into really good equity company. I worked there for years with her and a bunch of great actors. So in the east, the theater was the thing to do getting out to California if you're interested. And I'm sure you are because you're just making me get up in the morning to talk to you. I got I did a show called Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat was the first New York production of that play that's going on to be you know, fairly successful. Agents saw me in that and that's how I got an audition for and got the job for the San Pedro beach bones in California, which was Aaron spelling's first and last attempt an hour long comedy, and that's what got me out here. You know, we kept our apartment in New York for years, they can go back neither this California stuff like that. I stayed. And I just started looking for work and then got pretty good at it.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:41

You created some of the roles Rubin and Queen Victoria. Is that right?

Stuart Pankin 13:46

Ruben? Yes. Joseph really very strict about that about the 12 tribes of Israel and and Rubin was the oldest brother and I played him and also there was a little bit where Queen Victoria you know, shows up in the audience dressed in full regalia. You don't pool tools will do all this silly stuff. So yes, I did create that in in this country. I mean, they did it anyway. But in America, yeah. You're looking at the creator of Queen Victoria.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:15

I saw that in. In Detroit, Joseph. Yeah, with Donnie azmin. Oh, no, that was not my production. No, no, not your production by me. But I've seen the flight. I've seen the play. I'm saying I missed your production. Likely because I may not have been born.

Stuart Pankin 14:34

You could have done it in vitro.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:37

I regret to inform I will not be in attendance. So do you there's a certain thrill right. I mean, I do stand up comedy so but there's a certain thrill to doing stage I would imagine versus TV or movies because the immediate reaction I mean, do you still crave that you love that? Would you

Stuart Pankin 14:56

Okay, yeah, it's my absolute first love and the difference At some stage and film, for the most part, I mean is night and day, the yin and yang, the alpha the Omega, I'll come up with some work later. Yeah, immediate reaction, the ability on stage to, to rehearse, something's been delivered, don't worry about it. It's just I'm a drug dealer. And that's one of my mules. So don't worry about that. But the the option in play, to rehearse and change, and even as you're performing realize stuff and change every night is extremely excited. I mean, there's, there's a story of Oh Caldwell, who won a Tony Award for a play, I forget, she came to Columbia to talk, she won a Tony Award. And the last night of the last production, she walked offstage and said, the stage manager, I finally figured out how to play that scene. So that's the beauty of the theater and film and television. Yeah, you know, if you're in a big budget movie, probably get some rehearsal time. I mean, I did a movie called scavenger hunt. And we did that in Boston. And we were there a week doing some stuff. And there are, you know, there were big budget movies that we rehearse a month, but usually, you know, character actors and etc, you come in as a guest spot, and you know, if they talk to you, you're lucky and you do your job and go home, you know, even on a movie, if you're there, if you're lucky enough to be there for a long period of time, you don't get a lot of rehearsal, you get to make a lot of friends. But you don't get a lot of rehearsal. And you just got to come in with the with the goods, you know, you have to, there's just too many good actors out there. So when you audition for stuff, you've got to be confident that you got it. And then she can get the job, you walk into that room knowing I'm here to solve your problem. That's what I want to do. I want to make you happy. Because you know, you're not going to get a lot of them. They're gonna have a lot of choices. And they're going to pick the guy that strikes them right away. Yeah, that's the big difference between theater and film for me,

Jeff Dwoskin 16:45

I love it. I mean, I love like being on stage when I'm doing stand up comedy. And it's hard to do. And it's like, well, it's yeah, it's but it's, but it's the same kind of idea where you do the same joke so many times, and you can keep refining it. It's the same. I love that sort of, I finally figured it out. It's like, sometimes that's how you can figure it out. You're like, you're you. Yeah, alright, so you do the San Pedro bombs and decide why we're gonna pick that up, or we're gonna add beach to it.

Stuart Pankin 17:14

That's exactly right. The bomb was was that was the pilot. And we were actually called back to reshoot it, Aaron Spelling actually directed the reshoots of that show, because he really wanted it to go. And there was a lot of reasons that it didn't go, which are, you know, complicated had to do with timing and football and grunion. We're running up in San Francisco. I mean, there's a lot of things plus the fact that it might not have been the greatest show ever. But yeah, I did that.

Jeff Dwoskin 17:38

I haven't seen it. But I did. I found when I clicked on YouTube, I watch like, there was like, 10 minutes of it. Yeah, it was like the opening and like, you guys, were just securing your boat. You've just paying off a loan for a boat, I assume as is where it goes. So you mentioned like you you at came in and out of many different shows was like Barney Miller or BJ and the bear. You know, like a Brady girls get married? When when you like, go in and out of these, like, which ones did you feel? Are there any of them where you kind of clicked and bonded, you're like, Oh, this is nice. And you know, they probably remember me now. Well,

Stuart Pankin 18:13

the Brady girls was not one of them. Although Lloyd Schwartz WHO IS WHO direction that who got me the job. He did a movie later called one dozen, which was the most fun I've ever had, that nobody's ever seen the movie. Nobody's ever heard that movie. It was the most fun I've ever had on the set, because people were great. So that was an advantage of that. But as far as clicking and bonding, and remembering, well, not necessarily the movies, we're friends to this day, that was worth 30 more years. So

Jeff Dwoskin 18:37

that was your show. That was your show, though.

Stuart Pankin 18:39

Yeah, that was a show. Yeah, but same attraction. I mean, that was a great show to do. San Pedro beach bumps was my first showing thing it was it was magic. Every every moment was new, you know, looking at a camera that's new, looking at a set that's new, but the action cut. That's all that's you know, it was all exciting, depending on I mean, no less than 10 shows. But it was my introduction to movies. And it was all wondrous. It was just, it was great.

Jeff Dwoskin 19:06

Which of the shows that you guested on today? Like you're like, I can't wait to get out of here.

Stuart Pankin 19:11

You know, something? That's an interesting question. None of them. There's no show that I've ever done. There was some actors that I didn't mind. You know, none we can meet again, but there was no show everything that I said, Oh, geez, I can't just do it. I mean, there were a lot of mediocre experiences, like I said, as a guest, but you go on and you're invisible. I mean, they're gonna they're gonna pay kick to the stars, which they should like Superman. I did a couple of Superman and, you know, and became good friends with John Ritter. Because of those shows. We also shared a school so I knew him there. But that was, that was a terrific experience. And then they speak to John they did a show called three's a crowd as opposed to Three's Company was a sequence. I don't know how long it lasted but I was going to be did a guest spot on that loved it and I was going to be a regular on that show. But the show was canceled, so I didn't get a chance to do that same thing with a space Sam Kinison had a sitcom years ago and I was going to be irregular on that after being a guest and he died so that didn't have to be there are memorable things in the sitcom guest spot world and then if when you get to do a pilot or you get to do not a pilot they sometimes go they sometimes don't. And you run recurring carts which which are nice did a bunch of those, I don't tell you their own experience.

Jeff Dwoskin 20:28

That's good to hear. I was just I was just curious. From what you said, I couldn't tell if some are better than others or just you know, experiences some are better than better than Yeah, because it's gonna be weird. I talked about this with a lot of folks is like where they you go away and I can I talk to Eric Kramer, he goes into cheers. He's like when it's a pretty established show, you know, or somebody can pick on friends and you know, so it's like, it's interesting when you step into something that is pretty iconic, and all the people are established and you're just kind of in and out. I have a couple of questions I do want to give all due to not necessarily the news and dinosaurs but a few other things of note just to cover before the Xenon films, but specifically the first one Xenon girl, the 21st century. I believe that's the one that Kenny Johnson. I had Kenny on the show, we did not talk about xenon, how was it working with especially in like a kind of a sci fi type thing? Like someone who is so iconic? It's just above that guy. Kenny? Yeah,

Stuart Pankin 21:31

we did. To give a brief background. We did three. We did the first one in Vancouver with Ken second one in New Zealand with I think Manny Coto did the second one. He was now a big producer. And the third one we did in South Africa, and I don't know the director. So but yeah, working in working on that first scene on was swept, you know, so it's almost well, you understand when an actor gets it, it's, well, now the only problem was that those first two Xena movies were buyouts, which if you don't know what that is, they give you a salary. They give you a money, and that's no residuals. And the last one, it was under sag AFTRA, and they, we got residuals. But the first one, it was, I don't remember a lot about remember the hotels, said, You know, I remember driving around with Ken, you know, looking at stuff and that was it was a long time

Jeff Dwoskin 22:16

ago. Yeah. And then you worked with Raven Simone, you you ended up you did some that so ravens and the one thing that I thought was funny, because I watched us a little bit of it, because I just wanted to get a feel for President Chelsea Clinton was in the beginning. I was the Xena, the President of the United States. Is Chelsea Clinton. i This one I bet you do have very fond memories of let's talk about Curb Your Enthusiasm. Oh, yeah, that's great. Yeah. So yeah,

Stuart Pankin 22:44

that was I went in, I auditioned for it, I got it. And it was, it's a dream job for an actor because you don't have to memorize lines. And if you have any kind of improv chops, then you're very comfortable. They're very protective on that show. They don't let you see even the storyline, you know, you ask an ad or the you know, what's it about? What am I couldn't resist? They'll tell you on the set. I mean, it was that kind of stuff. And you get on the set with with Larry and they sort of tell you what needs to be said, you know, they know you know who you are, but it needs to, you know, and you know that you got to get from point A to point B and and then you just go with it. And if you say something wrong, they'll say, No, you got to get to you got to get the information that the camel died in the desert. Okay, so Larry, the camel died in the desert. And then we all went to Cairo. No, you can't say Cairo because of it, you know, and that's the way that show went. And he was all improvised and led by the director and led by Larry as to what you had to say and what needed to be said. It was great. It was it was fun. I did it. I don't know if I did it the same time but I ended up in two episodes, which is a ski lift as I recall was one of the one of the more popular ones a girl Iris bear. I think she played my daughter very talented actress and, and the ski lift was great. And then I think I did the Chinese booking and I had a scene Korean Korean bookie Thank you. I don't want to culturally appropriate anything incorrectly. Yeah, it was great. I mean, it was a very interesting different for an actor. It's totally that kind of deal is a is a different experience. I mean, I remember said, Larry was talking to a bunch of people, Jeff Garlin was there. And he said to Jeff, it was very exciting. So Jeff, jump in anytime you want to. And he said, This is all sweet. This is all sugar. I'm just sitting here listening. I mean, it's that kind of a set. You know, that's great. It was a terrific experience different and worthwhile.

Jeff Dwoskin 24:27

Yeah, I was kind of rewatching I like to rewatch stuff just because you got the memories and then just kind of fill them in. But you were you play an Orthodox Jew who is the head of the kidney consortium

Stuart Pankin 24:37

Consortium. Everybody thinks I tried to wrap up but I did not

Jeff Dwoskin 24:40

Orthodox Jew and then Larry pretends to be very orthodox to kind of get a good side to get a kidney for Richard Lewis.

Stuart Pankin 24:49

That's exactly right. And I eventually gave it to him. I think I think he wore me down. He brought me to a ski lodge and sweet talk me and

Jeff Dwoskin 24:57

oh no, it didn't work out because it intimidates on typical curb fashion, you gave it to him. But then your daughter and ham the person who played your daughter and Ham was stuck on a ski lift sunset was happening. She had to jump off this

Stuart Pankin 25:12

ski lift. Because you didn't want to be alone with a man after dark. Yes. And then that's what the Korean bookie was he came to say what the hell's going on? And I said, you know, I'll use I'm gonna do what I want with the money that you gave me and I don't have to die. I don't owe you any Yeah, I remember that was great.

Jeff Dwoskin 25:26

It's fine. Like you said, though, the ski lift voted by variety. And this was done around a time there was about 100 episodes. The number four best Curb Your Enthusiasm, episode.

Stuart Pankin 25:38

Wow, that's great to know. That's great to know. I wouldn't know what the first three are. Because then I'm going to deal with those.

Jeff Dwoskin 25:43

I wish I'd written. Another ranking put you in the top 15 That particular episodes I would definitely is considered one of the most favored episodes. That's great.

Stuart Pankin 25:54

That's good to hear. Thanks.

Jeff Dwoskin 25:55

So good for you. And Larry trying to speak here but were you really speaking Hebrew? You both faking it? No comment. Because Larry pretending to speak Hebrew when you would speak Hebrew to him was one of the funniest

Stuart Pankin 26:08

I spoke a few few words. But a lot of it was not real. No comment. Or as we're saying, yes.

Jeff Dwoskin 26:18

But hope don't get on a second I me. All right. Oh, I saw you were on for your love. I had DD Pfeiffer on the show. I love that sitcom. When it was great. Yeah, I had a crush it

Stuart Pankin 26:29

was it was a I turned out to be a recurring character. And those guys were great and continue. James was George James and George and I became friends after that. He used to hang out occasionally. No, that was great. I mean, it'd be because it became recurring. You know, that's, that's an actor's dream. You do a guest spot and all of a sudden as they come back, I say just you know, clear the past. Sweep the liens on there.

Jeff Dwoskin 26:51

Okay, awesome. All right. So let's talk about let's talk about not necessarily the news about not necessarily the news ran on HBO. 1982 To 1990 I think you're you're with it, maybe not the last year but otherwise,

Stuart Pankin 27:07

at 82 three a 23456. A two two Ada was our cast was

Jeff Dwoskin 27:12

our guys. This is based on a BBC show as many shows are not the Nine O'Clock News with Rowan Atkinson and Pamela.

Stuart Pankin 27:23

Interesting. I didn't know that. Hey, good thing. You're here. I got very good thing on here. All right. We did.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:30

Fill in Yeah, and all the trivia that's magic. All right. So not necessarily the news sketch comedy interspersed with commercial parodies all that kind of good stuff. How did they pitch you on this? This was like the very beginning of HBO doing their own original material, right?

Stuart Pankin 27:43

Got to go back at the time. Cable General Cable was about you should pardon the expression 29% penetration in the country and pay cable, Showtime, HBO, whatever entities were forming and growing their time was less. So that's that background. Now how it happened for me if you're interested, just stop me if you're not. I auditioned for strangely enough. The second page of each box in that audition was a guy named Michael Jacobs, who is who became a very successful producer writer. He remembered me when he was doing a show called note. So Brady, which lasted five shows. And he asked me to do that, and I did on that show was a writer named Ron Richards, who was working for not net who became a writer and not necessarily news I ran into him might have been luck. Maybe they would have pursued me. I don't know. I ran into him to screen and he said you want to do a cable show? Not necessarily as it's what's cable? Not necessarily what's that? You know? I said yeah, like every actor Oh, I'll read for anything. So I auditioned. And I got it. And in the beginning, it was guerrilla television. I mean, offers dressing room was the men's room at the show station in Simi Valley. And they asked us to buy gas from the show station so we could stay at a men's room where the makeup stuff was set up. But the girls you know, we Nancy Severinsen was our location manager dockside Watson's daughter great lady great man I guess they didn't want to pay for I guess it cost to pay for permits to shoot so she would still locations and the girls we were in the mountains and the girls were changing clothes behind open doors, you know, can be behind rocks and stuff. And it was it was real. I mean, I remember being called 530 Morning putting a 12 being called 530 The next morning and I said to the producer I can't do this. I'm gonna die. So things got a little better than that. We've got a some sort of a Winnebago thing and then the show became popular and things started become it wasn't like a wonder that certainly was what said oh never mind is just to look to the point where it became you know, extremely popular in the in the in the cable world. And it was life changing a COURAGING for me to do that show. So I'm I got a number of good things to say about that. And we're still not we're still friends. What actors are left. The great Danny Breen passed away a while ago but Mitch Lawrence Danny Eddie Blum. We're still you know, good friends.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:57

That's awesome. I was it was funny as I was kind of looking at it. I was like, oh, Mitch Lawrence, I loved him and Eddie and the cruisers and then I go to look, I'm like, Wait, man, he wasn't in that movie. I realize he has a twin isn't identical twin brother.

Stuart Pankin 30:11

They're both great guys. Mitchie Mitchie is, is a spectacular guy. I know Mitch, better than I work with that for a little bit. But Mitch, you know, he's one of my favorite human beings. He's great guy.

Jeff Dwoskin 30:21

Rich Hall. What was your really rich? Oh, why rich? How was the only one in the cast that played himself? Yeah,

Stuart Pankin 30:28

yeah, we could have stayed by himself. You know, he did his own thing, wrote his own material. He performed his own material. So we didn't really I mean, we obviously saw each other and bumped into each other in the hall. But I don't think I ever did a scene with rich I don't think any of the cast that I can remember. But you know, six years so who knows, did a scene of any length reports with rich and he was basically his own man, Ron Richards, from what I understand, actually created snippets. And then rich took it and ran with it and became the sleeveless guy. And that's what made him so popular. But yeah, Rich was a funny guy, but I think he's in England now. But we never really nobody really hung out. I think he had leprosy.

Jeff Dwoskin 31:06

So how did you guys feel when he went to Saturday live and then came back?

Stuart Pankin 31:10

You know, so I'm, I don't know that. I didn't realize that he went to Saturday Night Live and then came back. I didn't I didn't have any knowledge. Okay, back with our shows ad today, da Yeah, he

Jeff Dwoskin 31:20

was. He was an ad for he did a season on Saturday Night Live, and then came back and then eventually came back full time.

Stuart Pankin 31:29

No memory of that. No memories. That's how well that's how we cut.

Jeff Dwoskin 31:33

It sounds like the whole cast was pretty tight. And then there was rich Hall. Well, yeah.

Stuart Pankin 31:38

I mean, that's just the way it is. I think it was his choice. I mean, he then he said to them, I'm not a sketch sketch guy. I'll do my own sketches. And he did. He did a few sketches, but mostly sat and talked about snake Lutz and about he came up with a character, you know, that I do is a radio guy. And that's the end of the story. That's the story. You know, he did that guy. I don't know who it is.

Jeff Dwoskin 32:01

Harvey Harvey,

Stuart Pankin 32:02

he did fall, Harvey, that Thank you. You're very bright. Yeah, he did that. But he stayed by himself. I mean, you know, there's not much more to say about that. I mean, we never slept together. So it became a totally platonic relationship.

Jeff Dwoskin 32:15

Interesting. Not surprising, but definitely interesting. So something was it was it irritating, then it's neglects was like such a popular thing that explode from the show, because that was his and he was like, not really.

Stuart Pankin 32:28

And he was making money from it books. Back and yeah, it wasn't, I don't think it was, you know, swirling through our brains and Oh, Jesus Christ, if we could catch up on some of that, but no, I don't think so. I mean, I hope to share the money with Ron Richards because I think Ron was the guy who created the idea of snake woods. So I hope that Ron got some some benefit out of that. But the rest of us, you know, we didn't share any money from him for the for the work that I got, because I'm gonna share the news. So he didn't have to share anything with me.

Jeff Dwoskin 32:56

So just kind of put it in perspective in 1982. When the show debuted, according to the information I found there were 10 million subscribers to HBO. And then today, there's somewhere between 73 and 80 million. Wow. But 10 million.

Stuart Pankin 33:16

That's interesting. Why not? Well, yeah,

Jeff Dwoskin 33:18

source internet, so.

Stuart Pankin 33:21

Oh, what do you gotta believe source internet? I gotta call it.

Jeff Dwoskin 33:24

So it's, here's a couple tidbits. The show is considered an inspiration and predecessor to future news, satirical programs, a daily show The Colbert Report, and Last Week Tonight, among others.

Stuart Pankin 33:37

Yeah, people say that a lot. That's great. That's great.

Jeff Dwoskin 33:40

You walked so they could run

Stuart Pankin 33:44

I will I always was disappointed that Conan when he had a show didn't have a not necessarily news for union to bring they bring us all onto his show and talk to him.

Jeff Dwoskin 33:53

Have you guys ever gotten together and No, no, I've you and Cass and I you guys are set our friends is any like Jimmy Kimmel. Anyone like call it like anyone ever brought you guys together just as

Stuart Pankin 34:03

No, no, the only thing we got together with mean people always say you're gonna do a reunion show, you know? No. And there's a lot of reasons why or do a do another series of unnecessarily. There's a lot of reasons that that's not going to happen mostly because it'd be too expensive. The writers union is real strong, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, you don't have to know that the only time we got together after the show is when the new show was on with Tom Fox and Annabelle gurwitch. The old cast came back as a guest group on that show. And that's the last time we ever got together work together. Socially, we whenever Mitch is in town or Andy's around, we see each other as often as we can when Danny was alive, you know, we'd had lunch and blah, blah, blah. So but as far as working the new version of of not the news was the last time we all got together to work as opposed with the exception of God rested sweet. So again, his funeral when he came in and everybody came, and we saw each other there, but that's it.

Jeff Dwoskin 34:56

It's not on HBO max. So it's HBO the stream Now, but there are some episodes on YouTube.

Stuart Pankin 35:05

Yeah, there's a lot of actually there are a lot of clips that episodes on YouTube. Sometimes I watch them just to remember what the hell's going on.

Jeff Dwoskin 35:13

Really, really.

Stuart Pankin 35:15

I mean, I don't sit down and watch all episodes but you know if I'm, if I need a scene or something if I want to grab a scene off the computer, you know, look at some of my old stuff and and if not necessarily muses on Oh, look at the sketch it too, is so wrong, Jeff, Is that so wrong as me?

Jeff Dwoskin 35:29

No, I think it's great. I mean, it's like watching home movies, right? I mean, it's like you just well,

Stuart Pankin 35:35

and also it reminds you of the past and a positive. Just speaking of looking at old stuff. I remember running into Pat Harrington, again, wonderful actor at an audition. And he said to me, You know what I do before I walk into that audition, I look at my resume and remind myself, you know, what I've done and how successful I've been and how good I could be, you know, to boost yourself up. And sometimes looking at your old stuff you say to yourself, you know, I wasn't, you know, somebody called me for an audition or a job. Okay,

Jeff Dwoskin 36:03

you got chops, I got chops. The interesting thing watching a lot of it holds up, I was laughing just as much as I remember watching it the first time. And what struck me also is it was like, somehow, whoever wrote it, edit it, put it together. It's just funny. Like, what I mean by that is like was Saturday live in a five minute skit? It's not five minutes of funny, like everything, and not necessarily the news segment really was either just helping it be about to be funny or was just funny, and then you cut away like there was no like, extra. It was it was great. That's very,

Stuart Pankin 36:39

that's very perceptive. You know, you're actually those types of live sketches go on forever, not the news. It was always, you know, brevity is the soul of wit as somebody said, yeah, there was shorter commercials where we're short, the sketches for the most part that you came in, bang premise bang joke, bang out, you know, that's what happened

Jeff Dwoskin 36:59

when I caught of you. Mr. T's Emporium, which was pretty funny. And, and as I didn't, it didn't feel like it felt like you could probably still do today because it wasn't like you didn't cross any weird lines. Even though you were Mr. T, it was still appropriate. And it was just it was just so funny. I was like, so

Stuart Pankin 37:19

we think about not the news is that we have the option being on cable to do to curse, you know, the be off color to do nudity. We never did that. You know, we never they never the writers, producers never opted for that way to go. It was always except for the fact kids might not understand the political ramifications of or the parodies. It was always you know, kind of kind of fat. If you want to say family oriented. I mean, it was family, families could watch the show. Without parents. It was it was fun for the whole family.

Jeff Dwoskin 37:50

It was it's good nature, just really funny. And it's I definitely the way I had forgotten like how funny it was like taking the real clips and dubbing them and

Stuart Pankin 38:00

that's another thing when we use real clips, real people, they never put words in the mouths of the real people. They always produce perform the clips as written, I used to go they used to look at ABC News sheet. I mean, the unedited news feed and pull stuff off, which is why the you get some very funny stuff, but they never put words in the mouth. I mean, that's if I interviewed Henry Kissinger, that's what Henry Kissinger was, was saying. And then they wrote around that to make that funny. So that was, you know, it was I think it's admirable. I mean, it's easy to put words in people's mouths. That's, you know, that's cheap. It's easy.

Jeff Dwoskin 38:31

Well, right now humor is in making what they actually said, changing the context of that based on the question or something like that to make that fun. My favorite

Stuart Pankin 38:40

sketches was Henry Kissinger, they they he was talking about political something, but they made him look like he was pitching a script to a producer. I was a producer, and you know, well, it's about this man who kept Henry come on him. He's, you know, speeded up. I don't gotta gotta get executed, but they took exactly what you said. They don't so round what he actually said to make it funny.

Jeff Dwoskin 39:02

And then just to round this off, is I found an article Screen Rant. Screen Rant is an online publication 10 Hilarious sketch comedies you'd probably forgotten about and it listed off you and not necessarily the news was number one, but this is the list. This one I did write down the list so you don't have this is the state Ben Stiller Show. The day today. Tracy Ullman Show In Living Color, Mr. Show, Upright Citizens Brigade, the Chris Rock Show and Viva variety. I mean to put you number one on that list, but um, that's a heck of a list. That's

Stuart Pankin 39:39

really good. You can't you wouldn't want to send me that. Would you? Yeah, of course. I'll send you my email. You have my email.

Jeff Dwoskin 39:47

I have your email. Yeah, we're best friends. Stuart. We're pBPs when we talk about dinosaurs, what do you get? What do you get recognized are two people call you out for More or all Sinclair or Bob Charles?

Stuart Pankin 40:02

Well before the pandemic, you know, probably if I was wandering around some city would be, you know, Bob Charles or the Disney stuff, the Ravens stuff the Xena and stuff because kids kids, you know, they remember that nowadays it's dinosaurs during the pandemic, and I'm not bragging because it's me because it's the show and they just happen to be able to get in touch with me I was sent Camco boxes, is that what they call Funko Funko boxes? I think so. You know what, there, I was getting two to four requests for autographs pictures or those boxes a day during the pandemic for weeks a gay and it wasn't like I said, it's not necessarily because of me. But the show having come down on Disney plus became popular, and people were watching with their families as they were quarantined and sequestered. So yeah, dinosaurs is actually was in a restaurant once and I'm talking a noisy restaurant and a guy came over to me and said, Are you the voice of Earl Sinclair? Did you know that this is what I'm a sound editor. And I recognize voices. That's the only time but somebody said oh, I know that was funny. But yeah, dinosaurs although nobody's gonna recognize what the street because dinosaurs, but they do know the show. They send me information about that.

Jeff Dwoskin 41:15

Right? Disney plus just just released it of what it was like a year or so ago. So it's one of those shows. It was only on from 91 to 94. So right only like four seasons. Yeah. But it's like there's there's a million shows that we're on for four seasons only or even a million shows that run for more than four seasons that nobody has any recollection of whatsoever. Yeah, but for some reason, dinosaurs, it just stayed in everyone's head. I mean, there's all the time I'll be like, not that Mama, you know, I mean, it's like I was a horrible Kevin clashed. But the politics when you were kind of starting to do this, like Did you recognize like, Oh, this is kind of special. I know. It was Jim Henson and I Henson productions and all that kind of stuff but

Stuart Pankin 42:00

try to drop a name of what we feel attraction, we'll do a trailer attraction. Nobody was going to become the kind of the movie became, you know, you didn't do the movie. Same thing with dinosaurs. We did die. We knew it was it looked great. I mean, it was the most expensive half hour television maybe even to this day that it was ever on television. And we used to but to know that it was going to be as popular No, no, I mean, not until guys used to say you know not to mama and you know, Harley I'm old. I mean, when that stuff started happening to heavy cheeses people are people are watching the show. You know, and most a lot of people will talk about the end the last episode that seems to be that seems to be a fun to people mentioned when they're talking dinosaurs. You know what I'm talking about

Jeff Dwoskin 42:42

when I am prepared to have a full conversation. On the very last episode, you have a whole you had who I'm ready to talk to you about wax fruit. Of course, you need a wax fruit for factory wax fruit doesn't grow on trees, you know,

Stuart Pankin 42:54

you know, a hell of a lot more. Watched a little bit of gone. I don't remember how to stuff you do. Yeah. But dinosaurs. It was, as I used to say, and I say all the time. It's a job that I love having and it's very hard to do, because you're in a booth for, you know, six, eight hours doing these replacing the puppet movements, the mouth movements of the puppets. Here's my puppeteer. My handsome puppeteer was going like this. He talked like guess he was sitting back, said Mack Wilson. So obviously they didn't want that. So they they hired actors to replace that. But I got I got the job before we did before you know they produced it before they started production, obviously.

Jeff Dwoskin 43:31

Did you when you do a voice? It's voice acting. Did you still get to know the rest of the cast? Like the lake right, Jessica Walter and Sally Struthers? Like were you guys there? Do you do like voices individually? Or how does that?

Stuart Pankin 43:44

No? Well, in the beginning, we used to sit around the table and read the script. We did that for two or three weeks. And then they realized we didn't really have to do that because everybody worked alone. And then you basically were relegated to what the puppeteers gave you and what the content of the script was. So I run into Sally, Jessica and I became friends the great Jessica was was she's she's, she was the best and but as far as the other people Samak Mary who played Roy in the show, he became a friend. We play golf all the time to eat, to jump back come the guy to replace me. And it's not necessarily that it was we became friends. We played back golf buddies. But no, we didn't. We didn't hang out a lot. It was all individual. We always went into the booth alone with our producer Ken rose and traveling. And we did the show that way. And that's the way we did it. And it was it was you know, lonely, intense. But it was funny. I mean, you're right. It was funny. People remembered it. And again, the kids appreciated the puppets and the funny voices and the adults appreciated the political satire. So it was all it was all swell.

Jeff Dwoskin 44:43

Did you know Deva Savelle GABA Savelle Yeah, I interviewed her she said dinosaurs is one of our favorite things she ever did ever.

Stuart Pankin 44:53

Yeah, it's great actually. She she asked me to do it. I did a reach there was a place that they that they wrote it the writer skill when I was she asked me to do that. So I did that. So yeah, I mean, she was she's very talented lady. She liked she liked answers,

Jeff Dwoskin 45:07

right. As I recall, it was one of her favorite things like the SAT everything. Yeah. Good.

Stuart Pankin 45:15

That was amazing. The interesting thing

Jeff Dwoskin 45:17

about the last episode, which I think there's other episodes like this was the fact that you kind of covered some pretty deep things. And like science fiction, you know, where you people go, Oh, well, you know, it's kind of glossed over people don't get it that they're being spoken to in Thai because they are these are just dinosaurs. Right? And global, you're talking about political, right? Just anything political war, drugs, sexuality. I mean, dinosaurs covered all those things. And this is a children's program, right?

Stuart Pankin 45:46

Everything, everything, but they it was probably little children because it wasn't overt. And well, I'll just leave it in overt. I mean, so the kids could appreciate the puppets, like I said, and the adults can appreciate the parents,

Jeff Dwoskin 46:00

right. And this is why Ford is going after Disney now. No, I'm kidding. But the interesting thing about the last episode, it is actually so dark. And as I was watching it, I was like, oh, you know what this is? This is don't look up.

Stuart Pankin 46:16

Ah, interesting. It was stolen from us.

Jeff Dwoskin 46:20

It's stolen from you. It's a you know, it's like a version of that kind of thing, where it's like,

Stuart Pankin 46:25

it's an end of the world thing. Yeah. And I guess the writers would say that they're lucky knowing that the show was ending so that they could write that out. So lots of shows go out and but I think they ended it the way they wanted to end it. And it was kind of, you know, it's a strong word, but it's kind of controversial, because it was so I guess they got some letters from parents saying, Could you tickle those dinosaurs in front of our children? How could you make me explain that the dinosaurs have gone and they love it? You know, I mean, and that's true. And yet it was a suitable appropriate ending for that show. Dinosaurs because if you look around here no more

Jeff Dwoskin 46:59

I thought it was it was so well done it everything that every kind of lesson was trying to teach was so on. So spot on, like to watch that like I'm surprised they don't show that to teach people why you don't destroy ecosystems why you don't like That's how good that episode was like, just to kind of say like, this is what happens when you disrupt nature and you know, businesses do things for the wrong reasons. It was

Stuart Pankin 47:25

what but like you said, it's all things it's, you know, it's vegetarianism, sexuality. sexual harrassment I mean, all those things were sort of lessons but couched in a very funny palatable way. Yeah. And the ending was, I love him. I thought it was very sweet and inevitable, right? I'm sorry. If kids were upset about I really have I mean, that's not the purpose of the show is to protect children. But you know, I mean, the fact is that shows and, you know, and people's favorite characters died, or people favorite characters are never on the TV again, and dinosaurs just ended their own way. Right? It'd

Jeff Dwoskin 48:01

be like if James Cameron changed the end of Titanic because he didn't want to upset people. And the boats fine, everyone's fine.

Stuart Pankin 48:11

I used to do that in Shakespeare's time. They used to be happy endings other tragedies Hamlet lives and Lear lives and Romeo Juliet runaway happy they used to. They used to rewrite them, not dinosaurs. We stick with the truth. Those dinosaurs are great.

Jeff Dwoskin 48:24

You want it real? Come see dinosaurs. So a couple of things about couple of things about dinosaurs is I read Jim Belushi turned down your role. Oh, good. So if you ever see him, thank him. But because of that we were treated to curly Sue.

Stuart Pankin 48:41

That's okay. Because Jim Belushi and I shared a school and he couldn't do a sketch once. And I took over for him and had a good time doing that sketch. So the hell with gymglish.

Jeff Dwoskin 48:50

So boom, and then. So this, I read her all your character often sighs when he walks in a room, and this would allow the person in the costume to have a chance to see where he was going

Stuart Pankin 49:02

to go with the mountain.

Jeff Dwoskin 49:05

And then the characters names are petroleum corporations. Sinclair has BP so that's all funny. And then actually very little merchandise was made for the show, which is a mess. Yeah, I

Stuart Pankin 49:17

think so. I think so. Because

Jeff Dwoskin 49:19

baby, the baby would have been like that was baby Yoda before baby Yoda. Baby Sinclair.

Stuart Pankin 49:25

Well, if they made a baby doll, I think I would have gone off shouts man, I think that people love that.

Jeff Dwoskin 49:32

Yeah, I still love the baby. And then and then a lot of guest voices Sherman Hemsley was irregular by Jason Alexander, Julia Louise drivers and Michael Richards all did a voice but I did not see Jerry Seinfeld's names he had almost a whole cast

Stuart Pankin 49:47

concurred was a big repeating

Jeff Dwoskin 49:49

temporary right Peter not get on already.

Stuart Pankin 49:52

Although he might have done a voice. Yeah, there's a lot actually, you know, to lift up the carpet. I said to the police Just once you know I got a lot of really talented actor friends that would love to do voices and they said, no, no, no, we want celebrities, which was always strange to me because, you know, maybe you recognize voice maybe you didn't. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to make it better. I mean, all those guys did a great job, but I just wanted to give my my friends an opportunity to

Jeff Dwoskin 50:17

work very nice of you. You just need more famous friends. So, honey, we shrunk ourselves. Interesting. The Ric Miranda says final live action raw but also interestingly enough, what I read was it's the first live action direct to video movie.

Stuart Pankin 50:37

Yes, yes. That's that's the that's the truth. Didn't come to me who was Spielberg? You know, cinematographer for years directed and it might have been one of his first directing jobs. And it was indeed the first major video movie speaking about and people recognize me from that too. I mean, they mentioned that cuz that seems to be a popular crowd pleaser. It was it was again cool. So green screen and blue screen and, and special effects. And it was fine. And Rick was Rick was great. I've worked with him before in a movie called Big Bully. He said an admirable person. He gave up his wife died tragically much too young and he gave up the business to be with his kids to be a father to his kids. You can't follow any of that. I mean, that's that's admirable.

Jeff Dwoskin 51:17

No, it's an amazing story. What Rick Maraniss did walking away from everything for his family. very admirable,

Stuart Pankin 51:23

very admirable. And he's a nice guy, man. We had Jack Jackson laughing on that set that went on for a long

Jeff Dwoskin 51:29

time. Mila Kunis, one of her that was one of her very first roles was that movie? Yes, that's

Stuart Pankin 51:34

right. And then I did a series called not necessarily called Nick Fredo. And she was on there too. I guess I worked with her twice. Does she remember me? Does she ever called it? She sent a card? I haven't.

Jeff Dwoskin 51:45

I haven't email into her. So while

Stuart Pankin 51:48

you just covered remember me? And then your

Jeff Dwoskin 51:51

daughter pre Nexium, I assume was Allison Mac.

Stuart Pankin 51:58

Well, when I knew her, she was a sweetie.

Jeff Dwoskin 52:01

I loved her on Smallville. She was I used to Yeah, she was great as well. Yeah. Yeah, I was a big fan of hers, actually. Yeah.

Stuart Pankin 52:08

Very sweet. Wonderful little girl. Bob Hall was in that movie.

Jeff Dwoskin 52:11

Oh, yeah. Okay, yeah. I didn't have time to write down everybody.

Unknown Speaker 52:17

What did you do last night? To sleep too early.

Jeff Dwoskin 52:20

I got. So tell me about working with Mel Brooks. life stinks. Oh, Mel Brooks. My favorite lines from The Simpsons. Mel Brooks is Jewish.

Stuart Pankin 52:34

Yeah, that's an interesting story. Again, how much time do we have three minutes. It was interesting. It's just too long. A story too tight. Okay. I just ran into Rudy Rudy DeLuca. At a party. I got to that party through very wonderful, you know, wonderful circumstances, which we'll talk about the next time we we talked and he said, Hey, you want to come in and audition for what we would know breakfast? Yes. So I did. And I spent I don't think I even auditioned I think I just went into middle. I think he just gave the jobs to people who wanted to like Jeff Tambor, and a lot of the other actors. But yeah, he was it was an incredibly difficult time because one it was the hot one of the hottest spells in Los Angeles, too. He was the writer, the producer, the star, and he had a lot on his plate, but he was always, you know, generous and and pleasant to work with. As matter of fact, because of that, he put me in another movie that Brooks film did called the vagrant, which probably not many people know about it was a very interesting movie with Bill Paxton, the late Bill Paxton. And then I worked with Mel again in in Mad About You. He was a guest star. I was a guest star in a kingdom by the sea. Very cool. He was he was great to me. He was a little rough on his friends. I mean, he he hires his friends, and he knows him very well. So he you know, he slips with them occasionally. But he was terrific.

Jeff Dwoskin 53:51

That's awesome. And then I'm looking at the time I put it at the end of time running out of time running out

Stuart Pankin 53:58

the whole day for you. I'm here to three o'clock

Jeff Dwoskin 54:01

if you want if you got i We haven't even touched on man and can do what? Oh, my God was doing. Which by the way, there is a 10 Minute cut of mannequin to where it's just you just do your scenes on replay. Yeah, I will email you that as well. Yeah, I was I did you like me. You're great. You had that you had a lot of funny lines. When I smelled dust. That was a good one. I was. I was really fun. Yeah,

Stuart Pankin 54:26

I wrote a lot of that stuff. I just gotta tell you brag a little bit. I wrote a lot of that stuff. Because the director steward raffle. You know, let me so that, you know, I appreciate that. We'll talk about that later. It was a lot of fun because it was back in Philadelphia. That's my hometown. To be back.

Jeff Dwoskin 54:41

So well. We'll have to pick it up another time. But this was great. I can't think of any time. It's such

Stuart Pankin 54:47

a pleasure. Tony was so prepared and pleasant to talk to. Oh, well.

Jeff Dwoskin 54:51

Thank you. prepared and pleasant.

Stuart Pankin 54:55

The two piece that you need to do is a pocket. I've had some I've had some good luck. So I've had some real stinkers so you're not one of those Kinkos or anti stinko

Jeff Dwoskin 55:06

keep talking to you. They're all the quotes now on my day, not stinko

Stuart Pankin 55:10

marketing this anti stinker. You can use that.

Jeff Dwoskin 55:14

Thank you. Thank you so much. This was a pleasure.

Stuart Pankin 55:18

Pleasure. Pleasure. Anytime.

Jeff Dwoskin 55:21

All right. How amazing was Stewart paying? Can I promise you classic, I delivered? Classic. There you go. Boom. Stuart Pankin. definitely head over to YouTube and search out those not necessarily the news episodes. If you've never seen him, you're in for a treat. If you haven't seen him in a while you're in for a treat. Also dinosaurs is on Disney. Plus, check out Stuart Pankin as Earl Sinclair, boom, that whole series is streaming or right now. Well, with the interview over it can only mean one thing. That's right. It's time for another trending hashtag from the family of hashtags at hashtag Roundup, download the free always free hashtag roundup app at the Google Play Store iTunes App Store receive a notification tweet along with us. And one day one of your tweets may show up on a future episode of Classic conversations, fame and fortune awaits you. Follow us also on Twitter at hashtag roundup and play along every day. All right, today's hashtag is hashtag dyno competition shows from the sneaky Fridays hashtag game hosted by sneaky environment and Evelyn Wilder hashtag dyno competition shows the ultimate mash up of dinosaurs and competition television shows in thing it existed. It exists here it is, of course inspired by Stuart Pankin's amazing show dinosaurs All right, let's read some hashtag dyno competition show tweets. The world is lava. America's next Triceratops model that price is by let's make a deal of force or that screechy voice the weakness evolutionary link you are the weakest evolutionary link. These are all examples of hashtag dyno competition shows fair raptor with your host Joe Rogan who wants to marry a fossil dancing with the shooting stars. So you think you need hands at the T Rex classic project runaway and our final ashtag dyno competition shows wait The Bachelor as far as Oh, there you go. Hashtag dyno competition shows all retweeted at Jeff Dwoskin show on Twitter, retweet them, show him some love. Got your own. Tweet it with hashtag dyno competition shows hashtag tag us at Jeff Dwoskin show. I'll show you some Twitter love. All right, well, with the hashtag over and the interview over it can only mean one thing. We've come to the end of another episode of Classic conversations. Can't believe it. Episode 142 has come to an end, I want to thank my special guests, Stewart penken. I want to thank my special calling guests. Some are more. And of course, I want to thank all of you for coming back week after week. I can't thank you enough. It means the world to me. And I'll see you next time.

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