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#111 Crossing the Streams is Made For Love (Bonus Ep15)

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Crossing the Streams originated on this podcast in episodes 8 and 15. My idea was to record friends freely discussing TV shows (and movies) they binge on one of the many, many streaming services we all subscribe to.

Jeff Dwoskin, Howard Rosner, Ron Lippitt, Bob Philips, and Sal Demilio are your co-hosts and we’re joined weekly by special guests. The assignment? We each come to the show with a TV binge suggestion. It might be a series, movie, or documentary but we’ll give you the scoop so you can decide for yourself whether or not to dive in.

In this bonus episode we discuss a few great binge suggestions:

  • Made for Love (from live ep 20)
  • The Con (from live ep 20)
  • Greater (from live ep 25)

Each segment is pulled from a show and shared as is in all its LIVE goodness.

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CTS Announcer 0:01

Looking for your next TV show or movie to binge? Well buckle up, grab the remote and settle into your couch for this special edition of crossing the streams. We're here to help you tune in and get the most out of those 50 monthly streaming channels you're currently paying for. So without any further ado, here's your host of crossing the streams. Jeff Dwoskin

Jeff Dwoskin 0:30

All right, everyone. It's Jeff Dwoskin. Your host How are you hope all as well. Thanks for joining us for another bonus episode here on the live from Detroit the Jeff Dwoskin show fee. This of course, the crossing the streams bonus episode where we bring you curated segments from some of the best episodes of crossing the streams, our weekly live show we do every Wednesday at 9:30pm. Eastern time. You're welcome to join us live on Facebook, Twitter or YouTube. Find over 60 hours of crossing the streams episodes on YouTube right now just search out the Jeff Dwoskin show, dive into any episode. But if you don't have time for that you've come to the right place because we're sending segments of that show. Right cheers right now, as you're sitting there. That's what's happening. This is what you're experiencing right now. What are you about to experience? You're about to experience the answer to the universal question. What should I be watching on TV? What should I be watching next? What are some of the greatest TV binges out there and movies that I should be drinking in on my streaming channels? Well this episode is about to put a dent into that for you. We got segments from Episode 2620 and 25 greater made for love and the con all coming at you in just a few minutes but we're gonna start with made for love. fan favorite. Howard Rosner is going to take us through that one take it away Roz

Howard Rosner 1:55

found this totally by accident. I was looking for something new and I just happened to flip past it. It's it was a Cinemax show eight episodes from earlier this year. That's streaming on HBO Max. I love this show. It's a black comedy a definitely dark comedy stars Kristin miliardi who has been in a couple of things recently she was in Palm Springs with Andy Samberg. I thought she was great in that she played you know DiCaprio, his first wife on Wolf of Wall Street just for context. And then Billy Magnussen plays her husband in the movie, he is blond haired guy that you've seen it a bunch of stuff. He's one of the mortgage guys Ron in The Big Short that we love that when they talk to him about strippers and he goes, yes, that guy. But he was he was in game night, who was the friend that had all the hot ditzy girlfriends that he brought. And then it's got Ray Romano and Ray Romano keeps doing roles that he's excellent. He's so far beyond his show now, and he's great in this show. And then the other one is that I love his dance back at all, who is kind of if you know, he was Veep, he was the guy that always had all the turn of the last couple of seasons. Every metaphor was a ridiculously sexual metaphor, playing something. He's hysterical. And he's great. So the gist of the show is they are a married couple his flat his name Billy Magnussen same as Byron Gogle. Basically, Google, he is the guy that invented the technology that runs the entire world. And his latest invention is a product that he's called made for love, which is designed to be chips implanted in the brain of married couples that allow you to share one brain, essentially. And she discovers based on his announcement that they are going to be user one she has not left the hog which is their home and Technology Center, the headquarters for Google she has not left there for 10 years since they were married and she is not happy in the marriage and now she finds out that she's going to be user one so in the first couple of minutes actually opens with her escaping the hub and going on the run essentially and it's it goes from there it is a hysterical shell it's like I said it's definitely got some dark humor has some definite biting commentary about where we are today. It's really unique it was eight episodes super fast watch I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this it's so much more fun when it's a show out of nowhere that you had no expectation and knew nothing about which I didn't I just happen to like the two of them. Ray Romano is characters great the twist with Ray Romano is character you see in the first couple of minutes is awesome and it keeps going throughout the series it and then the the twist for the season finale is is amazing. It's just really, really a great commentary on relationships. Certainly, my wife jumped in started watching with me and allowed us to make some good inside jokes about each other. I enjoyed it immensely. I don't know if anybody

Ron Lippitt 5:06

you said it's a dark comedy. Yeah,

Howard Rosner 5:09

it definitely is. There's some parts of it where you're like, Oh, we shit. You know, and there's some serious parts of it too, but not seriously deep, serious, but serious, thought provoking, serious, like his character's clearly got some issues deep seated to want to do this. And, and again, it's got some things you know, like he has his reasons for thinking that this is a good product that people would want. There's some interesting things you know, like it removes the possibility of anybody ever, couples ever having a need to or cheating on each other, you wouldn't be able to do that you'd always be speaking the truth not even speaking, you'd be knowing the truth as a couple your community, you know, people, couples having the need to communicate better, no better way to communicate better than when you're sharing the same thought. That's the That's his concept. And then of course, there's the opposite side of that, which is Yeah, you don't need to do that, you know, you should be able to communicate better, but by communicating better, there's a couple of recurring gags in the show that are pretty funny. being put out to pasture is a DAG that recurs in the show that is both metaphorical and real. Dan back it all character keeps getting injured in funny ways that that add to the show. Zack, you said you saw it. Yep. Well, yeah,

Zack Wiseman 6:25

that was really cool. It's like it's one of the most interesting ideas for like a black mirror episode that gets a full season of very, very clever idea for show very well done aggressively entertaining. I like to show a lot I think it was very, very cool. It's something that I will I when it came was like, I wish I thought of that. It's very, very cool. I had a great time with it. Like you said, I didn't finish yet. I don't know how it ends yet.

Howard Rosner 6:51

But you agree Ray Romano is great in this phenomenal Yeah, phenomenal. He's really really good. It's not slapstick Ray Romano. It's, you know, different out there. Ray Romano it's just really good. I was really happy I find it I really I'm sure they will give it a second season. I don't know if if it's been greenlit yet but and she like i said i i saw her in Palm Springs and thought she was fantastic. And now after seeing her in this, she's really talented. And I think she'll you'll see her in a lot bigger roles in the future. So yeah, it says, like I said, it's a super easy watch. I watched it in you know, 24 hours, you know, simple half hour comedy, and only eight episodes for the first season. Go and watch me you're calling

Jeff Dwoskin 7:31

it a dark comedy, but it sounds more like a horror film.

Howard Rosner 7:38

perhaps discuss that with your wife.

Jeff Dwoskin 7:42

I mean, I think the the flaw and how you described it in terms of the premises that it was the guy's idea that you'd think that would be a woman's idea. You know, you ever you walk into the bathroom and then you're like, Oh, I mean, you turn around and shut close the toilet seat. You know? I mean, like that. That would make sense. Like a woman would want the man to snap in everything like he walked me the cat. You're walking out of the kitchen and you go back close the cover. Yeah, okay.

Howard Rosner 8:09

He's just working on

Ron Lippitt 8:13

what just happened?

Jeff Dwoskin 8:13

Yeah. Just I'm just saying like, it would make more sense for a woman to come up with this idea like, why would the guy want the girl to know and he's

Howard Rosner 8:30

it's it's not really about that this kind of just this character clearly, you kind of only in the later episodes get a little bit of a picture of where he's from his upbringing merely

Ron Lippitt 8:44

to back you up that's a that's a line from wall the old movie Wall Street or he goes watch break up with her. She asked me the wrong question. What was that? What

Jeff Dwoskin 8:53

do you think all right, that was made for love. I watched that too after Rosner recommend it. Very fun show. Definitely check that one out who's ready for some inspiration that only sounds Amelio can provide Well you're in luck because sales about to talk to us all about greater take it away sale. Now we're talking about greater with sales and millio sounds good. I'm Sally.

Sal Demilio 9:22

First of all, Jeff, thank you for inviting medians on the show because it seems like the show is funnier better than when you know these pathetic actors come on. So thank you for your wise fella. First of all, Jeff, yeah, you got the sponsors yet? I mean, sure Mac pistachios, so if you can get them to write a check. I appreciate that.

Jeff Dwoskin 9:42

I've been trying I've been trying to but ice my water hasn't returned my calls.

Sal Demilio 9:46

Okay. Anyway, Hey, guys, I'm going to bring this show down. And that's because this is kind of like an inspirational movie, kind of a tragic movie. emotional, spiritual and religious, but all kind of meshed into one it's a story about Brandon girls work. And he's a famous Arkansas offensive lineman and before 1999 There had never been a walk on for a football program to ever become an All American except Brandon burls. Where so that's what the story is about. It's about him just overcoming basically the big guys kind of like rule. It's almost like Rudy. If you liked the movie, Rudy, it's very similar to that. Except Rudy kind of had a lot more success nationally, but

Ron Lippitt 10:26

except this story sounds like it's true. I'm sorry, please.

Sal Demilio 10:29

Yeah, no, you're right. You're right. That was very about the movie was actual there's an actual person that did. There was a Rudy like, I think they embellish that story to make it I don't think they did this with here. This kid was just basically this his football career was just basically he was a big kid. He was fat. Unlike Rudy Rudy was small and never really played. This kid was big, and but just sloppy and slow. And he just dedicated himself became a pretty good high school football player wanted to go to Arkansas really, really bad. He was a decent high school football player got a lot of offers to smaller schools, he did not want to go to those other schools he'd rather walk on in Arkansas, his mother had to get an extra job to pay for that year of schooling. And he had to prove himself to get a scholarship and that one year, which he does, he ends up working as ass off even harder, becomes an All American offensive lineman for the University of Arkansas and leads them to one of their best years they've ever had their senior year gets drafted by the Indianapolis Colts, and the 63rd pick overall, just a tremendous kid, a tremendous story. The story of the movie is not all football, it's about his relationship with his brother, his older brother who's played by an Hilmi Chrono. I know a lot of my friends here on the podcast, like the Marvel movies, I think he's done a few of those. And he was in band of brothers, but he's kind of like the main actor of the star. I think he also executive producers it this came out in 2016. But it's very, very inspirational. I really enjoyed it. You know, get the get the handkerchiefs out. You might you might cry a little bit along the way, because it's right. I think we've all been kind of given the plots away today. But this is a true story. So you're no going in. He gets he tragically gets killed in a car accident.

Ron Lippitt 12:14

Jesus? No, that's no

Sal Demilio 12:17

11 days after he signs with the Indianapolis Colts, or after he gets drafted by the Annapolis code. So he doesn't even sign a contract, which was kind of weird. There's a scene in the movie where this one is kind of like a farmer. And he's kind of like Sean McDonnell Marty's his name, Alter Ego kind of tell him just bad things about why his brother died and all this stuff. And one of the things he says is in the movie, and I had to look it up, and it's true, Boy, don't you wish you would have signed that contract before he died that his mother would have been taken care of because he didn't sign the contract. So the mother never got to die. But I want to look that up because I think or say her Saint Bobby threw his mother some money, man, I just got to believe I've actually met the owner of the Annapolis Colts. And I think that guy took care of the mother. But anyway, that's another story. Yeah, I hate to hate to break the news here. But it starts out with his funeral in the beginning of the movie, kind of goes back and forth through his high school days, his college days, meet his maintenance, all of his teammates, who kind of pick on him at first, and then he just overcomes that by just playing hard, really, really good inspirational story. Again, it's probably not as good as Rudy just because of what Ron said earlier. I think they just embellish that story made it seem so greater than what he really was where this story just kind of it's more kind of religious and spiritual so maybe doesn't have the bells and whistles that movie did. And that's why it didn't do as well at the box office. It was cost $9 million to make it only made $2 million at the box office. I don't know what kind of money Netflix gave it. But anyway, I highly recommend it if you're just looking for just a really good movie about a guy that overcame a lot to unfortunately didn't get to see him block for NFL running backs for many years in the NFL would have been fun to watch but a really good story I think everybody should want. Interesting.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:06

Wait, so you're telling me that Rudy is not a true story? It is.

Sal Demilio 14:10

But Ron, tell him how many lies are worn that movie.

Ron Lippitt 14:14

It's a friggin cavalcade of lies that. Like, here's here's what's true. He walked onto the Notre Dame football team. That is true. Everything else in that story is a outright fucking lie.

Howard Rosner 14:29

On my watch, my wife my wife sat on Wikipedia reading me all the fake plot lines and the main character of the Charles Dugan character was totally made up and she's doing it as I'm watching the last 10 minutes of the movie. I'm like a hoot. Yeah. So can

Ron Lippitt 14:49

I just tell you guys, I'm sorry, Sally. I know this wasn't about Rudy. But now you got me started about 10 years ago, I saw Rudy my company. My company hired that guy to be a motivational speaker at our national conference and it was all I could freakin do sitting on my hands, not one to say how many frickin lies did they tell their room? Your story is making a lot of sense there, buddy leaving out a few details there, Rudy.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:12

You know, like, Ron Ron. He didn't write the screenplay. He just Yeah.

Sal Demilio 15:21

I'm sure I'm sure the producers up greater would love the money that that Rudy brought in. So

Howard Rosner 15:27

he's not the one that made John Fabbro say who's the wild man now? That didn't happen. Probably not that. Whoever really did

Jeff Dwoskin 15:39

you guys are ruining everything for me. Sorry.

Ron Lippitt 15:43

Good movie, though. Sally. Your recommendations? Really good. Yeah.

Jeff Dwoskin 15:50

All right, so you get greater and get a fall X Jose on Rudy did not know a lot of that. Alright. Next, our guest, Sean Justin is going to take us through the con, a documentary on the origin and impact of the 2008 financial crisis. It's a fascinating review. Take it away, Sean. All right. Let's move on to our next show. The con from our guest, Sean, Sean, take it away, my friend.

Sean Dustin 16:19

All right. Well, this is the con, as you said, and they're how I came to know this five part or a five part True Crime documentary series about the 2008 financial crisis. Everything that The Big Short, didn't tell you, which is the whistleblowers, the people that were trying to keep this thing from happening, the people that were calling out, you know, the corruption way before it even got to a point that it did, probably around 2007, mid 2006, when they started to see what was actually happening on the horizon is a great flick. I was able to screen it the show. So it was about six hours worth of watching. And I ended up watching it three times. Before I was able to interview Patrick Lavelle, who's the one who kind of narrates it. The reason why he made this movie was he was caught up in in this situation himself, and he lost his home. And he got foreclosed on. And he was a producer, everything kind of dried up in his field of work his line of work at the time, he'd done a couple of reality TV series, and he wanted to find out the answer. So it took him about 10 years, almost of research, trying to get the stories together. And it really the first episode is free on the khan.tv. And you can go and watch it and they centered it around a woman a woman named Addy Polk, who lives in Ohio, it was about you know, she was a 90 year old woman and her husband had they bought their house and he worked to pay it off. And she had gotten a loan. So to say, I mean, they they still think that it was a fraudulent loan all around. But what these banks would do is they would come into these areas of you know, lower, I don't know, they were kind of rundown areas, or the people own their homes. But there was dilapidation there was you know, all kinds of things that were cosmetically wrong with it. And they would go door to door and sell them line of credit loans from the bank to their homes. Right. It's all you can do all this stuff. And you can do these things. And so anyways, what ended up happening with her and I and I'll tell you this, because it's really interesting. She got eviction notices, and they were you know, bugging her saying that, hey, your your house was going to be foreclosed on, you're not paying your your mortgage, and she had nowhere to go. And so when the sheriff made the final attempt, when at the day was for her to move, get out, she shot herself in the chest. And this is a true story. And so that's where it starts at. And then it starts outlining all the different things that started happening, and all the pieces and all the players and it's really an amazing story and an amazing documentary, it really paints the picture to where the layman like, like myself who does know knows nothing about tranches, or you know, any of those types of financial instruments. And you know, I mean, I, I own I own debt, that's all I own, you know, I'm a part of the the cog too. And so it really paints the picture and shows how corruption works in the financial world. And so like I said, I was able to interview Patrick Lavelle is a great interviewer, myself, and I teamed up with a ripple effect podcast. And the host is Ricky, Ricky Rivendell. From there, and we had a good interview. I reached out later to Eric Vaughn, which is another producer of that and Cindy Castro de Russo, who was another lower producer for that and had them on the show. And the cool thing about this is like connecting with all these different people, I was able to connect with another woman who did three years in federal prison and this was the back end of what was happening? Right. And so not only were they shutting people up at the top levels, you know, it's a bureaucracy, you can only go as high as they'll let you go. The you move the complaint up the ladder, up the ladder up the ladder, well, at the top, it was getting stuffed out. And so for the people that were on the bottom, and she was in this thing, she's a PhD. So her name is actually Dr. Carmen Johnson. She was calling out these foreclosure illegal foreclosures in Baltimore, Maryland. And so like she was keeping homes, like she saved over 800 homeowners from illegal foreclosure in before they locked her up for it, right. And so what ended up happening is the somebody high up said, hey, you need to stop talking about this and stop calling them illegal foreclosures. And she said, No, I'm not going to. And eventually, they tied her into a conspiracy and put her away for three years, she went to the Supreme Court, she's going back to the Supreme Court again. But anyways, long story short, is there's going to be a sequel to the con, and she'll probably have a part in it. And I hooked her up with Patrick, because this was completely what they're dealing with, right. And so it's really cool how pieces start to put themselves together when you when you are doing things like this, and it's really cool. And the con is a great a great flick. Like I said, first episodes absolutely free, go check it out at the con.tv. And, you know, it's 10 bucks to rent, and you get it for like 15 days, and it's definitely worth the money. In my opinion. Like I said, I watched it three times. The first time I watched the full six hours and didn't didn't move. And then I watched it two more times, just because it was so compelling. Yeah, Howard and I

Ron Lippitt 21:43

were super into The Big Short, I used to joke about that when I traveled every weekend on airplanes, The Big Short was always my delta go to movie just because I was so fascinated by the storyline of The Big Short, I want to see what one of the things, you know, just an ancillary part of this story was I was listening to New York Times podcast just just a couple days ago that and they did a thing about about Bitcoin. And I didn't realize this as an ancillary story to The Big Short what that Bitcoin was created because of the insolvency of the mortgage market. That it was created as a a more stable form of currency to invest in while the markets melted down. And so I thought that was a super interesting thing that something so volatile and crazy in our world right now, like cryptocurrency would come out of the very problem that was an insolvency that was also an unstable, just like we never learned our lesson out of this

Howard Rosner 22:43

movie on the subject is, is what's an HBO movie, too big to fail? Yeah, I saw that William Hertz. And amongst others, that's a great movie on the subject as well, and then really paints a picture, like, even worse than The Big Short of like, how close to just collapse? Everything was,

Sean Dustin 23:02

yeah, those ones, you know, like The Big Short focus mainly on shorting the market, right in shorting that whole thing this it, it talks a little bit about that, but it talks more about how it was able to happen from the mortgage companies to the the people that do the what are the appraisal companies, the title companies, and so it was all a big racket, the whole thing? Yeah, it was all tied together. So they were, you know, Wall Street was wanting these private, they were mortgage backed securities so they can so they can play on the market, right. And so they were, they were packaging up this stuff that were horrible. And they were being incentivized by money, you know, all the way down the line. So if you give this mortgage or this rate, you'll get more money. So like everybody was going for the, you know, the balloon payment ones, and all those other ones. And then they were throwing them into the securities markets. And the really the difficult part of it, and they have some union people in there is they started selling them to these unions, and they were involved in it. And so they started buying and investing in it. And so that's how it really screwed a lot of union and blue collar people into having to work another 10 years when they were supposed to retire, you know, because they lost all of their half of their pension. And it's just, you know, you don't really hear a whole lot about that part of it. We mean, I thought The Big Short was a great movie. I loved it. And until I really saw how they the mechanism by which they operate. It's really, I mean, it's really disturbing when you think about it.

Jeff Dwoskin 24:38

Yep. All right, the con. Thank you, Shawn. Justin, makes you want to run out and invest in Bitcoin. Hmm. All right. Well, we have come to the end of another episode jam pack. This one was the con made for love and greater. You got your homework. Go grab your favorite places. On the couch, grab your remote cross your own streams, and we'll see you next time.

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