#86 Dee Wallace was Born to Phone ET While Howling at Cujo

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Alright, Joe, thank you so much for that amazing introduction. You get the show going each and every week and this week was no exception. Welcome, everybody, to Episode 86 of live from Detroit, the Jeff Dwoskin show. As always, I am your host, Jeff Dwoskin. Great to have you back for another out of this world episode. How out of this world is this episode? You're gonna be phoning home. You're gonna pick up the phone and phone and everyone you know, after you listen to my interview with Dee Wallace. That's right, Dee Wallace. She played the mom in ET. You loved her in the howling, the Hills Have Eyes, Cujo, and hundreds of other things. Dee also is the author of the book Born and she's written many books and we're going to talk about her brand new one Born. It's amazing primer to help manifest everything you want in your life. And we tie it into her whole career and how she's managed to be so successful. You're gonna love it, you're gonna learn a lot. You're gonna be inspired, can't wait for you to hear it. And that's coming up in just a few minutes.

If you got a pencil jot down episode 24 is a quick reminder that's the episode was Suze Lanier. She was Dee's co-star in Wes Cravens: The Hills Have Eyes. So if you want to hear even more stories from the set of that movie, check out episode 24 With Suze Lanier also while you have your favorite podcast app open listening to live from Detroit, the Jeff Dwoskin show. If you haven't definitely check out episode 84 with Nicholas Hammond 1977s, The Amazing Spider Man, we talk all about that amazing live action show where he started as the very first Peter Parker and Spider Man combination. We talked about his time and the sound of music and the original Lord of the Flies movie, such an amazing interview.

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And with that, please enjoy my amazing conversation with the wonderful and out of this world. Dee Wallace. Enjoy.

Alright, everyone, I'm excited to introduce my next guest, actress, author, healer, you've loved her and at cuja the howling Hills Have Eyes and she is the author of many books, including the very newly released book Born available now we're going to discuss it all welcome to the show. Dee Wallace. Hello.

Dee Wallace 6:57

I'm so glad to be here.

Jeff Dwoskin 6:58

So glad to have you here. This is exciting. Hey, I think my original admiration for you comes from et I understand you're from Kansas City. I read an interesting tidbit, you went to the same school probably not the same time maybe as Ed Asner, but you guys are both from Kansas City. You guys, Paul Rudd. How many other famous people are from there,

Dee Wallace 7:20

Kirstie Alley's from Kansas? I'm not sure if she's from Kansas City. There's a few others. Yeah, you know we Midwesterners, there's just something about us that comes off real and genuine that people like

Jeff Dwoskin 7:33

so they so how did Kansas City Girl make it to the big city, New York

Dee Wallace 7:39

by being really naive. And by pretty much following everything that I write about. In born, I had never been out of Kansas in my life. And I graduated from the University of Kansas with a degree in education taught a year of high school and thought, If I don't get out of here and follow my dream I never going to get out of here. In the library where I taught high school, we got the New York Times and in the New York Times was an article that how Prince was looking for an unknown to star in what was to become A Little Night Music. So I wrote him this very cheesy letter about just thinking a girl from Kansas and and I can even choose your picture laying on my bed by my brother's friend who was the photographer for the school newspaper, and I send them off to our prince and three weeks later, how Prince, his secretary calls and said Mr. Prince got your letter and he would like to fly you to New York to audition. Okay, so not a real blonde but raised very, to be very truthful. And I said, Oh, well, when does Mr. Prince need me there? And she gave me the date. And I said, Well, wow, I've got a ticket to fly in that day. What time does he need me five o'clock? Oh, I get in at two. You know, he went and paid me first class. The whole shebang put me up somewhere. But so the day I arrived in New York, I said every belonging that I had put it in a taxi said here can you take it to this interest please? And everything got there. And I went to Rockefeller Center and audition for help print. And I got down to the last five girls in the singing and the dancing. I'm sorry, and the dancing and the acting. And then his assistants that are I will Mr. Prince with my dear you sing now and I went, Oh, I didn't know we had to sing and she looked at me and she said well, dear, it isn't musical. So My first day in New York, I sang happy birthday for Hal Prince. But that's when I mean, I just I knew I wanted to be a professional actress. I was excited and loved the idea. I thought, you know, if I don't make it all come back and teach school. So off I went, and the universe just took me everywhere I needed to go. Every I mean, it's crazy. And that's kind of how my life goes

Jeff Dwoskin 10:31

T quick question. Which do you think was scarier, auditioning for Mr. Prince, or putting all your stuff blindly into that taxi?

Dee Wallace 10:39

Oh, I am worried about my stuff at all. I didn't. I mean, everybody looks at me like I'm crazy. Now going, my God, you put everything you have in a taxi in New York, and it got never occurred to me. But that's what I mean to fear. Fear sets you up for creating the very things you don't want.

Jeff Dwoskin 10:59

I walked right into that one, didn't I?

Dee Wallace 11:01

Yeah, you did.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:06

All right. No, that's good. That's good. Yeah, you're right. You have to overcome those fears. We have to get rid of those preconceived notions that we have in life to keep moving forward. Well, you

Dee Wallace 11:16

know why? Because whatever you fear you keep your focus on, and religion and spirituality and brain science will all tell you whatever you focus on, you create, I believe that you only want to focus on what you want, guys. That is that is true law of attraction. Yeah. And a lot of people don't understand law of attraction.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:38

Well, you're here to school that we're gonna everyone is gonna be in the church of D.

Dee Wallace 11:46

God, no pressure there.

Jeff Dwoskin 11:50

Awesome. So oh, you know, I'm not going in order or anything like this. But I talked to I had on my podcast Suze linear. Yeah, I know, you know? Yeah, actually, it was probably about a year ago that I talked to her your co star from the Hills Have Eyes. Oh my god, I probably went 1000 times into the DM to go to your DM on Twitter. It was gonna be to try and get you on the show. And I think I chickened out. But eventually I did. So the universe brought us together eventually. This was like your second movie, right that you did the Hills Have Eyes. Yeah, my

Dee Wallace 12:20

first movie, which kind of sums up my life. My first movie was a religious film. And then I went right into a horror film. Oh, today I spent half my life doing mostly horror films, and the other half of my life teaching people how to heal themselves from fear. Somehow it works out really well for me.

Jeff Dwoskin 12:42

Yeah, it definitely looks that way. Is there? Do you just end up in horror films or you just happen to love doing horror films, you just scream queen or just

Dee Wallace 12:51

I didn't look for horror films. What I love is to play I have a big emotional life. And I love to use that. It just happens that the horror genre is one of the best genres to allow you to play a lot of emotional peaks and valleys. So I was really good at it. And I was really believable at it. And so they just kept coming toward me. But you know, I've got a a beautiful little film on hallmark for Christmas, right now called every time a bell rings. So I'm happy that I can do everything.

Jeff Dwoskin 13:30

Do you see that as one of the keys to your success? I mean, you've got hundreds of acting credits, like just to not be stuck in a genre because a lot of times people will get stuck in a genre, they'll get seen only one way you seem to have overcome that.

Dee Wallace 13:44

Yeah, I pretty much do everything. If there was one thing I'm stuck in, it would probably be mothers. You know, I play a lot of mothers, but I play every kind of conceivable mother there is even mothers.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:04

That's what was it like working with Wes Craven,

Dee Wallace 14:09

you know, it was interesting. West is very much like the college professor that he started out to be very quiet. I remember him as somewhat introverted, knew exactly what he wanted. But just very different from the Steven Spielberg kind of presence on the set.

Jeff Dwoskin 14:30

Budgets were different too. So I imagine that that played into some of the way things played out. Well, yes,

Dee Wallace 14:35

but people express a presence. And that comes just from who they are and how they're comfortable dealing in life. And Wes was more comfortable, quietly being kind of in the background telling everybody when he needed Gotcha. And it worked amazingly well for a lot of his pitchers. So Oh,

Jeff Dwoskin 14:55

yeah, he's a master. Absolutely. So just to be like into the horror genre. Debbie in a West Craven movie right off the bat, especially the Hills Have Eyes. Such a classic, nice Kickstart to the career.

Dee Wallace 15:08

Yeah, well, it wasn't a classic when we did it, you know? I mean, we did it. It was everybody pretty much everybody's first film. And it was like, holy shit. I've got a lead in the film. Oh, I think we all probably got paid scale, maybe choosing got paid more. We had to drive, literally to the Mojave Desert every day. And finally, my husband said, you know, this is too dangerous. So I just spent most of my salary staying in a motel six, because it really was just dangerous to drive back and forth that much as tired as we were. And we had one trailer for all the actors, and the toilet broke. I mean, it was let's put on a

Jeff Dwoskin 15:56

show. Okay. Oh, my my.

Dee Wallace 15:59

I spent a lot of time in my car.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:02

That's fine. I didn't notice you die in this movie. So you die in a bunch of films, but you didn't and then don't get to be in the sequels. Do you regret the howling? You die? You didn't like 50 Howling sequels?

Dee Wallace 16:13

I don't regret not being in any of the Howling sequels.

Jeff Dwoskin 16:17

No, no, I didn't. I didn't think I was I was just joking. But the hills as the Hills Have Eyes, there's a scene to me like, the cannibal killers is supposed to be the scary part. But to me, like the real scary part is you dealing with that giant spider on your stuff? Oh, you know, I mean, the movie could have been called the hills of giant spiders crawling on your stuff. And that would have been that would have been scary enough.

Dee Wallace 16:41

You know? And they told me Oh, no, no, no, it's fine. I can't hurt you. Dee. And then after I did the scene, the guy came up to me and said, you know, they can't hurt you. But we milk them. I tell you what, we milk them. We milk their poison out. So they if they bite you, they can't hurt you. I went good. You know now. So much stuff happened. You know, we had we had people learning on this ad. I was supposed to go do this same. My makeup wasn't ready. The lovely woman playing my mother was ready. And so they took her out, put a squib on her she had to get

Jeff Dwoskin 17:22

shot in the chest, right trying to save you and the baby. It is squib

Dee Wallace 17:27

on her and they didn't put it on tightly enough. And when it went off during the scene, it damaged her breath was so you know, people I mean stuff like this happens on just I mean, she was fine. She was fine. I want everybody to know she was fine. But stuff like this happens on sets frequently. Because it's just the nature of you know, when you're working with with dogs, I've got to say I never felt safer on any setup I've been on then I was with Cujo. Those dogs were altering to go after toys. And we actually had to tie their tails down because they were wagging him so much. They were so well trained. I still put my hand through the glass when I wasn't supposed to. And I was so beaten and bruised and exhausted at the end of that film. hardest thing I've ever done that.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:27

Well, I don't doubt that it was the hardest thing you've ever done. It's it's all there. Right on the screen. Thank you that was that was powerful. I mean you crushed that. I mean like amazing. I was I was thinking that movie could also been called stuck in a Pinto.

Dee Wallace 18:42

Yeah, if I never see a Pinto again in my life it'll be too soon.

Jeff Dwoskin 18:47

I think I heard you talking that it was actually cold when you were filming this?

Dee Wallace 18:51

Yeah, it was it was Northern California in November in December and so by I looked over Danny one time and his lips were like quivering in you know, we had no clothes on and they had to spray as damn before every scene and so I asked Louis tager wonderful director and I said Louis is there any way you can put a heater in the front of the car for us so they did they punched a hole yet another hole in the Pinto. Yeah, and we finished with a heater in the front of the car which helped considerably what

Jeff Dwoskin 19:26

the reason that I happen to mention it is when watching Cujo like I was getting maybe you know having a kid myself and all that but like it's I was literally there while he like what the heat and did the hymns that dehydrating and it just it I've never seen a scene play. It's so hot before and then so when you when I heard you say oh, it's freezing. It was so cold. I was like I kidding me because like I was like getting nervous. I'm like, Oh, this kid's gonna really get out. I was just like, we did our job and definitely that's what I'm saying. I was just like, oh This is like one of those things where you find that you're like, Oh, no. A lot of these are iconic Cujo is like one of those movies too. Anytime a dog barks you know, someone will go even before seeing the movie. I would be easy Cujo.

Dee Wallace 20:11

Yeah. It's become a part of our culture. Absolutely. I can't tell you how many little chihuahuas come by my tables that that conventions man, Cujo.

Jeff Dwoskin 20:23

Oh, Cho. Oh, yeah, man. That's funny. While I was doing some research after watching it, I was like, it was just interesting that they I think they have like five main dogs. And then each one was trained to do something specific. It's a fascinating the whole dog training thing and how they they do that? Yeah,

Dee Wallace 20:40

one was a jumper. One was a Barker. One was a Lunger. But those dogs were trained within an inch of their lives. Let me tell you. Carl Miller, the trainer even slept in the barn with a dogs. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were much better taken care of than I was all you animal lovers out there and just just know that because I made sure I said, Dan, you know what an animal lover I am to our producer Dan Blatt. I said, Can you promise me that these dogs are absolutely de Caro Miller. You know, we have a vet on the set at all times. Not a doctor, but God.

Jeff Dwoskin 21:28

So I dug up some trivia. There was a backup dog suit that can be put on a Labrador retriever, but was never used.

Dee Wallace 21:39

That's true. We had two Labradors there in case the St. Bernard's wouldn't or couldn't do something, but it was never used. We had a stunt man in a dog suit, which I have a hysterical picture of that on my table. We were here and Lewis and I are doing a kick line together with him in the dog suit. He really didn't do a lot of shots in the movie. The big attack scene in the car is me. With a step man and the step woman with a real dog all intercut brilliant editing, I might add, and the scene where he rams himself into the car, the dog keeps adding this step man did parts of that. And then we had a head on a spring that we released so that you it felt like he was hitting it really hard. But other than that the real dogs did most of the work.

Jeff Dwoskin 22:41

They did a great job. They did. Y'all did a great job. I was. I was okay. And then I read that. Well, Stephen King doesn't even remember writing the book. There was a I guess it was during one of his face that he believes the movie and your performance top notch. I compare that to him not liking Stanley Kubrick in The Shining, but you you want over Stephen King. So that's pretty cool.

Dee Wallace 23:07

Yeah, he he very graciously mentions on his site that I should have gotten an Oscar for that or been up for an Oscar report. I can't say that I disagree with him. But you know, those kind of films. They never they just never do.

Jeff Dwoskin 23:25

No, but which is a shame because I will also put on my website one day that you deserved an Oscar nomination for that as well. Yeah, you did you cry. You killed that. Thank you. I wonder if watching it now is apparent. I even appreciated it even more.

Dee Wallace 23:41

Oh, it'll be a whole different movie. If you watch it. Now. I hear that all the time. You know, it scared the hell out of me when I was young. But now that I'm a parent, I just viscerally feel it in an entirely different way. How was your kid?

Jeff Dwoskin 23:58

My kids are 22 and 1922

Dee Wallace 24:04

and 19.

Jeff Dwoskin 24:05

Can you put that on your website?

Dee Wallace 24:08

Like I can kid yourself.

Jeff Dwoskin 24:12

I appreciate that. I also read that the Tad your son actually dies in the book so that was a good that's a I liked that they changed that for the movie.

Dee Wallace 24:21

Oh yeah. Steven actually called after he saw that the screening and said Thank God, you didn't kill the kid at the end. He never got more hate mail for anything. Then when he killed tad at the end of that book, and Dan Blatt asked me and he said, Are you kidding? We can't put people through what we're putting them through for two hours half the people aren't gonna have even read the book. No, you can't kill the kid at the end. And everybody was sort of in agreement and so we didn't

Jeff Dwoskin 24:53

i Yeah, because the movies emotionally exhausting if that. I think he just would, everyone would walk away dead. inside, but now it works. This is one of three films that you did with Christopher stone, your husband.

Dee Wallace 25:07

Yeah, we were engaged. When we did the Halloween together, I did not get him the part, Dan calls and said, you know, we've got a pretty good cast, but we can't find somebody to play your husband. And I said, Well, what are you looking for? And he explained the part and I'm sitting there going, Holy hell, I'm engaged to this guy, and he's an actor. But I knew if I said that, that would kill it right there. So I, you know, I worked on chips with this guy, Christopher Smith, or stone or some s name. So they went out and found him. He went in and auditioned and got the part. And the next day, Dan calls me, well, he calls and I answered, he goes, Dee, and I said, Hey, Dan, he said, I, I'm sorry, I must have called the wrong number. You know, that guy. You suggested we really liked him. And we hired him. And I was calling to talk to him. I went, No, you've got the right number. And there was this long pause, and then I hear shit. He thought we were gonna gang up on him, you know, but I said, Look, you only have to get one trailer. Look at it that way. That's Bentley. They were very happy that Chris was there. Because those were back in the days when I really, I was really out there doing those parts. Chris was somebody who could bring me back pretty easily.

Jeff Dwoskin 26:33

That's great. There was a recently your daughter had? Yes, it was at a tic tac video. Yeah, she got to see the howling and you and Christopher and the howling together. And

Dee Wallace 26:45

yeah, it was the release of the 4k version, which is absolutely stunning. If anybody wants to pick it up. It's it's just a beautiful print.

Jeff Dwoskin 26:57

I when I rewatched it I didn't watch a 4k version. But that would have been nice. But that's cool. I thought that was so nice. That your daughter's video was so sweet. It was so nice. Yeah, she's

Dee Wallace 27:07

pretty good at those things.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:08

I did some research on this. It says at the end when you turn into the werewolf you wanted your own unique look. Is that true? Well, I

Dee Wallace 27:16

wouldn't put it that way. I was shooting Cujo. And for some reason I had it in my contract that my character would never appear as a werewolf. I don't know I guess back then. It was important. For some reason, Joe Dante called me and said D everybody all the test audiences one. I said I don't care, Joe. I don't care. But can you make her a little vulnerables and she's fought so hard. So they came up with his Bambi werewolf it's all an animatronic. That's Joe's sense of humor for you. He just and Joe you know, paid for all the junk clips and the howling the studio when Annie up and he paid for everything.

Jeff Dwoskin 27:59

Really? That's interest. I read this led to him getting gremlins. This was Yeah, it's cool. When you hear stories that people are so dedicated are committed to a project when they put their own money out.

Dee Wallace 28:11

Well, you bad. He just knew that it was going to raise the film up and make it more of an a film. And he was right.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:19

Oh, yeah, absolutely. It was funny. When I was watching. I was like, I get that you were trying to expose the werewolves on TV without saying Oh, you're about to get killed on TV. That's gonna do irreparable damage to everybody watching to watch his own shot down.

Dee Wallace 28:37

You're just a softie. That's what I think.

Jeff Dwoskin 28:42

That was that was what was going through my head. I owe that to the trauma of everyone seeing not the werewolf but you being killed. Just went through my head. I just said that was that was that. And then after this et Yeah, go figure. How did what was the audition process like for at getting that role? I

Dee Wallace 28:59

did not audition for 80? Of course. Yeah.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:02

I didn't mean No, it's all even say your audition. When you walk. Let me rephrase when you walked into the movie studio, how are your sound? No.

Dee Wallace 29:10

Usually I would have had to audition for it. But I had auditioned about a year earlier for a film called used cars that Steven did that I did not get. But Steven works very, very far in the future. So he was already working on et and when he saw me, he saw the quality he wanted to marry. And when et came about he just called and offered me the role of marry again. You see the universe just taking me where I'm supposed to be. That's unheard of in in Hollywood at the beginning of a career.

Jeff Dwoskin 29:47

Especially I'd imagine a Spielberg movie. That's awesome though. He probably crushed the other audition maybe he just was the rolled in mash up and that was the path t t not to that movie, right?

Dee Wallace 29:57

I have no idea no recollection of reading for that other movie except I can see the room. It was just Steven and I in some kind of empty room in an office building. And that's all I remember from auditioning for us guys.

Jeff Dwoskin 30:14

What is it like to be in like your ET? At the that's like one of the biggest movies ever? Like, I don't mean even dollars wise. So I mean, just just in terms of cultural psyche, pop culture, everything. I mean, it's just it's just one of the biggest important movies ever. It's our Wizard

Dee Wallace 30:31

of Oz. For sure. Yes, yes, I am. The thing I'm happiest about most is how many people's lives it has and continues to touch and change.

Jeff Dwoskin 30:46

I believe it. I believe I remember going to see T. And it was like weird if you didn't cry. But like, like people would just talk about like, they're just bawling. watching that movie. It was just, it was just such a beautiful and emotional story. Really amazing. I met Henry Thomas once.

Dee Wallace 31:03

Oh, yeah. sweet kid. Sweet guys, sweet man. Now, you know, I don't think again, it's by accident that I ended up doing et. Because here I am doing healing work now all about keeping your heart open and loving yourself in order to create the life you want. And that's really what the movies about.

Jeff Dwoskin 31:26

Yeah, you're right.

Dee Wallace 31:28

I know kind of weird, huh?

Jeff Dwoskin 31:30

everything connects, let's talk about your book, let's just use that as the perfect way to kind of talk about born, do you want to kind of give everyone a quick summation

Dee Wallace 31:40

born is literally a primer, an easy read primer about the simple steps that you need to have in place to manifest what you want in your life. It's written really like I taught like the girl next door. It's simple, it's easy to understand, it explains why religion and spirituality and brain science are all saying the same thing kind of brings it all together in a real simple way. I lead by the miraculous life, things just come to me instead of me, struggling, like I used to, like I was taught to, like most of us are taught to when you know, and you're very clear about what you want, and you commit to it, and you feel a lot of love and joy around it, it'll come to you. Why do

Jeff Dwoskin 32:35

you think it's so common that people are just brought up to feel like they have to struggle or the hill is so high, thank

Dee Wallace 32:41

it Sins of the Father's passed down over and over and over and over and over and over, that becomes a belief system. And whatever you believe you're going to create, it says in the good book, as you believe it is delivered to you brain sciences, whatever you focus on. That's what you create in your life. So many of us are given some good beliefs, and some limiting fearful beliefs. And it's up to us to rewrite whatever beliefs don't fit the life that we want to create. For example, one of the things that I was taught, I come from a very poor family. And I wouldn't say terribly religious, but we went to church every Sunday. And it was a big part of my growing up. So I was taught, you know, they're the rich people. We're the good people. God loves the humble people. God loves the meek, and the poor people cut did 30 years later, and I'm starting any tea and making all this money. And I went, oh my god, I'm one of them. And God doesn't love me. And everybody's judging me. And that was really the beginning of a lot of this work. Because I went, I don't believe that. I believe that I have a choice about how much money I make, and what I do with it, and the consciousness that directs that. So the more money that I bring in, and the more success I bring in to myself, the more my cup runneth over, and I have stuff to share with everybody else. Do you know that how we see ourselves in the world and our self esteem around that is locked into our brains by eight years old?

Jeff Dwoskin 34:36

I did not know that. Yeah,

Dee Wallace 34:38

if you keep hitting the same wall around money or relationships or success or health, you keep hitting the same walls, go back to your childhood, and write down everything that you were told verbally, and then write down everything that was modeled to you that you watched, and you will see See where your belief systems are, that are creating the walls that are holding you back and you can change him, you have a choice to change them.

Jeff Dwoskin 35:09

What's the first step to changing?

Dee Wallace 35:11

The first step is choosing to, okay? Okay, the first step of any creation is choice, anything, you have to know what you want. And you have to be willing to do what you need to do to create what you want. Let's just take that belief for an exam I, what I wanted to believe was that God, and I want to be clear with everybody, whatever your term for God is, is fine. The force, Buddha, whatever it is, the energy doesn't care what you call it, I wanted to know that I was at choice about how my consciousness created myself. And as soon as I made that decision, all this information kept, came running into me, the I Am Discourses in brain science, and it was crazy. I felt like I went back to college for a while I went, are you serious? I have to frickin study ions and proton standard, Stan, all of you know my channel, I'm a channel and anybody can be a channel, you just have to trust yourself and allow the information in my channel just kept opening up new possibilities and new information and new expansion for me to look at.

Jeff Dwoskin 36:41

Can you explain what a channel is?

Dee Wallace 36:43

Yeah, a channel is anybody that opens themselves to receive all the highest information that's out there. So all the information is hanging out right above your head. But like the Good Book says, You have to ask for it asking you receive. Most people don't understand, though, that the original Hebrew meaning of ask his claim or demand, so this will be delivered to me. It's a powerful statement. Not at oh gosh, if I if I'm worthy statement, so little kids channel all the time. That's why they have imaginary friends. They're getting information, like one of my good friends adopted this little baby. And when he was about three or four years old, they came to a traffic stop. And he pointed to a big semi across the street to add money to that truck. That's how I died the last time with my other money. Wow, well, you're connected to energy. Anytime you hold an intention to connect, I do privates for people from all over the world on the phone, I don't have to be with them. I don't have to look at them. I opened myself up to receiving the highest information for them. In other words, a channel is when you get out of the way and allow the information to come in.

Jeff Dwoskin 38:07

Is this spirits or? No? It's just that they're understanding the energy. Okay.

Dee Wallace 38:12

It's like Einstein said, you know, most of his enormous breakthroughs didn't come through scientific work. It came through his imagination. That's how I act. I didn't know I was channeling when I acted. But that's what I do. I get out of the way and let the character tell me what to do.

Jeff Dwoskin 38:31

That's fascinating. That's really cool. And anyone can become a channel, you just have to open yourself up to the

Dee Wallace 38:36

Absolutely. And then you have to trust yourself. And that's an ongoing. So when I started out, I would work with friends for a long time. And then I had an acting studio. What happened was people would get up to do a scene and I would, I would start downloading information about where their blocks were. And their lives started to change and their acting started to change. And then their parents wanted to work with me and then their friends. And now I've got clients all over the world.

Jeff Dwoskin 39:09

That's pretty cool. And if someone wants to work with you, they just go to your website. IamDeewallace.com. Yep,

Dee Wallace 39:17

IamDeewallace.com. And they can set up a private channeling experience with me, the best deal on the website is to sign up for a year but you probably don't want to do that until you at least try one or two and see how it works for you. My work is a lot about teaching everybody to be their own power.

Jeff Dwoskin 39:38

Do you have an example of somebody that you worked with that was able to make a substantial change in their lives?

Dee Wallace 39:45

Oh my god,

Jeff Dwoskin 39:46

I'm sure you got a million of them.

Dee Wallace 39:47

Well, you've read born I you know, there's so many testimonials in there about how people have literally changed the dynamics in an office increase their money. He handled a health situation, a lot of the students that studied with me have gone into some kind of the healing arts in channeling.

Jeff Dwoskin 40:10

So once you accept it and channel it for yourself, it gives you the ability to focus and help others.

Dee Wallace 40:16

Absolutely. Again, you've got to get you out of the way. You don't want to get your end answer. You want to get the highest answer. Whether you agree with it or not.

Jeff Dwoskin 40:27

I hear you wake up in the middle of the night worrying about stuff.

Dee Wallace 40:31

Okay, so let me tell you what my channel says about worry. Worrying is the biggest sin against energy that you can do. Because worrying about stuff puts all your focus on what you don't want,

Jeff Dwoskin 40:46

right? That makes sense. And that's also putting your body through an emotional state. Because your body really can't tell the difference. If you're worrying about something if I'm worried you're gonna, something's gonna happen to you. I'm creating that scenario, my body I'm reacting no matter what, whether something happens to you or not. I still put myself through that trauma. why

Dee Wallace 41:04

that's so important is because we're electrical beings, they measure our heart through an electro cardiogram, our brains are an electroencephalogram. So every thought feeling we have has an electrical charge, which goes through our body and then shoots out into the universe, which Oh, just happens to be electromagnetic. When we shoot out positive or negatives, the universe looks for where it can plug into that charge. So if you're sending out positives, then the universe plugs in and sends you back positives. If you're plugging in negative, the universe sends you back negative, and you're creating it all you're just not aware of it

Jeff Dwoskin 41:56

makes perfect sense. I believe it. I believe it. I've gone to some like Brian Tracy, I've heard him talk on the law of attraction and stuff like that. And where you have you think about stuff. And this, this may sound silly, but if you are driving to the mall, I've done this and you're like you like I'm going to find a parking spot up close. If you that you're more likely to find one, then if you put out that there's never going to be a spot. I'm going to end up parking so far away. Yeah,

Dee Wallace 42:21

I would correct one thing that you did, okay, I wouldn't force it. The universe doesn't react it force. I'm going to get me a spot. You know, I would love to park a friend and find a spot. You know, universe is find me as but

Jeff Dwoskin 42:38

I like that. You right? That's less pressure on the universe. And then it's true, though. But I mean, maybe sometimes I do it right sometimes to do wrong, but works. I mean, what do you think about manifests? I believe in that. I don't do enough of it. I'm not saying I have it mastered. I enjoyed your book. you've outlined really nice process in your book. Thank you, and how to kind of go through everything. It's short and easy to read, which I love. Yeah, it's easy to digest. And I believe in it. It's just hard to sometimes do it.

Dee Wallace 43:11

Okay. All right, stop right there. So you just directed the energy of you to make it hard.

Jeff Dwoskin 43:19

I am failing at it. Right.

Dee Wallace 43:21

So whether you believe it yet or not, you want to claim it. This stuff is easy. Creation is easy. Going to New York and being a successful actress. That's exciting and fun. Right? Everybody said, Oh my god, it's so dangerous. Are you kidding? You really think you've got a shot? You know, you don't know any better. And I just went, you know, I'm going to go anyway, I'm gonna have fun. I'm gonna see. I just like I met a guy in an audition. He took me to a party. At the end of the party, three people came up and said, Can you come by the office on Monday? We think we'd like to work with you. And I went with Sure. What do you do? Well, they were the biggest commercial agents in New York. That's awesome. I ended up doing over 200 commercials, wow. Which is a pretty good livelihood while you're, instead of waiting tables, trying to be

Jeff Dwoskin 44:14

an actor. That's amazing. That's it. So how do you how do you balance in pros and cons when trying to make a decision? Or do you only focus on the pros?

Dee Wallace 44:23

I only focus on the pros. I go to my heart. See, most advisors are taught to go to our minds to make a decision. Minds are made to question and doubt. So you're not going to get what you truly want. If you go to your mind, if you go to your heart, you'll know you'll know you want to go to New York, you'll know that you want to do this movie, right? Right. Sometimes my agent goes oh my god, do you really want to do this movie for this money? And I'll say, I got to do this part. And then something magical will happen, and they'll get more money or it'll become a little film that becomes a cult classic. You have to follow your own knowing. And we're taught not to, we're taught to doubt ourselves. You can't open your channel when you're doubting yourself.

Jeff Dwoskin 45:17

You are correct. And I appreciate you calling me out along the way here. It's it's No, I mean, I mean it because it just it helps. Well, because it's like you don't even realize you're doing it. Like when you said, No, that's wrong. I'm like what I was trying, I thought I was being right. And

Dee Wallace 45:35

I know. That's why all my work is called conscious creation. Because you you do you have to remain conscious to retraining of your brain is what it is, you know, anybody that says, well, here, listen to this blank CD and your whole life will change. I'm not a big believer in that. Because I know that we're given freewill. And we have to learn to exercise the power of that freewill on this point,

Jeff Dwoskin 46:05

right now I agree with you, you go to a seminar or something like that it gets you going for like a day a week. Thank you. You've outlined in your book here a plan, you can live with something that hold yourself accountable to something you have to work at every day, which I've learned, oh, we're have fun playing really only in this

Dee Wallace 46:25

right now. I like to have that perspective better. It's a lot more fun playing with creation than working at it.

Jeff Dwoskin 46:34

I couldn't agree more. I could not agree more.

Dee Wallace 46:37

When the pandemic hit the channel said, you know, just get up every day and say, What can I create?

Jeff Dwoskin 46:43

i It's amazing how much stuff was created. During that time. I am

Dee Wallace 46:48

believable. I had one of the best years I've ever had. And stuff came from places that I couldn't have possibly imagined.

Jeff Dwoskin 47:02

I had Cujo in the background. I got

Dee Wallace 47:04

up one day and I said, alright, what can I create today? And the first thing I heard was write the book.

Jeff Dwoskin 47:11

This podcast was created during COVID. So yeah, I mean, you're right. Always create look for the love that love guide you. Yeah, turn on your heart light as Neil Diamond right, baby?

Dee Wallace 47:23

G.

Jeff Dwoskin 47:24

I can't thank you enough for hanging out with me. This was so cool. Where can people keep up with you on the web and social and all that

Dee Wallace 47:31

Instagram is at the DeeWallace. Twitter is at D underscore Wallace and Facebook is DeeWallace. So there you go. And my website is I am Deewallace.com. There's so much stuff on there, guys. There's a lot of free stuff to get you started. If you're interested in researching this, there's a great past life regression that Dolores Cannon did when I toured with her. Dolores Cannon is probably the premier past life regression is at the time. There's just a lot of free stuff. If you want to go on and see what I'm about. Go play your choice.

Jeff Dwoskin 48:13

Awesome. I'll put links to all that in the show notes too. So no one has to memorize every version of de Wallace that you created.

Dee Wallace 48:20

Yeah, I know.

Jeff Dwoskin 48:23

It's all good. It's all good. Thank you so much. This was really such a pleasure. It really was. It was a blast for me. I loved hearing all about this. It's amazing. Thank you for everything.

Dee Wallace 48:34

You're welcome, Jeff. You've got a really really incredibly beautiful energy. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you do. It's really sweet, pure energy. I bet your kids are just beautiful line day.

Jeff Dwoskin 48:49

They are Yeah, my wife says this because of her.

Dee Wallace 48:53

Well, like attracts like. So. There you go, go be happy and blessings and have a great, fabulous holiday season. Thank you

Jeff Dwoskin 49:03

Dee, You too. Hey. All right. How amazing was Dee Wallace. It was such an honor and pleasure to speak with Dee love talking about Cujo. And the howling and ET and the Hills Have Eyes, so many great stories. And definitely check out Dee's book Born. I've read it myself. It's really great. I really encourage you to pick it up. It's an easy read, especially if you need some guidance and motivation in your life in some direction that helps you really kind of focus. It's really great. And I'll put links to the book and everything in the show notes. So you can check that out.

While with the interview over I guess that can only mean one thing. It's time for another trending hashtag where in the world of hashtag around. Download the free hashtag roundup app on Google or Apple Play stores. It's free, always free play along and one day one of your tweets may show up on an episode of Live from Detroit, the Jeff Dwoskin show, fame and fortune awaits you. As this week's hashtag comes from the unlikely game, a weekly Game On hashtag roundup hashtag #UnlikelySignsFromTheUniverse universe is always talking to us. As we learned in today's episode, we just have to learn to take it in and accept it. But you can imagine there may be some unlikely signs we have to look out for as well. And that's what our friends on Twitter did, as they explored hashtag unlikely signs from the universe. I'm going to share a few of my favorites, tweet one yourself, tag us @JeffDwoskinShow, I'll respond. I can't wait to see it. As always, all these tweeters that I'm about to read their tweets will be retweeted at Jeff Dwoskin show on Twitter shown some love it. Let's have a good time and explore some #UnlikelySignsFromTheUniverse, you're suddenly hit by a horseshoe. That's clearly a sign that you should be betting on horses, or perhaps that the horse thought you were a fly. The sidewalk suddenly ends. Well if you're a rabbit. That might mean you made a wrong turn at Albuquerque on ZocDoc. You bump into a helpful employee at Walmart. That's the universe telling you you're not a Walmart, you have no idea where you're actually are. The river runs red was Gaz Pacho. That means you're hungry. That's the universe and your stomach. That's what that growling sound is. A spaceship lands on Planet Fitness. That could either mean that they have the best fitness in the universe, or that somebody from another planet wants to tell you you're kind of wasting your time. It could mean anything. You just gotta gotta let that one play out. Here's another one. Netflix quits asking if you're still watching. That's a clear indicator that the universe and Netflix have both given up on you. You stumble upon sausage and gravy flavored Oreos, that is the universe seeing if you will eat anything. You get everything on your list to Santa that is universe telling you it's finally okay for you to brag that your mama always said you are the best boy around. And final #UnlikelySignsFromTheUniverse tweet that I will be sharing with you today. The alphabet cereal smells out instructions. That's clearly the universe and or your wife telling you to clean the basement. Oh, those are some fantastic hashtag unlikely signs from the universe. Definitely go tweet your own. And of course get the hashtag roundup app play along with us. We play every day all day. It's so much fun. I'll look for you out there.

Well, with the hashtag done. I can only mean one thing. Episode 86 has come to a close can you believe it? Another episode has come and gone. But you're in luck. There'll be a bonus episode Thursday. And there's 85 other episodes to listen to. If you got some catching up to do. I do want to thank my special guest Dee Wallace for joining me today. Had a great time talking to her definitely check out her book Born. And of course I want to thank all of you for coming back week after week. It means the world to me, and I'll see you next time.

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